Marshall Pulls Out

[AppinVA]

The players' coach took another job the day after winning the title. The grown ups in the room have been acting this way for awhile towards bowls.

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Um, 400 thread count sheets? Why don’t you just sleep on sand paper?

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Extremely bad analogy. These guys were never forced to play football, it's a choice. Plus, they have always been compensated. I'm not saying they didn't deserve more, but that's a terrible analogy.

It was a strong analogy but not sure it was a bad analogy. If players can't walk away when they see fit it is best for themselves they are essentially indentured servants. Slaves were compensated with food and bare minimal shelter. It is not just the compensation or lack thereof, as coal miners and textile workers were paid with script but if they owed their soul to the company store they had essentially no freedom to leave their jobs. Sounds like some would like to see this very thing with college athletes.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Are any of them refunding the scholarship money?

I assume they are not getting any scholarships for next semester. Most every college is out for winter break so those players played the entire semester and had a scholarship for the entire semester. When the spring semester starts in January I expect these students to not be on a football scholly. If they earned good grades they might be on academic scholly.

You are correct in that that are likely some of the most privileged on campus but they are also giving those privileges up. But privileges or not, they should be be forced to perform work that they do not want to perform. If they understand what they are giving up and make that decision then so be it. It is there decision to make, not a fans decision, and not a coach's decision, and not administrators decision. At the end of the day the athletes are the ones putting their body on the line.

[Seattleapp]

The players' coach took another job the day after winning the title. The grown ups in the room have been acting this way for awhile towards bowls.

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Hyperbole much? When all else fails
Pull out the slavery card. I hope
You are drunk because this is the dumbest comment. These “slaves” are making more
Than the coaches. Maybe you need a course on what slavery means. Or just keep pushing your stupid Marxist ideology

[Seattleapp]

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Extremely bad analogy. These guys were never forced to play football, it's a choice. Plus, they have always been compensated. I'm not saying they didn't deserve more, but that's a terrible analogy.

It was a strong analogy but not sure it was a bad analogy. If players can't walk away when they see fit it is best for themselves they are essentially indentured servants. Slaves were compensated with food and bare minimal shelter. It is not just the compensation or lack thereof, as coal miners and textile workers were paid with script but if they owed their soul to the company store they had essentially no freedom to leave their jobs. Sounds like some would like to see this very thing with college athletes.

Way to give your bullshit analogy a
Pat on the back. How about the fact that we are throwing millions yes Millions of dollars at kids and expecting them to do the right thing. The “bad” previous way at least taught them some life lessons about team work, earning a degree, valuing and investing in the university . Staying with a school and earning playing time and believing in something bigger than Yourself. I know you fancy yourself a big thinker but you are so wrong headed with this take. Stick to your climate conspiracies and stfu about how poorly the players are being treated because that’s crap and everyone knows it

[AppWyo]

LaTech is replacing Marshall.

Would App have been considered as a replacement had we not fired Clark?

[ASUTodd]

LaTech is replacing Marshall.

Would App have been considered as a replacement had we not fired Clark?

You fall and hit your head?

[AtlAppMan]

I never knew slaves got a college education in return for their forced labor? Is that a new revision of history by our educators?

[hapapp]

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Hyperbole much? When all else fails
Pull out the slavery card. I hope
You are drunk because this is the dumbest comment. These “slaves” are making more
Than the coaches. Maybe you need a course on what slavery means. Or just keep pushing your stupid Marxist ideology

Doesn't sound like Marxism to me, sounds like the players are participating in capitalism.

[Mjohn1988]

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Hyperbole much? When all else fails
Pull out the slavery card. I hope
You are drunk because this is the dumbest comment. These “slaves” are making more
Than the coaches. Maybe you need a course on what slavery means. Or just keep pushing your stupid Marxist ideology

Doesn't sound like Marxism to me, sounds like the players are participating in capitalism.

So I do get to expect something from them for accepting the money, right?

[AppDub]

I never knew slaves got a college education in return for their forced labor? Is that a new revision of history by our educators?

Meanwhile most kids pay to attend the same colleges just because they weren't gifted with the ability to throw and catch a football at the highest level. This crap is all out of control. Maybe this whole escapade will get so far out of hand that people will finally start rethinking what should be valued.

[fjblair]

Yet another example of the lunacy infecting college football.

Feel bad for the Marshall kids who actually wanted to play the game.

Hard to believe fans will continue to support players who clearly could care less about their teams and teammates.

Sad times.

They won't in my opinion. I suspect the fallout from this insanity will significantly impact fan support.

