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Re: JMU

Unread post by boonedocks » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:51 pm

I don't goof on JMU, I would be very happy to be in a conference with them. I just for the life of me, can't comprehend what makes them think that the AAC of all conferences would choose them (an FCS transition) over any number of already FBS schools.

It literally makes 0 sense.

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Re: JMU

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:00 pm

I’ve grown tired of them. They’ve been given far more credit than they’ve deserved, and had their chance and passed. Anyone who is losing FCS games and yet still thinks they’d be the best of the G5, needs a serious reality check.

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Re: JMU

Unread post by AppFan11 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:01 pm

JMU's Bourne is dreaming if he thinks the AAC is going to call them. The only way thats going to happen is if there is a major conference realingment and there are much better schools and programs than jmu. Thats cool stay in the FCS.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:08 pm

Well if the Big XII expands and takes the AACs marque schools, then the AAC can have JMU.

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Unread post by WataugaMan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:22 pm

F em

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Unread post by AppNation85 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:26 pm

LOL my god I hope we never sounded that stupid and naive when we were FCS.
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Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:56 pm

Really...who cares?

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Re: JMU

Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:39 pm

They sound like the hot girl who won't date anyone in her school because they're not good enough, buys into her own hype, then ends up as a career Hooter's girl.

Hypothetically if the Sunbelt East got so good they could cherry pick and form their own conference they'd still say no because the TV deal just wouldn't be there. They don't want to be involved in building anything, they just want to waltz in and collect the big money and fabulous prizes.
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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:41 pm

AppNation85 wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:26 pm
LOL my god I hope we never sounded that stupid and naive when we were FCS.
Some of us did and for some that think we are moving to the ACC we still do. It is hard not to sound that way when you believe in your school, and for JMU being in a bit of a state of denial about where you are in the hierarchy of college football.
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Unread post by AppGrad78 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:44 pm

Here’s what you should know about where James Madison fits into the college sports landscape. Below are numbers pulled from sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances for the 2016-17 school year (most recent I could find):

Revenue
James Madison: $48,210,400

AAC Revenue
Connecticut: $83,374,223
Cincinnati: $60,458,195
Houston: $57,174,900
Central Florida: $56,327,225
South Florida: $49,960,338
Memphis: $48,716,830
East Carolina: $48,312,311
SMU: not available
Tulane: not available
Navy: not available
Tulsa: not available
Temple: not available

SUN BELT Revenue
Arkansas State: $39,459,027
Texas State: $38,445,832
Appalachian State: $35,058,621
Coastal Carolina: $33,703,994
South Alabama: $30,693,877
Georgia State: $30,230,203
Troy: $29,962,107
Georgia Southern: $28,895,052
Louisiana: $28,326,919
La.-Monroe: $16,132,421
Texas-Arlington: $14,054,524
Arkansas Little Rock: $13,004,365

CONFERENCE USA Revenue
Old Dominion: $46,203,813
Charlotte: $37,931,802
Florida Atlantic: $34,509,259
Middle Tennessee: $34,040,334
Florida International: $33,389,929
North Texas: $32,150,203
Texas-El Paso: $31,781,343
Western Kentucky: $30,439,066
Marshall: $29,287,471
Texas-San Antonio: $28,772,631
Alabama-Birmingham: $24,795,218
Louisiana Tech: $24,722,695
Southern Miss: $23,984,639

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Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:41 pm

JMU sponsors 58 teams and that number includes what the school spends on diversity programs (hyperbole, yes, but their budget has items that we wouldn’t consider athletics, and they do sponsor a ton of sports).
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Re: JMU

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:59 pm

Virginia requires its schools to report athletic finances in a manner different than most states, which skews all of their numbers.

One Virginia school had a chance at the AAC, but VCU told them to take a hike and the conference went with Wichita instead.

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Unread post by AppFan11 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:11 pm

Yea those numbers, while at least some measure, are really meaningless. Schools use a hodgepodge of methods to come up with those numbers. Like comparing an orange and a brick.

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Unread post by appstatealum » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:31 pm

JMU is delusional. Take your time, do it right. I’d blame the fans for just being fan-atics, but it sounds like their front office is just as delusional. I’d love to get out of the SunBelt, but I appreciate their willingness to take us and all we can do is continue to work hard, garner national attention, get the Charlotte market following us more and hope that a stronger conference takes a chance on us to bolster their conference one day. But we will have to earn it.
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Unread post by hotrod2001 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:10 pm

I don't see how JMU is appealing to AAC. It's defiantly not through tv market. Virginia Tech has that whole 81 corridor locked up and Charlottesville/UVA is just due east of there.

At least with us, if we had to make the argument/sales pitch. We are technically in the Charlotte television market. And if it came to push and shove, I highly doubt the 49ers would ever cut into our market share, not at their current success rate.

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Re: JMU

Unread post by 87ASUgrad » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:19 am

I hate purple. Furman still sucks.
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Re: JMU

Unread post by Rekdiver » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:37 am

JMU has some of the highest student fees in the nation. $1,400 per full time student goes to athletics..........

Here is the breakdown:
Transportation Services $89 Support of the university's transportation services.
Student Health Services $227 Non-academic programs, departments and services that support and promote student health and wellness (University Health Center).
Facilities $364 Maintenance, operations and support of non-academic campus buildings.
Auxiliary Services $814 Non-academic programs, departments and services that facilitate student well-being, success, safety and support.
Student Activity $763 Non-academic programs, departments and services that offer a variety of extra-curricular student activities and learning opportunities (Madison Union, Marching Royal Dukes).
Debt Services and Reserves $1,089 Support of non-academic student services, athletic capital construction and major facility maintenance.
Inercollegiate Athletics $1,420 Support of the intercollegiate athletic programs for men and women.
Total $4,766 Total comprehensive fee for the year; $2,383 per semester.

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Unread post by HeffnerIV » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:44 am

Rekdiver wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:37 am
JMU has some of the highest student fees in the nation. $1,400 per full time student goes to athletics..........

Here is the breakdown:
Transportation Services $89 Support of the university's transportation services.
Student Health Services $227 Non-academic programs, departments and services that support and promote student health and wellness (University Health Center).
Facilities $364 Maintenance, operations and support of non-academic campus buildings.
Auxiliary Services $814 Non-academic programs, departments and services that facilitate student well-being, success, safety and support.
Student Activity $763 Non-academic programs, departments and services that offer a variety of extra-curricular student activities and learning opportunities (Madison Union, Marching Royal Dukes).
Debt Services and Reserves $1,089 Support of non-academic student services, athletic capital construction and major facility maintenance.
Inercollegiate Athletics $1,420 Support of the intercollegiate athletic programs for men and women.
Total $4,766 Total comprehensive fee for the year; $2,383 per semester.
Isn't it something like 70% of their budget is funded by student fees?

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Re: JMU

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:53 am

87ASUgrad wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:19 am
I hate purple. Furman still sucks.
JMU, Furple, and ECU

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Unread post by GregPercussion » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:34 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:53 am
87ASUgrad wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:19 am
I hate purple. Furman still sucks.
JMU, Furple, and ECU
and WCU, but it's okay, lots of people forget about them, they're used to it. haha

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