Satt notified his QB bet on his own games

[t4pizza]

These articles claim that Cincinnati was notified last August that their QB, Sorsby, had placed bets on his former team (Indiana) while he was a player. Admittedly, he was not on the travel squad for IU and did not participate in any games he bet on, but nonetheless, UC was told and one would have to assume that Satt was informed and played him anyways. The pressure to win is great, sometimes it leads folks to do things you would never expect. Now, Sorsby has a 6 million dollar NIL deal with Texas Tech and in the middle of a lawsuit trying to maintain eligibility. His lawyers (clearly very smart) are arguing a mental health disorder. One that the NCAA and member institutions are inextricably tied to the gambling industry. It will be an interesting order, the Judge is a double degree graduate from Texas Tech. Stay tuned as this won't be the last big-time gambling scandal. Somewhere Art Schlichter is bemoaning his loss of a potential hall of fame career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 829187007/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 160220007/

[AppStFan1]

These articles claim that Cincinnati was notified last August that their QB, Sorsby, had placed bets on his former team (Indiana) while he was a player. Admittedly, he was not on the travel squad for IU and did not participate in any games he bet on, but nonetheless, UC was told and one would have to assume that Satt was informed and played him anyways. The pressure to win is great, sometimes it leads folks to do things you would never expect. Now, Sorsby has a 6 million dollar NIL deal with Texas Tech and in the middle of a lawsuit trying to maintain eligibility. His lawyers (clearly very smart) are arguing a mental health disorder. One that the NCAA and member institutions are inextricably tied to the gambling industry. It will be an interesting order, the Judge is a double degree graduate from Texas Tech. Stay tuned as this won't be the last big-time gambling scandal. Somewhere Art Schlichter is bemoaning his loss of a potential hall of fame career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 829187007/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 160220007/

What is interesting about this is that Sorsby started the year off playing solid and was bad later in the year. I wonder if he was gambling on his own games at Cincy and possibly helped shaved points or even through some games to pay off debts? You have to think that and many more questions are being investigated.

If he is ruled ineligible, does a NFL team take him in the Supplemental Draft? That will be interesting to see considering he not only looked over-hyped by media but they know he is a gambling addict.

[Bootsy]

These articles claim that Cincinnati was notified last August that their QB, Sorsby, had placed bets on his former team (Indiana) while he was a player. Admittedly, he was not on the travel squad for IU and did not participate in any games he bet on, but nonetheless, UC was told and one would have to assume that Satt was informed and played him anyways. The pressure to win is great, sometimes it leads folks to do things you would never expect. Now, Sorsby has a 6 million dollar NIL deal with Texas Tech and in the middle of a lawsuit trying to maintain eligibility. His lawyers (clearly very smart) are arguing a mental health disorder. One that the NCAA and member institutions are inextricably tied to the gambling industry. It will be an interesting order, the Judge is a double degree graduate from Texas Tech. Stay tuned as this won't be the last big-time gambling scandal. Somewhere Art Schlichter is bemoaning his loss of a potential hall of fame career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 829187007/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 160220007/

What is interesting about this is that Sorsby started the year off playing solid and was bad later in the year. I wonder if he was gambling on his own games at Cincy and possibly helped shaved points or even through some games to pay off debts? You have to think that and many more questions are being investigated.

If he is ruled ineligible, does a NFL team take him in the Supplemental Draft? That will be interesting to see considering he not only looked over-hyped by media but they know he is a gambling addict.

Fair point here. NFL franchises grade potential roster adds on a different scale than college football programs.

Universities routinely sweep inconvenient issues under the rug for superstar athletes that can help them win. Conversely, a players character, disposition and reputation matter a great deal to the pros and factor significantly into draft/UDFA decisions. Shadeur Sanders is a textbook example: a talented player, but character questions were a major factor in why he dropped so far in the draft

NFL franchises are billion-dollar operations with access to a vast pool of talent; they have the luxury of passing on players with red flags. They also have to live up to the expectations of the other 31 owners while maintaining the reputation of their team and “the shield.”