[Saint3333]

Like most things the bailout will be slowly then swiftly. Without some guidelines we’ve got about three more years at the G5 level.

[AppGrad78]

LaTech is replacing Marshall.

Would App have been considered as a replacement had we not fired Clark?

I wondered the same thing. I’m guessing the Independence Bowl wanted butts in seats after the “conference champion versus conference champion” storyline disappeared. Nearby La. Tech was an easy choice.

[MrCraig]

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Hyperbole much? When all else fails
Pull out the slavery card. I hope
You are drunk because this is the dumbest comment. These “slaves” are making more
Than the coaches. Maybe you need a course on what slavery means. Or just keep pushing your stupid Marxist ideology

Go find me literally one player make more money per year in NIL than his coach. The vast majority of college football players receive very little NIL money.

His analogy is strong and arguably incorrect, but he’s 100% right that college football has finally caught up with capitalism. Young men are being financially compensated for their worth based on what the market sees as their value. The cherry on top is the number of obviously right-leaning folks who really hate to see this.

Why it bothers so many people that someone should be allowed to make money off their name and talent, and move to another job/school when a better opportunity arises, is completely beyond me.

[MrCraig]

The players' coach took another job the day after winning the title. The grown ups in the room have been acting this way for awhile towards bowls.

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

The rec fields are open until 8 if you want to go play for the love of the game. These are professional/semiprofessional level athletes with immense talent who have spent years crafting their skills. They should be allowed to chase whatever opportunity that talent affords them, just like every other person in the United States of America.

[Seattleapp]

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

How about those slaves pick some cotton for the love of 400 thread count sheets. I wish this was not happening to be honest but these players are not slaves or indentured servants, much to the chagrin of some fans of college football.

Hyperbole much? When all else fails
Pull out the slavery card. I hope
You are drunk because this is the dumbest comment. These “slaves” are making more
Than the coaches. Maybe you need a course on what slavery means. Or just keep pushing your stupid Marxist ideology

Doesn't sound like Marxism to me, sounds like the players are participating in capitalism.

Yeah I can see that position and imo it’s a complicated topic. I also feel pretty confident the original poster is not a huge proponent of “capitalism” as you are framing it. I unevenly lumped two things together in my response. Not my best articulation

[Bootsy]

I can respect all sides of the NIL/TP arguments, because all parties have valid points and positions. But would anyone disagree that changes in the operation of NIL/TP are needed to protect all parties involved?

I also believe that unless some things change, one casualty will be post season bowl games. When teams drop out because they don’t have enough players (Marshall) or a bowl bound team is gutted by the TP, both serious and casual fans will rapidly lose interest.

If anyone has the leverage to save the bowl game scheme, it could very well be the gambling outfits (I almost can’t believe I’m saying this). Think about it: if the bowl games are garbage and fans aren’t interested, how does that affect betting? Yes, I recognize that non-CFP bowls won’t get the same level of action as the CFP games. But they still generate a lot of betting action, so some of the biggest losers from crappy bowl games are FanDuel, ESPN Bet, Caesars, etc.

Feel free to call me crazy on this next take, if you wish

[Saint3333]

How does CFB we know, just like in the colosseum, with applause from the masses as we watch 60 programs break away.

[Mjohn1988]

The players' coach took another job the day after winning the title. The grown ups in the room have been acting this way for awhile towards bowls.

Their coach was shown the door. His contract was not renewed. He kinda had to look for another job. Granted, he had been doing that all along, which is why he wasn’t renewed.

Thank you for this. Quit blaming the players for not wanting to play for a coach that didn’t recruit them. Marshall obviously doesn’t care about those players leaving or they would’ve extended the coach who just won the conference title.

How about they play for the love of the game? I played for some awful coaches and with some sorry teammates but I always played. What happens to these young men in real life when someone walks out or God forbid disappoints them?

The rec fields are open until 8 if you want to go play for the love of the game. These are professional/semiprofessional level athletes with immense talent who have spent years crafting their skills. They should be allowed to chase whatever opportunity that talent affords them, just like every other person in the United States of America.

I never said they couldn’t do anything. But I do think they have some degree of responsibility to the university that helped them along the way. Some degree of responsibilities to the tax payers and volunteers who provided the opportunity for them to display their “immense talent”. Some degree of responsibility to all the folks who make game day, game day. The band, the cheerleaders, the video team, the crew that sets up the stadium and yes the fans. Rarely do people reach their goals completely on their own. There are other folks to consider. Many times in life what you can do and what you should do are two very different things.