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Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:55 pm
by ASUchipman

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:09 am
by Yosef84
Reading this article makes me really grateful for the culture that we have at App with Coach Satterfield and Coach Mike.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:37 am
by AppSt94
Why does it take loss of life to bring this type of information to light?

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:03 am
by asu66
Because there are shady characters all over big-time college sports who are out only for themselves; costs of any nature be-damned! A few of them have apparently nested and become protected at UMD. The article made it seem as if the university has a finger on the "Scale of Justice" to improperly affect the outcome of all of the investigations...as in intimidating/blocking/discouraging witness testimony.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:13 am
by ASU3432Mi
Is the Dr. Rod Walters mentioned in the article an App State alum?

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:44 am
by asu66
ASU3432Mi wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:13 am
Is the Dr. Rod Walters mentioned in the article an App State alum?
Yes! http://rodwalters.com/biography/

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:54 pm
by T-Dog
If stuff like this ever happens at App State I would want everyone involved fired.

Nine years ago a freshman almost died during workouts at KBS and the S&C coach had to go, and that was the right call IMO.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:36 am
by ASUchipman
It appears the head coach and strength coaches have been suspended.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:01 am
by asu66
Maryland has problems a lot bigger than mere poor attendance. The Head FB Coach and the Asst. AD for strength/conditioning may have negligently contributed to the death of a player through bullying and overworking him through punishment for inability to achieve goals set for him--and then trying to cover it up through coercion of witnesses.

No happy ending here! Possible criminal charges. Sad for family and friends of the deceased player. UM now experiencing attrition from FB program as parents pull their sons out to transfer elsewhere. More power to them.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:20 am
by appgrad2010
T-Dog wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:54 pm
If stuff like this ever happens at App State I would want everyone involved fired.

Nine years ago a freshman almost died during workouts at KBS and the S&C coach had to go, and that was the right call IMO.
Don't remember hearing about this. Who was the student-athlete and who was the S&C at the time?

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:20 am
by NewApp
asu66 wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:03 am
Because there are shady characters all over big-time college sports who are out only for themselves; costs of any nature be-damned! A few of them have apparently nested and become protected at UMD. The article made it seem as if the university has a finger on the "Scale of Justice" to improperly affect the outcome of all of the investigations...as in intimidating/blocking/discouraging witness testimony.
Chuck, you missed your calling. You should have been a writer. I don't always agree with your posts, but they are always well composed and articulate; even eloquent at times.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:07 pm
by T-Dog
appgrad2010 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:20 am
T-Dog wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:54 pm
If stuff like this ever happens at App State I would want everyone involved fired.

Nine years ago a freshman almost died during workouts at KBS and the S&C coach had to go, and that was the right call IMO.
Don't remember hearing about this. Who was the student-athlete and who was the S&C at the time?
The freshman was OL Storm Moore. He clinically died on the field after collapsing during a workout. Storm never played again due to an after-efect on his heart, but was kept on scholarship and graduated. The S&C was Jeff Dillman and he was gone shortly after. This was in July right before the season started.

I don't believe Dillman was malicious or anything like that. It was just something that happened under his watch.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:11 am
by appgrad2010
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:07 pm
appgrad2010 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:20 am
T-Dog wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:54 pm
If stuff like this ever happens at App State I would want everyone involved fired.

Nine years ago a freshman almost died during workouts at KBS and the S&C coach had to go, and that was the right call IMO.
Don't remember hearing about this. Who was the student-athlete and who was the S&C at the time?
The freshman was OL Storm Moore. He clinically died on the field after collapsing during a workout. Storm never played again due to an after-efect on his heart, but was kept on scholarship and graduated. The S&C was Jeff Dillman and he was gone shortly after. This was in July right before the season started.

I don't believe Dillman was malicious or anything like that. It was just something that happened under his watch.
I know remember that taking place. Did not know he clinically died on the field. I believe Dillman left for greener pastures though as he was intense but really good as a S & C coach and a high level motivator like our current S & C coach. Mike Kent made a 2nd appearance at App and was good, but I can't remember why he left or where he left for....then who was after him briefly?

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:59 am
by asu66
Here again is the background story about the sad situation at U of Maryland FB. If you haven't read it, it's worth your time to see what can happen with a couple of bad hires.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... -dj-durkin

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:24 am
by T-Dog
appgrad2010 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:11 am
I know remember that taking place. Did not know he clinically died on the field. I believe Dillman left for greener pastures though as he was intense but really good as a S & C coach and a high level motivator like our current S & C coach. Mike Kent made a 2nd appearance at App and was good, but I can't remember why he left or where he left for....then who was after him briefly?
Mike Kent left for Colorado State after the 2011 season, followed by Kareem Young, who was S&C for about two and a half years before being replaced by Iron Mike in late spring 2014.

Re: Trouble in Maryland

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:37 am
by asu66