WCU's Speir Wants Coach Moore to Consult

[AppState89]

He is no longer the coach or on the coaching staff at ASU, HE CAN DO AND GO WHERE HE WANTS NOW!!! I would go in a skinny second.

[Kgfish]

Some people are just very bitter and looking for a target.

Could it be some people are just very honest... not to mention really funny! You guys need to lighten up a little. Poking a little fun isn't as bad as some of you guys seem to think.

[hapapp]

Some people are just very bitter and looking for a target.

Could it be some people are just very honest... not to mention really funny! You guys need to lighten up a little. Poking a little fun isn't as bad as some of you guys seem to think.

I believe injecting humor is fine, mocking someone is a bit different. I'm not happy with the way Jerry handled the close of his ASU career. There were things that took place in the last years that signaled a need to turn the page. However, some folks here are overlooking what he accomplished for our Alma Mater in his 24 years here. There are a few who will continue to "dance on his grave", however, they are in the minority. Most fans despite their views on his release, firing, retiring, etc., will have fond feelings for Coach Moore and his tenure at ASU.

[sonsofyosef]

No surprise here.

Cobb and Peacock didn't fire Jerry Moore. Rather, they offered him a career change opportunity by releasing him into the talent pool and making him available to other institutions.

Cobb to Moore: “I feel it would be better for you if you were free to pursue your life unimpeded by your continued employment as Head Coach at Appalachian.”

[ASU_MBA]

Some people are just very bitter and looking for a target.

Could it be some people are just very honest... not to mention really funny! You guys need to lighten up a little. Poking a little fun isn't as bad as some of you guys seem to think.

Thank you! Seriously man, I was just screwing around. Some people get more offended when you make fun of Jerry than if you talk about their mom.

[Saint3333]

Moore was offered a similar position at App at I'm sure a much higher salary.

[JCline0429]

Moore was offered a similar position at App at I'm sure a much higher salary.

I doubt it was a much higher salary.

[Robert Norton]

JC, I think Saint meant he would get more as a consultant at ASU than at WCU.

[Saint3333]

It was north of 100k so yes it was much higher.

[ASUTodd]

Jerry Moore would go to WCU, if for no other reason, just to be spiteful. If he goes he can take his 24 years and well.......he can, uhmm..... How can I put this... I'm not sure I can articulate this in a ,manner that won't get me banned from the boards. I think Johnny Paycheck said it best.

[StorminASU]

Some people are just very bitter and looking for a target.

Could it be some people are just very honest... not to mention really funny! You guys need to lighten up a little. Poking a little fun isn't as bad as some of you guys seem to think.

Oh yes it is. It's in the board's bylaws that we can't make fun of any administrative member of ASU's staff, thus driving away older board members because they're lived past the point of being able to take a joke. Any humorous/sarcastic comment we make is only weakening the ASU family.

With that said, I think Jcline should be the new chancellor/headcoach because he seems to have a great grasp on reality, all while being unbiased.

[GlassOnion]

Jerry Moore sure didnt respect Cobb, Peacock, or Appalachian State when he left. You know from my Rivals postings how much I wished and hoped for him to retire, but I had never called for him to be fired. I was thrilled last year when Cobb was able to make necassary changes, and allow JM to go out on top. Even with several others telling me what a bad idea that was. I was wrong.

Public interviews, including the word "blindsided." His cronies attacking Cobb and Peacock in the media, and message boards. Trying to end around a deal he'd already taken. Hearing nothing but how good a man JM was for years, I must say, he apparently didnt practice what he preached in this case. This is how he chose to go out.

We don't have the whole story regarding his departure and we likely never will. What we know is that Cobb sent a very thoughtful e-mail to him saying that he thought it was in the best interest of Appalachian and his family to step away after last season. We know that Coach Moore declined the offer and wanted to work out his contract. Nobody outside the two men in that room know how the conversation went, whether it was "one more year and you're gone" or "one more year and we'll talk".

Another statement made that I've never heard disputed is that they did not broach the topic again until the meeting where Moore asked to extend his contract and was denied. Regardless of how the initial conversation went, I think we can all agree that something as big as your head coach ending a long, successful career probably merits another conversation about how you're going to handle the transition. Jerry thought that winning another SoCon title could possibly get him another year but if they'd communicated with each other in the meantime, he would not have had any false hope. JM should have never spoken to any media outlet before hashing this out but neither side is without fault, very poor communication.

Regardless of what happened (and honestly, I'm not sure I really care at this point), I don't think Jerry did anything so egregious that our fans should forget about all he did for us and lose respect for him. The positives of his tenure outweigh the negatives and it is not even close. This is not directed at you individually but continuing to kick him while he's down is unnecessary, in my opinion.

If your boss said to you, "Pack your bags at the end of the month, I'm replacing you." and didnt broach the topic for the rest of the month, do you assume youre not being replaced? Furthermore, do you assume the boss that has already told you in writing that "the people that mattered" had already made their decision, will give you a contract extension? Going even further, do you give public interviews telling the press that you were "blindsided" at the end of that month?

