UCLA football

[Stonewall]

He led the nation in interceptions thrown if I remember correctly.

[AppStFan1]

I’m sure that you will be sure to bring that up when all of these college coaches and agents call you for your expert opinion.

It is a fact that he had a 38.7 QBR when we played Clemson. If he goes to Wake Forest he will need to do much better than that. Not sure why you throw insults.

Yes because the QBR is only a result of direct QB play and no other factors play into it. Carry on dude.

Of course there are other factors but I was just pointing out that if he goes to Wake Forest he would need to play a lot better in order to help them win.

You speak to his dad. Do you know what his plans are after this season? Is he wanting to coach or go into another field completely? If he just wants to coach or do something in football then as long as he is playing he is fine but if he has another field he wants to get in then he should be collecting as much money as possible.

Joey wants to be a firefighter. He took some training in it a couple years ago and he loves it.

Was his NIL deal iron clad or was there a clause that if he does not start he does not make near the same money? I figured there has to be a reason to give up all that money to go play for a lot less.

[AppStFan1]

Wake would make sense. His girlfriend just transferred to UNCG.

It would for that reason but I thought Joey was trying to get closer to the west coast to make it easier on his family? He would actually be getting farther away from home with that move. Joey had a 38.7 QBR when he last played against an ACC opponent.

I’m sure that you will be sure to bring that up when all of these college coaches and agents call you for your expert opinion.

It is a fact that he had a 38.7 QBR when we played Clemson. If he goes to Wake Forest he will need to do much better than that. Not sure why you throw insults.

Pulling one game out of a career when our OL was over matched, WRs could not get spacing and our RBs did not gain much, if any until the 10th string for Clemson was in the game....good grief...

Obviously it is just one game but my only point was that he probably has a bad taste in his mouth from his last ACC opponent and will need to do better if he goes to the ACC.

[AppStFan1]

I’m sure that you will be sure to bring that up when all of these college coaches and agents call you for your expert opinion.

It is a fact that he had a 38.7 QBR when we played Clemson. If he goes to Wake Forest he will need to do much better than that. Not sure why you throw insults.

Are you truly surprised.

A little. We have talked in PM and gotten along.

You make blanket statements based on data compiled in a vacuum and paint a broad brush as if it’s the constant. One bad game does not identify one’s abilities. You are the one that claims to have the pulse on all things college football with “sources”. You made the statement that Joey was not having a good camp. I haven’t seen that statement made by anyone. In fact, I’ve seen the contrary. If you can show me different by a reputable source then I will listen.

It was just one game and I did not say he could not do better but he led the nation in interceptions for a reason. If he did that in the Sun Belt I would think it is fair to guess he could struggle going up in competition.

There was a media outlet early on in spring camp who said that Joey was struggling with turnovers and then boosters online were saying the same and worried about how he would look.

I know that Nakos from On3 reported he had a good camp when announcing he entered the portal but that was likely as a favor to the NIL agent who was leaking details for him to report. Agents leak all the time and expect some good spin on a situation.

Common sense tells me if he was having a good camp that UCLA would not have done this. They felt the need to upgrade and the only logical reason is they were not happy with how Joey was looking.

Did you see the quotes from Sunseri in USA Today? Nothing positive about his play in camp or skill set. This is the quote: "I think Joey's a guy that can be able to understand information,” Sunseri, who coached against Aguilar while at James Madison, said earlier this month. “I think he's a guy that can be really pushed. ... I think he's been able to take that coaching. He's learning each and every day. He's being able to apply. It's a lot of learning for him.”

Here is link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 187398007/

[Bigdaddyg1]

It would for that reason but I thought Joey was trying to get closer to the west coast to make it easier on his family? He would actually be getting farther away from home with that move. Joey had a 38.7 QBR when he last played against an ACC opponent.

I’m sure that you will be sure to bring that up when all of these college coaches and agents call you for your expert opinion.

It is a fact that he had a 38.7 QBR when we played Clemson. If he goes to Wake Forest he will need to do much better than that. Not sure why you throw insults.

Pulling one game out of a career when our OL was over matched, WRs could not get spacing and our RBs did not gain much, if any until the 10th string for Clemson was in the game....good grief...

Obviously it is just one game but my only point was that he probably has a bad taste in his mouth from his last ACC opponent and will need to do better if he goes to the ACC.

In my opinion that’s an absolutely terrible game to reference in regards to how he played the position. He played zero plays on defense and we all saw a total and complete mismatch. There wasn’t a damn thing he could have done. Personally I blame our coaches for trotting him back out there in the 4th quarter. It was completely pointless

[AppStFan1]

I’m sure that you will be sure to bring that up when all of these college coaches and agents call you for your expert opinion.