[AppStFan1]

These articles claim that Cincinnati was notified last August that their QB, Sorsby, had placed bets on his former team (Indiana) while he was a player. Admittedly, he was not on the travel squad for IU and did not participate in any games he bet on, but nonetheless, UC was told and one would have to assume that Satt was informed and played him anyways. The pressure to win is great, sometimes it leads folks to do things you would never expect. Now, Sorsby has a 6 million dollar NIL deal with Texas Tech and in the middle of a lawsuit trying to maintain eligibility. His lawyers (clearly very smart) are arguing a mental health disorder. One that the NCAA and member institutions are inextricably tied to the gambling industry. It will be an interesting order, the Judge is a double degree graduate from Texas Tech. Stay tuned as this won't be the last big-time gambling scandal. Somewhere Art Schlichter is bemoaning his loss of a potential hall of fame career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 829187007/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 160220007/

What is interesting about this is that Sorsby started the year off playing solid and was bad later in the year. I wonder if he was gambling on his own games at Cincy and possibly helped shaved points or even through some games to pay off debts? You have to think that and many more questions are being investigated.

If he is ruled ineligible, does a NFL team take him in the Supplemental Draft? That will be interesting to see considering he not only looked over-hyped by media but they know he is a gambling addict.

Fair point here. NFL franchises grade potential roster adds on a different scale than college football programs.

Universities routinely sweep inconvenient issues under the rug for superstar athletes that can help them win. Conversely, a players character, disposition and reputation matter a great deal to the pros and factor significantly into draft/UDFA decisions. Shadeur Sanders is a textbook example: a talented player, but character questions were a major factor in why he dropped so far in the draft

NFL franchises are billion-dollar operations with access to a vast pool of talent; they have the luxury of passing on players with red flags. They also have to live up to the expectations of the other 31 owners while maintaining the reputation of their team and “the shield.”

Yeah it is a very different dynamic for them. Even college coaches we view as moral will overlook behavior when boosters are paying a player 5M and there is immense pressure to win. Satterfield knew and he ideally would have sat Sorsby but he did not do it. I really don't think he could have realistically.

[311neers]

They might be screwed.
Sorsby agent says Cincy knew about the betting and turned the cheek…

That agent is a punk. He knew and never said anything…

Uh oh Satt.

[BambooRdApp]

Cincy says.. not so fast my friend

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/491 ... y-gambling

[Bootsy]

TT better have coughed up some serious ducks for an All-Pro O-Line to protect Sorsby during games.

Talk about polarizing…I can’t begin to imagine the circus that will surround the team at away games.

[AppStFan1]

They might be screwed.
Sorsby agent says Cincy knew about the betting and turned the cheek…

That agent is a punk. He knew and never said anything…

Uh oh Satt.

I don't believe Sorsby's agent at all unless he shows proof.

[ASUFan4863]

Well you should.

[AppStFan1]

Well you should.

You are right. Agents are trustworthy.

[Bigdaddyg1]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

[ASUFan4863]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

Disagree. First, Gambling is a huge issue with young men in today’s society and it should not be downplayed. Second, this has happened before in the NFL with Calvin Ridley and others. If you are talented enough, the NFL will forgive you. I believe Sorsby will fall into that category.

[AppStFan1]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

Disagree. First, Gambling is a huge issue with young men in today’s society and it should not be downplayed. Second, this has happened before in the NFL with Calvin Ridley and others. If you are talented enough, the NFL will forgive you. I believe Sorsby will fall into that category.

Sorsby wanted to declare early after the season but was told round 3 so he decided to stay. Just to show how the media has recency bias they are projecting round 1 because that is what they expected going into next year despite the fact he was told round 3 after the season. I was under the impression he was expected to go in round 3-4 if he had come out early so I would expect that without the gambling. It will be interesting to see if he falls from that or is still over drafted despite the gambling.

Just from watching a couple games of him he is definitely a draftable player and good enough to make a roster but I don't see why he is viewed as a round 1 player by the media. His teams have yet to win more than 7 games in each of the last 2 years, he has not won a game in November in college, and he has lost big games against good teams. He has good size, arm strength, and is accurate on short throws but looks mediocre at best against good teams. Look at the Utah and BYU games last year. He lost 26-14 to BYU and while he had 300 yards he only had 2 TDs and 1 INT. He lost 45-14 to Utah with a 1-1 TD/INT ratio and had 221 yards. He completes a good bit of passes and has yards but they throw the ball a good bit so he should.

