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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:27 am

CFP blowouts as expected. Some really want to expand more? Uh ok.
It’s only going to get worse if something isn’t done to level the playing field. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Chiefs would have more star players and Jerry would have a billion dollar roster

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:47 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:27 am
CFP blowouts as expected. Some really want to expand more? Uh ok.
It’s only going to get worse if something isn’t done to level the playing field. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Chiefs would have more star players and Jerry would have a billion dollar roster
I think 8 the right number there is no doubt that if we expand that we will see more blowouts. I don't know why anyone is shocked we have had some because there are blowouts in FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA playoffs every year. It is always going to happen when you have a bigger field.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:17 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:27 am
CFP blowouts as expected. Some really want to expand more? Uh ok.
It’s only going to get worse if something isn’t done to level the playing field. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Chiefs would have more star players and Jerry would have a billion dollar roster
…and the Cowboys would still underperform. But JJ could brag about having the largest payroll in the league.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:15 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:47 am
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:27 am
CFP blowouts as expected. Some really want to expand more? Uh ok.
It’s only going to get worse if something isn’t done to level the playing field. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Chiefs would have more star players and Jerry would have a billion dollar roster
I think 8 the right number there is no doubt that if we expand that we will see more blowouts. I don't know why anyone is shocked we have had some because there are blowouts in FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA playoffs every year. It is always going to happen when you have a bigger field.
We had blowouts during the BCS, Bowl Alliance, Bowl Coalition, and Four Team Playoff era as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Coalition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... yoff_games

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by MrCraig » Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:49 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:15 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:47 am
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:27 am
CFP blowouts as expected. Some really want to expand more? Uh ok.
It’s only going to get worse if something isn’t done to level the playing field. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Chiefs would have more star players and Jerry would have a billion dollar roster
I think 8 the right number there is no doubt that if we expand that we will see more blowouts. I don't know why anyone is shocked we have had some because there are blowouts in FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA playoffs every year. It is always going to happen when you have a bigger field.
We had blowouts during the BCS, Bowl Alliance, Bowl Coalition, and Four Team Playoff era as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Coalition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... yoff_games
There’s also plenty of blowouts in the NFL playoffs, MLB, NBA, basically any playoff format. There’s always going to be true contenders and teams that are good but not the real deal. The magic is when the teams that seem like they shouldn’t be there steal a win or two. It may not happen this year, but it’ll happen.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:23 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:49 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:15 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:47 am
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:27 am
CFP blowouts as expected. Some really want to expand more? Uh ok.
It’s only going to get worse if something isn’t done to level the playing field. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Chiefs would have more star players and Jerry would have a billion dollar roster
I think 8 the right number there is no doubt that if we expand that we will see more blowouts. I don't know why anyone is shocked we have had some because there are blowouts in FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA playoffs every year. It is always going to happen when you have a bigger field.
We had blowouts during the BCS, Bowl Alliance, Bowl Coalition, and Four Team Playoff era as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Coalition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... yoff_games
There’s also plenty of blowouts in the NFL playoffs, MLB, NBA, basically any playoff format. There’s always going to be true contenders and teams that are good but not the real deal. The magic is when the teams that seem like they shouldn’t be there steal a win or two. It may not happen this year, but it’ll happen.
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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by AppWyo » Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:09 am

MrCraig wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:49 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:15 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:47 am
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:27 am
CFP blowouts as expected. Some really want to expand more? Uh ok.
It’s only going to get worse if something isn’t done to level the playing field. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Chiefs would have more star players and Jerry would have a billion dollar roster
I think 8 the right number there is no doubt that if we expand that we will see more blowouts. I don't know why anyone is shocked we have had some because there are blowouts in FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA playoffs every year. It is always going to happen when you have a bigger field.
We had blowouts during the BCS, Bowl Alliance, Bowl Coalition, and Four Team Playoff era as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Coalition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... yoff_games
There’s also plenty of blowouts in the NFL playoffs, MLB, NBA, basically any playoff format. There’s always going to be true contenders and teams that are good but not the real deal. The magic is when the teams that seem like they shouldn’t be there steal a win or two. It may not happen this year, but it’ll happen.
That is what motivates Appalachian the most, we come from the playoff experience, with three national championships to show for it, we come from doing what most thought was impossible, an FCS team beating a ranked FBS team, and once you have been at the top of the mountain anything less is not a compromise, we are willing to make.

