The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:16 am

Clearly sacrificing women's basketball and the coach with the second most wins in NCAA history to save men's basketball and football ---
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/ ... 48684.html
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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:32 am

WVAPPeer wrote:Clearly sacrificing women's basketball and the coach with the second most wins in NCAA history to save men's basketball and football ---
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/ ... 48684.html
Someone like Linda Robinson (since retired from ASU) needs to get hold of this. H3ll if they in a remote chance find Roy was implicated in the scandal, it would be a cold day in Hades before the Heels would be barred from NCAA tournament play. The Title IX people should get involved in this differentiation in contracts...at least put a scare into the Hick boys.
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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by asu66 » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:14 pm

More violations reported at UNC yesterday...women's basketball and men's soccer...one of those late Friday afternoon releases intended to get lost in a slow news weekend. CBS suggests that this otherwise bad news will actually be good news for RoyBoy and men's basketball. The network implies that the timing of the announcement is rather suspect.

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by Gonzo » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:42 pm

asu66 wrote:More violations reported at UNC yesterday...women's basketball and men's soccer...one of those late Friday afternoon releases intended to get lost in a slow news weekend. CBS suggests that this otherwise bad news will actually be good news for RoyBoy and men's basketball. The network implies that the timing of the announcement is rather suspect.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... tions-case
I don't think anything needs to be implied about this "self-report." It's an obviously deliberate stall tactic. One more season without consequences and one more season for everyone to forget about it.

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:04 am

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23978/

This is interesting. Not surprising for any institution of higher learning these days, but interesting.

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:43 pm

Gonzo wrote:http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23978/

This is interesting. Not surprising for any institution of higher learning these days, but interesting.
This does come from a right-leaning website. They have a right to their opinion, but it is just that - an opinion and not fact in all likelihood.

If one takes the article as face-value, and I am not sure I am ready to do that at present, then I would think it would be nice to have a bit more balance in the class. But I would bet most of the students in the class have not had a chance to read any of this literature and that is one goal of a college experience-see new viewpoints.

On a different note, the US has at least 600 military bases in over three dozen countries. That sounds like imperialism to me. The link below is a few years old, but this was on the news a few days ago and the numbers I heard were not far off.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... 30-nation/
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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

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Gonzo wrote:http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23978/

This is interesting. Not surprising for any institution of higher learning these days, but interesting.
This does come from a right-leaning website. They have a right to their opinion, but it is just that - an opinion and not fact in all likelihood.

If one takes the article as face-value, and I am not sure I am ready to do that at present, then I would think it would be nice to have a bit more balance in the class. But I would bet most of the students in the class have not had a chance to read any of this literature and that is one goal of a college experience-see new viewpoints.

On a different note, the US has at least 600 military bases in over three dozen countries. That sounds like imperialism to me. The link below is a few years old, but this was on the news a few days ago and the numbers I heard were not far off.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... 30-nation/
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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:04 am

Would you want another country having bases in the USA?

How would you define imperialism?
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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by Gonzo » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:07 am

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Gonzo wrote:http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23978/

This is interesting. Not surprising for any institution of higher learning these days, but interesting.
This does come from a right-leaning website. They have a right to their opinion, but it is just that - an opinion and not fact in all likelihood.

If one takes the article as face-value, and I am not sure I am ready to do that at present, then I would think it would be nice to have a bit more balance in the class. But I would bet most of the students in the class have not had a chance to read any of this literature and that is one goal of a college experience-see new viewpoints.

On a different note, the US has at least 600 military bases in over three dozen countries. That sounds like imperialism to me. The link below is a few years old, but this was on the news a few days ago and the numbers I heard were not far off.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... 30-nation/
Look at the book list, man. There isn't much right-wing spin because there doesn't need to be. It's not an Op piece at all. It's a list of required reading and a description of class goals that earned that characterization.

Balance in the class?!?! Are you kidding me? You think the most dastardly attack on civilian America in our history, killing thousands of innocent people in the name of Allah, is just misunderstood? That is a despicable point of view from an American citizen, I'm sorry. Hideki Tojo wasn't a bad guy either, right? The attack on Pearl Harbor was merely a consequence of America's oil embargo of Japan.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that young Americans are being seduced into joining the savage armies of ISIS when we have tax-funded jihad classes offered to college students and adult liberals defend the practice.
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:Would you want another country having bases in the USA?

How would you define imperialism?
You can be critical of our foreign policy decisions without glorifying 9-11.

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:16 am

Comparing the US to prior imperial regimes is a stretch at best.

If we pulled all our troops out the same people labeling the US as imperialist would then claim we don't care that foreign leaders are mistreating their people.

I'm fine with the US taking care of home matters instead of being the "world police".

Can't have it both ways...