Jerry's got more holes in his story than JCLine's got ridiculous posts. And if it doesnt matter to you, thats fine, but it matters to me. Its not like Jerry didnt benefit from the deal. He got a second chance at coaching, he employed his son for a decade at App's expense, he got to live in a place that we all love for 24 years, doing a job that millions upon millions would love to do, and was payed well for the pleasure. If Jerry is down, its because of his own decisions, and if he's feeling some heat, its probably because of the way he decided to treat those doing their job, even as they went out of their way for his benefit. If the man wants to coach elsewhere, thats his business, but it certainly wont endear him to me.

And I'd love to move on, but seeing how JCline is going to post a Jerry Moore thread daily, even when he has to dig up a story from his compost heap, it doesnt seem all that likely.

[JCline0429]

You feel better, now?

[JCline0429]

As to rediculous posts, several people made sensible tactful replies something that some of you cronies couldn't seem to do.. Thus they must not have seen the post as rediculous. Get over yourselves.

[bcoach]

Some people are just very bitter and looking for a target.

Could it be some people are just very honest... not to mention really funny! You guys need to lighten up a little. Poking a little fun isn't as bad as some of you guys seem to think.

Thank you! Seriously man, I was just screwing around. Some people get more offended when you make fun of Jerry than if you talk about their mom.

I wasn't talking about you. You were trying to be funny I know. Not funny to me but I understand your point.

[GlassOnion]

As to rediculous posts, several people made sensible tactful repie, something that some of you cronies couldn't seem to do.. Thus they must not have seen the post as rediculous. Get over yourselves.

Ridiculous.

[JCline0429]

As to rediculous posts, several people made sensible tactful repie, something that some of you cronies couldn't seem to do.. Thus they must not have seen the post as rediculous. Get over yourselves.

Ridiculous.

You can say anything you want but you have no grounds .

[GlassOnion]

As to rediculous posts, several people made sensible tactful repie, something that some of you cronies couldn't seem to do.. Thus they must not have seen the post as rediculous. Get over yourselves.

Ridiculous.

You can say anything you want but you have no grounds .

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ridiculous

Grounds?

[Appsolutely]

Jerry Moore sure didnt respect Cobb, Peacock, or Appalachian State when he left. You know from my Rivals postings how much I wished and hoped for him to retire, but I had never called for him to be fired. I was thrilled last year when Cobb was able to make necassary changes, and allow JM to go out on top. Even with several others telling me what a bad idea that was. I was wrong.

Public interviews, including the word "blindsided." His cronies attacking Cobb and Peacock in the media, and message boards. Trying to end around a deal he'd already taken. Hearing nothing but how good a man JM was for years, I must say, he apparently didnt practice what he preached in this case. This is how he chose to go out.

We don't have the whole story regarding his departure and we likely never will. What we know is that Cobb sent a very thoughtful e-mail to him saying that he thought it was in the best interest of Appalachian and his family to step away after last season. We know that Coach Moore declined the offer and wanted to work out his contract. Nobody outside the two men in that room know how the conversation went, whether it was "one more year and you're gone" or "one more year and we'll talk".

Another statement made that I've never heard disputed is that they did not broach the topic again until the meeting where Moore asked to extend his contract and was denied. Regardless of how the initial conversation went, I think we can all agree that something as big as your head coach ending a long, successful career probably merits another conversation about how you're going to handle the transition. Jerry thought that winning another SoCon title could possibly get him another year but if they'd communicated with each other in the meantime, he would not have had any false hope. JM should have never spoken to any media outlet before hashing this out but neither side is without fault, very poor communication.

Regardless of what happened (and honestly, I'm not sure I really care at this point), I don't think Jerry did anything so egregious that our fans should forget about all he did for us and lose respect for him. The positives of his tenure outweigh the negatives and it is not even close. This is not directed at you individually but continuing to kick him while he's down is unnecessary, in my opinion.

If your boss said to you, "Pack your bags at the end of the month, I'm replacing you." and didnt broach the topic for the rest of the month, do you assume youre not being replaced? Furthermore, do you assume the boss that has already told you in writing that "the people that mattered" had already made their decision, will give you a contract extension? Going even further, do you give public interviews telling the press that you were "blindsided" at the end of that month?

Jerry's got more holes in his story than JCLine's got ridiculous posts. And if it doesnt matter to you, thats fine, but it matters to me. Its not like Jerry didnt benefit from the deal. He got a second chance at coaching, he employed his son for a decade at App's expense, he go to live in a place that we all love for 24 years, doing a job that millions upon millions would love to do, and was payed well for the pleasure. If Jerry is down, its because of his own decisions, and if he's feeling some heat, its probably because of the way he decided to treat those doing their job, even as they went out of their way for his benefit. If the man wants to coach elsewhere, thats his business, but it certainly wont endear him to me.

And I'd love to move on, but seeing how JCline is going to post a Jerry Moore thread daily, even when he has to dig up a story from his compost heap, it doesnt seem all that likely.

You better watch it GO, or he will quit the board AGAIN, and this time he might not even start a poll to see if we want him to stay.

[GlassOnion]

How ridiculous is it that there are more JM threads in the past week than for our current coach?