Toledo - NIU

[The Rock]

AGAIN - the basis of my point wasn't about UGA, it was regarding the comment that we would get blown out by a MAC team - take out what I said about UGA and them comment on my post ---
"Don't get your assumption here - Hell, UGA didn't even blow us out compared to what they have done to SEC opponents --- Why do you assume anyone from the MAC would blow us out?"

Blowout; I’m not sure about, but the fact we let NM state score 31,Idaho, put up 20 in 1 half, gave up 29 to coastal,30 to UMAss, coupled with the fact our offense has had much difficulty moving the ball at times and only plays a half or less every game leads me to believe we would struggle a great deal with a team like Toledo who seems to be playing good ball in all 3 phases.

[Yosef84]

If we get our D healthy, I feel very good about them against any opponent we play. We do need Moore to get healthy which he should certainly be by Bowl game (barring another future injury). As a team we played badly against UMass but even with all the injuries, we had to shoot ourselves in the foot repeatedly in order to lose that game. I truly hope we don't see another game with that many dropped passes and points removed from the board. If we are playing App football, we can hang with anyone in the MAC. If we play like we have at times this season (UMass, Texas State, Idaho) then we will probably not win our bowl game this year.

I'm surprised by the number on here who have already thrown in the towel. Yeah....it's frustrating. This is when the fans have to become the 12th man and lift the team. Call me delusional if you want. I know I'm a total homer, so don't think it's delusional when you're aware of your bias. I just choose to believe that our guys are winners and they are going to step up. I will always believe that we will win until the time expires and we've been beaten.

Next up is ULM. FINISH STRONG! GO APPS!

[EastHallApp]

Toledo is really good - the only guy they lost from last year's team was the RB Hunt - who is now starring for the KC Chiefs ---
If we win out and they win out do you guys want to play the best team we could conceivably play or a team we have a better change of beating? ---

I'd rather play a team with a better chance of beating unless we're in a big-time bowl which won't be the case this year. Also, if we're back at Montgomery playing the same team again...been there done that. I don't mind going back to Montgomery, it's awesome, but let's play somebody new.

My thoughts as well. In terms of perception (which is what bowl wins are really about) I think there's little if any difference between beating a 6-6 MAC or CUSA team vs. a 9-3 one. The important thing is getting one more win and bringing home a trophy.

[SpeedkingATL]

Toledo looks really good and NIU and Ohio are pretty good too. I expect that having the break between the regular season and the bowl game would allow a lot of our walking wounded to heal up and we would be a little stronger than what App is today. App's D is good enough to keep App in about any game with a G5 and I doubt we would be matched up with Toledo again. Right now I just hope App can stay healthy enough to win out against some decent Belt teams that are also fighting for bowl eligibility.

[Stonewall]

We need better O line play.

[AppSt94]

It will be interesting how The Camelia Commeitte will look at us this year. Will they look at the crowds that we bring and say if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it and invit us, or will they pass on us thinking that lightning won’t strike thrice?

[AppSt94]

We need better O line play.

Well yes. I’m not sure it is a talent issue. Right side is solid. Left side is shaky. The difference is two Seniors with 70 some starts on the right and a Soph and Junior/Freshmen in the left with 21 starts combined.

[WVAPPeer]

Toledo is really good - the only guy they lost from last year's team was the RB Hunt - who is now starring for the KC Chiefs ---
If we win out and they win out do you guys want to play the best team we could conceivably play or a team we have a better change of beating? ---

I'd rather play a team with a better chance of beating unless we're in a big-time bowl which won't be the case this year. Also, if we're back at Montgomery playing the same team again...been there done that. I don't mind going back to Montgomery, it's awesome, but let's play somebody new.

My thoughts as well. In terms of perception (which is what bowl wins are really about) I think there's little if any difference between beating a 6-6 MAC or CUSA team vs. a 9-3 one. The important thing is getting one more win and bringing home a trophy.

I think you are right on this and I tend to agree - but, what if Toledo runs the table and finishes 12-1? ---

[AppSt94]

Where is Toledo in the G5 rankings? Are they in line for. NYD Bowl. As MAC Champ, at 12-1 they have to be in the discussion.

[EastHallApp]

Toledo is really good - the only guy they lost from last year's team was the RB Hunt - who is now starring for the KC Chiefs ---
If we win out and they win out do you guys want to play the best team we could conceivably play or a team we have a better change of beating? ---

I'd rather play a team with a better chance of beating unless we're in a big-time bowl which won't be the case this year. Also, if we're back at Montgomery playing the same team again...been there done that. I don't mind going back to Montgomery, it's awesome, but let's play somebody new.

My thoughts as well. In terms of perception (which is what bowl wins are really about) I think there's little if any difference between beating a 6-6 MAC or CUSA team vs. a 9-3 one. The important thing is getting one more win and bringing home a trophy.