Sort of like when you have met the most beautiful person you have ever seen, everyone else seems plain after that, but you know what beauty is possible, so you are never satisfied until you see beauty like that again...

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by Bootsy » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:43 am

And then there’s the old saying that “beauty is only skin deep, but ugly is to the bone."

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:12 pm

The best teams money can buy. Well, or rent.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by AppWyo » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:16 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:12 pm
The best teams money can buy. Well, or rent.
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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by ASUTodd » Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:47 pm

Whole lot of crickets from the ND doubters.... I say that....but I really think that the bye week screwed the teams. Give me a first round game.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by appdaze » Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:24 pm

Make it an even 16 teams for a real playoff. Have bowl games for the rest of the top 25 that didn't make the cut. Eliminate all other bowl games. 6-6 should not be getting a post season.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by WASU 93 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:35 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:47 pm
Whole lot of crickets from the ND doubters.... I say that....but I really think that the bye week screwed the teams. Give me a first round game.
First round should have been Bowl Games, Top 4 seeds should have been able to host the second round on campus.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by ASU843 » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:28 am

appdaze wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Make it an even 16 teams for a real playoff. Have bowl games for the rest of the top 25 that didn't make the cut. Eliminate all other bowl games. 6-6 should not be getting a post season.


6-6 should not be getting a post season? Why?

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by AppDawg » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:49 am

ASU843 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:28 am
appdaze wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Make it an even 16 teams for a real playoff. Have bowl games for the rest of the top 25 that didn't make the cut. Eliminate all other bowl games. 6-6 should not be getting a post season.


6-6 should not be getting a post season? Why?
Simple answer: It’s not a winning record.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by appdaze » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:55 am

ASU843 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:28 am
appdaze wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Make it an even 16 teams for a real playoff. Have bowl games for the rest of the top 25 that didn't make the cut. Eliminate all other bowl games. 6-6 should not be getting a post season.


6-6 should not be getting a post season? Why?
Because 6-6 means you aren't a good team. That doesn't deserve a post season spot. That means you scored a 50% on the regular season test. I've watched many of these bowl games over the decades and these lower ones are terrible even when the teams evenly suck. Post season should be reserved foe the best to prove they are the best, not to give the mediocre a pat on the back.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:10 am

appdaze wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:55 am
ASU843 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:28 am
appdaze wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Make it an even 16 teams for a real playoff. Have bowl games for the rest of the top 25 that didn't make the cut. Eliminate all other bowl games. 6-6 should not be getting a post season.


6-6 should not be getting a post season? Why?
Because 6-6 means you aren't a good team. That doesn't deserve a post season spot. That means you scored a 50% on the regular season test. I've watched many of these bowl games over the decades and these lower ones are terrible even when the teams evenly suck. Post season should be reserved foe the best to prove they are the best, not to give the mediocre a pat on the back.
Like you’ve reminded us about a bunch of other things, it’s the money.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by goapps93 » Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:23 am

The "post-season" in football is invaluable when it is more rightly considered "pre-season." I will admit it's different now with the portal, but the extra practices for underclassmen go a long way in preparation for the next season. The whole system, however, is going to have to be reconsidered with the new playoff, as it also evolves.
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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by spacemonkey » Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:31 am

It has to evolve into an NIT (G5 champs and top rated p4's that didn't make CFP) for anyone to care and the money generated from the NIT has to go to the players or they are going to sit. Second level NIT vs bowls.

CIT for G5 teams that want to play more. Top 16 teams not making the CFP or NIT. Probably will cost a school to participate. Should probably have to pay to host the playoff game. I think players would participate in this hoping to impress a p4 school to pay them.

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Re: 12 team playoff

Unread post by KentHogan » Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:52 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:55 am
ASU843 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:28 am
appdaze wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Make it an even 16 teams for a real playoff. Have bowl games for the rest of the top 25 that didn't make the cut. Eliminate all other bowl games. 6-6 should not be getting a post season.


6-6 should not be getting a post season? Why?
Because 6-6 means you aren't a good team. That doesn't deserve a post season spot. That means you scored a 50% on the regular season test. I've watched many of these bowl games over the decades and these lower ones are terrible even when the teams evenly suck. Post season should be reserved foe the best to prove they are the best, not to give the mediocre a pat on the back.
But you forget, everyone deserves a participation trophy now! And everyone is victim!

It’s just the money, the more bowls the better. Although the bowls are quickly becoming meaningless due to the portal and players opting out.

Pretty soon, no one will care.

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