[Mjohn1988]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

Disagree. First, Gambling is a huge issue with young men in today’s society and it should not be downplayed. Second, this has happened before in the NFL with Calvin Ridley and others. If you are talented enough, the NFL will forgive you. I believe Sorsby will fall into that category.

Gambling is a HUGE issue with young men. I’m no saint so I’m not preaching at anyone but as a society we are getting ready to see a bunch of destroyed lives.

[appdaze]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

Disagree. First, Gambling is a huge issue with young men in today’s society and it should not be downplayed. Second, this has happened before in the NFL with Calvin Ridley and others. If you are talented enough, the NFL will forgive you. I believe Sorsby will fall into that category.

Gambling is a HUGE issue with young men. I’m no saint so I’m not preaching at anyone but as a society we are getting ready to see a bunch of destroyed lives.

Gambling truly is. The tendencies are starting with the mobile games they played as kids in the last 10 years that are literally digital gambling. Then they shift to real gambling starting with sports. Its bad.

[AppStFan1]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

Disagree. First, Gambling is a huge issue with young men in today’s society and it should not be downplayed. Second, this has happened before in the NFL with Calvin Ridley and others. If you are talented enough, the NFL will forgive you. I believe Sorsby will fall into that category.

Gambling is a HUGE issue with young men. I’m no saint so I’m not preaching at anyone but as a society we are getting ready to see a bunch of destroyed lives.

Gambling truly is. The tendencies are starting with the mobile games they played as kids in the last 10 years that are literally digital gambling. Then they shift to real gambling starting with sports. Its bad.

The NFL, NCAA, and society is not going to teach kids that gambling can be bad because they make money off it so parents are going to have to do it. It is just a new version of giving the talk about drinking and driving. There are a lot of concerns over Sorsby possibly gambling on his own games and getting to where he might get in debt and shave points to pay off his debts. If I was a HC I would not touch him at all and if I knew of any player gambling I would cut them. It is something that needs to be stamped out just like drinking and driving or drugs.

[spacemonkey]

Just wait till the evangelic churches find out they could offer gambling at church and make a little extra. It won't be long.

[AppWyo]

Just wait till the evangelic churches find out they could offer gambling at church and make a little extra. It won't be long.

BINGO!

[Bigdaddyg1]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

Disagree. First, Gambling is a huge issue with young men in today’s society and it should not be downplayed. Second, this has happened before in the NFL with Calvin Ridley and others. If you are talented enough, the NFL will forgive you. I believe Sorsby will fall into that category.

Let me first say that I avoid tit for tat arguments with anyone on these topics. I’m not sure exactly what you disagree with? This guy is a quarterback who will touch the ball way more than most anyone on the field during a game. To think that he’s done gambling is probably a stretch. While I never thought games are fixed it’s way too easy for a quarterback to let his game slip away without being too obvious. If I’m a coach or owner just the notion of my quarterback being involved with a fix is too much.

[ASUFan4863]

I’m not naive and pro football is first and foremost a business and there are always questionable roster moves. As far as this guy goes I can’t fathom why any team would take him. No matter how his people spin his “addiction” or his supposed recovery, if he plays every bad pass or fumble will take on an added layer of scrutiny.

Disagree. First, Gambling is a huge issue with young men in today’s society and it should not be downplayed. Second, this has happened before in the NFL with Calvin Ridley and others. If you are talented enough, the NFL will forgive you. I believe Sorsby will fall into that category.

Let me first say that I avoid tit for tat arguments with anyone on these topics. I’m not sure exactly what you disagree with? This guy is a quarterback who will touch the ball way more than most anyone on the field during a game. To think that he’s done gambling is probably a stretch. While I never thought games are fixed it’s way too easy for a quarterback to let his game slip away without being too obvious. If I’m a coach or owner just the notion of my quarterback being involved with a fix is too much.

I disagree with you saying “I can’t fathom why any team would take him”. If he’s deemed talented enough, multiple teams will submit picks to take him.

I also disagree with you placing addiction in quotes and referring to that as a spin by his people, alluding to it not being a true addiction. Gambling is the fastest growing addiction in young men.