I think you are right on this and I tend to agree - but, what if Toledo runs the table and finishes 12-1? ---

At that point they'd probably be ranked, so yes, I do think that would carry some extra weight.

[EastHallApp]

Where is Toledo in the G5 rankings? Are they in line for. NYD Bowl. As MAC Champ, at 12-1 they have to be in the discussion.

It's a long shot. Only G5 teams in the first CFP rankings are UCF (18) and Memphis (23).

If either of those or USF wins the AAC with zero or one loss, they'll be in the NY6. A two-loss AAC champion might still have the inside track but could at least bring a 12-1 Toledo into the debate (along with Boise/SDSU if either can run the table).

If a 3-loss team wins the AAC (not likely, but still plausible), it's anybody's guess. And Troy will be kicking themselves harder for blowing that USA game.

[EastHallApp]

It will be interesting how The Camelia Commeitte will look at us this year. Will they look at the crowds that we bring and say if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it and invit us, or will they pass on us thinking that lightning won’t strike thrice?

I suspect that App, and probably the league on our behalf, will lobby to get us placed elsewhere. I don't think we brought as many last year as in 2015, and I have to assume the number would be lower still this year. Whether those efforts will be successful, who knows.

At some point you have to think Montgomery would like to figure out a way to host Troy. Might not be the best for the hotels but should be great for ticket sales.

[WVAPPeer]

Where is Toledo in the G5 rankings? Are they in line for. NYD Bowl. As MAC Champ, at 12-1 they have to be in the discussion.

I would think so - especially if Miami were to continue to win - but as mentioned there are a couple of teams that would have to lose a game or two ---

[AppSt94]

Where is Toledo in the G5 rankings? Are they in line for. NYD Bowl. As MAC Champ, at 12-1 they have to be in the discussion.

I would think so - especially if Miami were to continue to win - but as mentioned there are a couple of teams that would have to lose a game or two ---

Like who? I would think that the only team standing in their way would be UCF.

[AppSt94]

Where is Toledo in the G5 rankings? Are they in line for. NYD Bowl. As MAC Champ, at 12-1 they have to be in the discussion.

It's a long shot. Only G5 teams in the first CFP rankings are UCF (18) and Memphis (23).

If either of those or USF wins the AAC with zero or one loss, they'll be in the NY6. A two-loss AAC champion might still have the inside track but could at least bring a 12-1 Toledo into the debate (along with Boise/SDSU if either can run the table).

If a 3-loss team wins the AAC (not likely, but still plausible), it's anybody's guess. And Troy will be kicking themselves harder for blowing that USA game.

UCF beat Memphis once this year and they may get another shot. Both have SMU left. UCF ends the regular season with the I-4 War. I’m not sure eithe of them make it out unscathed.

[WVAPPeer]

South Florida is 7-1
Memphis is 7-1
Boise in 6-2
Although personally I would like to see Toledo go, if these teams win out (and they all can't win out) I believe the preference would be an AAC team and we all know how Boise still gets "more respect" than maybe they deserve ---

[EastHallApp]

Where is Toledo in the G5 rankings? Are they in line for. NYD Bowl. As MAC Champ, at 12-1 they have to be in the discussion.

It's a long shot. Only G5 teams in the first CFP rankings are UCF (18) and Memphis (23).

If either of those or USF wins the AAC with zero or one loss, they'll be in the NY6. A two-loss AAC champion might still have the inside track but could at least bring a 12-1 Toledo into the debate (along with Boise/SDSU if either can run the table).

If a 3-loss team wins the AAC (not likely, but still plausible), it's anybody's guess. And Troy will be kicking themselves harder for blowing that USA game.

UCF beat Memphis once this year and they may get another shot. Both have SMU left. UCF ends the regular season with the I-4 War. I’m not sure eithe of them make it out unscathed.

Beat 'em like a drum. I'm surprised to see Memphis ranked by the CFP. They're really getting a lot of mileage out of their win over 4-4 UCLA.

[ASU3432Mi]

We're 3-0 against the MAC over the last 2 years. Toledo is good, but I think last year's Rocket team with Kareem Hunt was better.

[EastHallApp]

If UCF runs the table - and they have a lot of tough work left to do - they'll be an interesting test case for the CFP.

Playing in the best G5 conference, they're winning conference games by an average 27 points. Overall their average margin is 31 points. Their closest game is a 10-point road win over Navy. Next closest is 27 (over a Memphis team the committee has in the top 25).

The beat Maryland by 28. They scheduled Georgia Tech but the game was canceled due to the hurricane.

On top of that, they're a massive school that's located in a decent-sized TV market and won the Fiesta Bowl just a few years ago.

If that team wins out and doesn't make the playoff, what G5 team ever will?

[AppSt94]

Well if they win out then hey should stay in the top 25 and this get to the NY6 game. What are the criteria for a NY6 invite? I know that you have to be a Conference Champ. What else?