It is a fact that he had a 38.7 QBR when we played Clemson. If he goes to Wake Forest he will need to do much better than that. Not sure why you throw insults.

Pulling one game out of a career when our OL was over matched, WRs could not get spacing and our RBs did not gain much, if any until the 10th string for Clemson was in the game....good grief...

Obviously it is just one game but my only point was that he probably has a bad taste in his mouth from his last ACC opponent and will need to do better if he goes to the ACC.

In my opinion that’s an absolutely terrible game to reference in regards to how he played the position. He played zero plays on defense and we all saw a total and complete mismatch. There wasn’t a damn thing he could have done. Personally I blame our coaches for trotting him back out there in the 4th quarter. It was completely pointless

I get that but you can't blame the defense for his QBR and he had chances to make a good throw and just did not do it. I know he was under a good bit of pressure but even when he had a real chance he did not show much good. I only referenced that because it was against ACC competition. If you want to look at the whole year he led the nation in picks and completed just 55% of his passes. Those are bad numbers as well.

[704App]

I assume Jose is his dad, here is his post:

"Thank you UCLA for everything you have done.
There's no way to explain the Bs that happen behind the scenes but here is straight facts Joey ain't scared of no competition
Politics politics politics
He has to look out what's best for him."

I just don't see him collecting 1.2M to play close to home anywhere else so not sure how. Why would he take less money to play further from home just to start?

Because money isn't his motivating factor. If it was, we would have only had him for 1 season.

People who know him said he wanted to play closer to home for a P4 and while Wake Forest is a P4 it is not closer to home. What is the biggest factor for him? Just playing P4?

That I don't know. And honestly, nobody but him likely knows the true power rankings of his decision making. Is being closer to home more important than money to him? I'd say yes considering he stayed with us another year when he got offered a decent chunk, that if he took two (now 3) years of, he would have been set for life; regardless if he made it to the next level.

Now, it seems maybe playing is more important to him. Remember, he had multiple options when he received his surprise year, so those priorities might have shifted. But, I am confident in saying money isn't ever going to be the reason for him to make his decision(s).

[AppSt94]

He led the nation in interceptions thrown if I remember correctly.

True. There were a lot of good QBs right behind him with 12. Some considered as next level options.

[AppStFan1]

I assume Jose is his dad, here is his post:

"Thank you UCLA for everything you have done.
There's no way to explain the Bs that happen behind the scenes but here is straight facts Joey ain't scared of no competition
Politics politics politics
He has to look out what's best for him."

I just don't see him collecting 1.2M to play close to home anywhere else so not sure how. Why would he take less money to play further from home just to start?

Because money isn't his motivating factor. If it was, we would have only had him for 1 season.

People who know him said he wanted to play closer to home for a P4 and while Wake Forest is a P4 it is not closer to home. What is the biggest factor for him? Just playing P4?

That I don't know. And honestly, nobody but him likely knows the true power rankings of his decision making. Is being closer to home more important than money to him? I'd say yes considering he stayed with us another year when he got offered a decent chunk, that if he took two (now 3) years of, he would have been set for life; regardless if he made it to the next level.

Now, it seems maybe playing is more important to him. Remember, he had multiple options when he received his surprise year, so those priorities might have shifted. But, I am confident in saying money isn't ever going to be the reason for him to make his decision(s).

If playing closer to home is more important than the money then playing for Wake Forest for less makes no sense. Because of what you said I wonder why we don't hear that he has interest from schools like San Jose State, San Diego State, UC Davis, Sac State, UNLV, Nevada, Fresno State, etc type schools.

[AppStFan1]

He led the nation in interceptions thrown if I remember correctly.

True. There were a lot of good QBs right behind him with 12. Some considered as next level options.

https://www.foxsports.com/college-footb ... &groupId=2

Who was right behind him that you would consider a next level lock? Carson Beck at 8 is closest next level option. Haven't seen a reputable website list anyone in the bottom 5 with Joey as a likely draft pick.

[biggie]

Joey to UT according to ESPN.

[AppSt94]

I just don't see him collecting 1.2M to play close to home anywhere else so not sure how. Why would he take less money to play further from home just to start?

Because money isn't his motivating factor. If it was, we would have only had him for 1 season.

People who know him said he wanted to play closer to home for a P4 and while Wake Forest is a P4 it is not closer to home. What is the biggest factor for him? Just playing P4?

That I don't know. And honestly, nobody but him likely knows the true power rankings of his decision making. Is being closer to home more important than money to him? I'd say yes considering he stayed with us another year when he got offered a decent chunk, that if he took two (now 3) years of, he would have been set for life; regardless if he made it to the next level.

Now, it seems maybe playing is more important to him. Remember, he had multiple options when he received his surprise year, so those priorities might have shifted. But, I am confident in saying money isn't ever going to be the reason for him to make his decision(s).