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by HeffnerIV » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:27 am

Saint3333 wrote:Comparing the US to prior imperial regimes is a stretch at best.

If we pulled all our troops out the same people labeling the US as imperialist would then claim we don't care that foreign leaders are mistreating their people.

I'm fine with the US taking care of home matters instead of being the "world police".

Can't have it both ways...

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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:44 pm

Gonzo wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Gonzo wrote:http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23978/

This is interesting. Not surprising for any institution of higher learning these days, but interesting.
This does come from a right-leaning website. They have a right to their opinion, but it is just that - an opinion and not fact in all likelihood.

If one takes the article as face-value, and I am not sure I am ready to do that at present, then I would think it would be nice to have a bit more balance in the class. But I would bet most of the students in the class have not had a chance to read any of this literature and that is one goal of a college experience-see new viewpoints.

On a different note, the US has at least 600 military bases in over three dozen countries. That sounds like imperialism to me. The link below is a few years old, but this was on the news a few days ago and the numbers I heard were not far off.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... 30-nation/
Look at the book list, man. There isn't much right-wing spin because there doesn't need to be. It's not an Op piece at all. It's a list of required reading and a description of class goals that earned that characterization.

Balance in the class?!?! Are you kidding me? You think the most dastardly attack on civilian America in our history, killing thousands of innocent people in the name of Allah, is just misunderstood? That is a despicable point of view from an American citizen, I'm sorry. Hideki Tojo wasn't a bad guy either, right? The attack on Pearl Harbor was merely a consequence of America's oil embargo of Japan.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that young Americans are being seduced into joining the savage armies of ISIS when we have tax-funded jihad classes offered to college students and adult liberals defend the practice.
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:Would you want another country having bases in the USA?

How would you define imperialism?
You can be critical of our foreign policy decisions without glorifying 9-11.
I don't think I misunderstand what went on, and I don't think my post implied that I did. What I don't have a problem with is having students read about important issues from a perspective that may,and in this case very likely will be outside their comfort zone. It is called trying to understand the other side, or if you like put in the word "enemy" for other side. It is called having an education.

And I am certainly not glorifying 9-11 in thinking that seeing a different view is not a bad thing.

To keep the discussion on the corruption at UNC-CH I am not going to post any more on this unless we move it to the politics folder. I don't want to clutter up the folders.
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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:32 pm

And we wonder why we have all these students that can't afford student loans...

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by AppDawg » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:04 pm

How is what happened at SMU any different, other than what appears to be on a smaller scale, than what is going on with the Tar Holes? Could the NCAA be anymore bias? Geez!

Brown suspended, SMU banned from postseason play for NCAA violations

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/colleg ... 5c12e.html

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by appdaze » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:13 pm

AppDawg wrote:How is what happened at SMU any different, other than what appears to be on a smaller scale, than what is going on with the Tar Holes? Could the NCAA be anymore bias? Geez!

Brown suspended, SMU banned from postseason play for NCAA violations

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/colleg ... 5c12e.html

Its hypocrisy at its worst and if I were the president of any school that gets any sort of sanctions placed against it I would challenge the NCAA in court and bring this forward as the NCAA not handing down equal punishments. There are plenty of laws out there that protect a business from such situations and college sports are a business. A good team of lawyers have a chance to burn the NCAA to the ground if that path is chosen. This just further proves the bias and ineptness of the NCAA and what they have become. As money hungry as the large conferences are becoming the NCAA better start watching where it steps, even with the small schools, as in the coming decades I have a feeling they will look for reasons of any kind to rid themselves of the NCAA and its regulations.

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by scatman77 » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:51 am

appdaze: I agree wholeheartedly. SMU should hire some good lawyers if the holes get away with this.
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Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:36 am

I think it's interesting that Larry Brown (of CHeat upbringing) has now torched his way through 3 institutions, and tend agree with Dick Vitale who said Brown should be banned from college athletics.

While I am certain no hard evidence exists, or if it does will never be unearthed, I cannot help but believe that Larry Brown, and his trail of academic devestation, is linked to, and learned from the overlords at UNCCHeat.
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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by AppDawg » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:40 am

MtnDevil95 wrote:I think it's interesting that Larry Brown (of CHeat upbringing) has now torched his way through 3 institutions, and tend agree with Dick Vitale who said Brown should be banned from college athletics.

While I am certain no hard evidence exists, or if it does will never be unearthed, I cannot help but believe that Larry Brown, and his trail of academic devestation, is linked to, and learned from the overlords at UNCCHeat.
Not only Larry Brown, but I believe I saw somewhere that SMU's AD also has ties to UNCCHeat. Oh the tangled web they weave...

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Re: The Carolina Way (Cont'd)

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:19 pm

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/12/29/ ... es-passed/

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