If playing closer to home is more important than the money then playing for Wake Forest for less makes no sense. Because of what you said I wonder why we don't hear that he has interest from schools like San Jose State, San Diego State, UC Davis, Sac State, UNLV, Nevada, Fresno State, etc type schools.

He wanted to go closer to home. That was his plan. He found a program that made that plan a reality. But you know what, life doesn’t always work out as one plans and you have to adjust. Maybe those schools don’t need a QB. Not everything is a conspiracy theory and sometimes they just happen.

[BambooRdApp]

If tenn is true, may not be a bad landing spot...RS Freshman and True Freshman as the main competitors...

[311neers]

This is good for App State publicity/brand wise. 1. We will get to see him play in our time zone each Saturday for those that want to watch.
If he’s the starter, our University will be mentioned with graphics and highlights every Saturday in the fall on TV. People will see our brand multiple times per game.
Maybe this is what we need, a QB in the SEC that came from App. Come play at App for a year or two and then go make the big bucks and have millions watch you.

[311neers]

Smart move Joey. No State income tax!

[704App]

I just don't see him collecting 1.2M to play close to home anywhere else so not sure how. Why would he take less money to play further from home just to start?

Because money isn't his motivating factor. If it was, we would have only had him for 1 season.

People who know him said he wanted to play closer to home for a P4 and while Wake Forest is a P4 it is not closer to home. What is the biggest factor for him? Just playing P4?

That I don't know. And honestly, nobody but him likely knows the true power rankings of his decision making. Is being closer to home more important than money to him? I'd say yes considering he stayed with us another year when he got offered a decent chunk, that if he took two (now 3) years of, he would have been set for life; regardless if he made it to the next level.

Now, it seems maybe playing is more important to him. Remember, he had multiple options when he received his surprise year, so those priorities might have shifted. But, I am confident in saying money isn't ever going to be the reason for him to make his decision(s).

If playing closer to home is more important than the money then playing for Wake Forest for less makes no sense. Because of what you said I wonder why we don't hear that he has interest from schools like San Jose State, San Diego State, UC Davis, Sac State, UNLV, Nevada, Fresno State, etc type schools.

It was important to him once he got his surprise eligibility because he was planning on going home anyway.

Now, that doesn't seem like it's an option. My guess is playing is #1, #location is #2, #3 is situation/opportunity, and #4 is money. This is just a guess as I have no idea what's going through his head. None of us do.

Happy for him and his second third shot!

[AppStFan1]

Because money isn't his motivating factor. If it was, we would have only had him for 1 season.

People who know him said he wanted to play closer to home for a P4 and while Wake Forest is a P4 it is not closer to home. What is the biggest factor for him? Just playing P4?

That I don't know. And honestly, nobody but him likely knows the true power rankings of his decision making. Is being closer to home more important than money to him? I'd say yes considering he stayed with us another year when he got offered a decent chunk, that if he took two (now 3) years of, he would have been set for life; regardless if he made it to the next level.

Now, it seems maybe playing is more important to him. Remember, he had multiple options when he received his surprise year, so those priorities might have shifted. But, I am confident in saying money isn't ever going to be the reason for him to make his decision(s).

If playing closer to home is more important than the money then playing for Wake Forest for less makes no sense. Because of what you said I wonder why we don't hear that he has interest from schools like San Jose State, San Diego State, UC Davis, Sac State, UNLV, Nevada, Fresno State, etc type schools.

He wanted to go closer to home. That was his plan. He found a program that made that plan a reality. But you know what, life doesn’t always work out as one plans and you have to adjust. Maybe those schools don’t need a QB. Not everything is a conspiracy theory and sometimes they just happen.

He would be an upgrade at several of those schools but you are right that things happen. Based on Tennessee roster they only have 2 QBs on it so that looks to be a good spot. I would say he should win that job easy since both are freshmen but they are 4-star recruits so they could be tough to beat. One was there last year and has a small advantage on knowing the playbook but not by much. I'll be curious to hear how much he is getting from them.

[AppStFan1]

Smart move Joey. No State income tax!

A lot of players overlook this type stuff. Even if he makes 200-300k less at Tennessee he is likely to walk away with more money.

[AppinVA]

I’d imagine this doesn’t have much to do about money any more, rather shoving it up the one who shoved it up you. For both Joey and Tennessee.

[appdaze]

All this speculation is entertaining. I know which P he will move 4.

UT gets him closer to that P he is playing 4 as well as a nice paycheck to get his post college life started. Good luck to him. I'll ha e to hear it from the inlaws if he screws up.

https://www.wvlt.tv/2025/04/21/ucla-qua ... port-says/