Mean While: Charleston Southern Football put on NCAA probation

[App90]

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/n ... c8440.html

Includes numerous football players who didn't qualify from JUCO schools and some who were not even enrolled at the university but allowed to play.

No wonder their coach ran away.......

No shrimp and grits for you....

[AtlAppMan]

Does that invalidate our loss to them in 2013?

[appgrad2010]

It very well might. Regardless, that is only on paper. They had a talented team that year, but App should not have lost. Their Coach ran away because the university would not poney up real salaries, budget, facilities to do more. The pihlosophy was- oh you win with nothing, we don't need to improve anything. The AD tried but the President and VP's were strict on spending as they lost over $10 million in a ponzi scheme by a once employed professor at the university and no one was held accountable for it. They received a notice to hire more compliance staff, etc. and refused to do so claiming they had no money. They chose not to spend but paid a President over $500,000 a year to not improve the university the last 15 years of his tenture. Lack of compliance and accountability systems led to book store employees telling numerous football players they had extra money left to spend in book store after text books and let them get headphones etc. and then progress toward degree issues and certification issues due to lack of compliance staff in athletics and academic side of campus.

[Alan]

Does that invalidate our loss to them in 2013?

Sure sounds like they may need to vacate it. Everything from 2011-17 is on the table.

[BallantyneApp]

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/n ... c8440.html

Includes numerous football players who didn't qualify from JUCO schools and some who were not even enrolled at the university but allowed to play.

No wonder their coach ran away.......

No shrimp and grits for you....

Isn’t this an academic issue and therefore not the remit of NCAA?

Oh I guess CSU should have made some spots for non-athlete transfers to come in without qualifying, thereby eliminating any wrongdoing in the eyes of the NCAA

[ASU3432Mi]

.... meanwhile, lots of snickering could be heard emanating from Chapel Hill.

[App90]

It very well might. Regardless, that is only on paper. They had a talented team that year, but App should not have lost. Their Coach ran away because the university would not poney up real salaries, budget, facilities to do more. The pihlosophy was- oh you win with nothing, we don't need to improve anything. The AD tried but the President and VP's were strict on spending as they lost over $10 million in a ponzi scheme by a once employed professor at the university and no one was held accountable for it. They received a notice to hire more compliance staff, etc. and refused to do so claiming they had no money. They chose not to spend but paid a President over $500,000 a year to not improve the university the last 15 years of his tenture. Lack of compliance and accountability systems led to book store employees telling numerous football players they had extra money left to spend in book store after text books and let them get headphones etc. and then progress toward degree issues and certification issues due to lack of compliance staff in athletics and academic side of campus.

Your statement might hold some weight about him wanting more pay but there is no way he did not have any knowledge of what was going on. The football team is taking the majority of the hit here. He had a guy who was not enrolled in the school playing. A is the big one, now he might not of been aware of that one, But having players on your team not certified is a problem.....

1. Probation: Two years of probation from October 16, 2018 through October 15, 2020. 16 2. Financial penalty: The institution shall pay a fine of $5,000 plus one-half of one percent of the athletics department budget to the NCAA.17 3. Scholarship reductions:

2. During the 2019-20 and 2020-21 academic years, CSU shall reduce by a total of 10 percent the amount of grants-in-aid awarded in the football program. The reductions shall be based on the average amount of aid awarded in the football program over the past four academic years, which CSU reported to be 60.13 equivalencies.

3. Therefore, CSU shall reduce football equivalencies by a total of six equivalencies and shall not exceed 57.13 equivalencies for the 2019-20 and 2020-21 academic years.

The institution and enforcement staff agree that during the 2011-12 through 2016- 17 academic years, the institution improperly certified as eligible for practice and/or competition 55 student-athletes in 12 sports.
As a result, the student athletes practiced, competed, received athletically related financial aid and/or received actual and necessary expenses while ineligible or improperly certified. Specifically: a. During the 2011-12 through 2014-15 academic years, the institution permitted 33 student-athletes to practice, compete and receive actual and necessary expenses prior to verifying the student-athletes had received final academic and amateurism certification from the Eligibility Center.

a. During the 2011-12 through 2014-15 academic years, the institution permitted 33 student-athletes to practice, compete and receive actual and necessary expenses prior to verifying the student-athletes had received final academic and amateurism certification from the Eligibility Center. [NCAA Constitution 3.2.4.3 and NCAA Bylaws 14.10.1 and 16.8.1.2 (2011-12 and 2012-13);
12.1.1.1.3 and 14.01.1 (2011-12 through 2014-15).

b. During the 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2016-17 academic years, six two-year college transfer student-athletes who were qualifiers, competed and received actual and necessary expenses while ineligible due to not successfully meeting applicable transfer eligibility requirements. [NCAA Bylaws 14.10.1 (2013-14); 14.5.4.1 and 16.8.1 (2013-14, 2014-15 and 2016-17); and 12.11.1 (2014-15 and 2016-17)] c. Between the 2013-14 and 2014-15 academic years, one student-athlete practiced and received athletically related financial aid and one studentathlete practiced, competed and received actual and necessary expenses while certified as nonqualifiers. [NCAA Bylaws 14.10.1 (2013-14) and 14.3.2.1.1, 15.01.5 and 16.8.1(2013-14 and 2014-15)]

d. During the 2015 fall semester, two student-athletes competed and received actual and necessary expenses without having designated a program of studies leading toward a specific baccalaureate degree program at the beginning of their fifth semester of enrollment. [NCAA Bylaws 12.11.1, 14.4.3.2 and 16.8.1(2015-16)]

e. During the 2015 fall semester, one four-year college transfer student-athlete competed and received actual and necessary expenses in his first year in residence at the institution, without having satisfied any four-year transfer exception. [NCAA Bylaws 12.11.1, 14.5.5.1, 16.8.1(2015-16)]

f. During the 2012, 2013 and 2015 fall semesters, one student-athlete practiced and competed and three student-athletes practiced, competed and received actual and necessary expenses without maintaining enrollment in a minimum full-time program of studies leading to a baccalaureate or equivalent degree. [NCAA Bylaws 14.11.1 and 16.8.1.2 (2012-13); 14.1.7.1 and 14.1.7.2, (2012- 13 and 2013-14); 14.10.1 (2013-14); 16.8.1 (2013-14 and 2015-16); and 12.11.1, 14.2.1 and 14.2.2 (2015-16)]

g. During the 2012-13 through 2014-15 academic years, seven student-athletes competed and received actual and necessary expenses while ineligible due to not successfully meeting the percentage-of-degree requirements. [NCAA Bylaws 14.11.1 and 16.8.1.2 (2012-13); 14.4.3.2 (2012-13 through 2014-15); 14.10.1 (2013-14); 12.11.1 (2014-15); and 16.8.1 (2013-14 and 2014-15)]

h. During the 2015 fall semester, one football student-athlete competed and received actual and necessary expenses during the first four contests while ineligible due to not successfully completing at least nine-semester hours during the 2014 fall semester. [NCAA Bylaws 12.11.1, 14.4.3.1.6 and 16.8.1

[Rekdiver]

So these little guys get popped yet UNC gets nothing..............

[Yosef84]

If only CSU had $18 million to pour into a defense fund

[ASU84]

If only CSU had $18 million to pour into a defense fund

Quote me as one who is glad they don't have that kind of money to flash and spend frivolously.

[Cro-Magnon App]

UNC screwed up. The NCAA had to make a stand and put somebody on probation. CSU just happened to be holding the bag. If Duke plays Zion and he is ruled intelligible later, I'd be watching out if I were NC Central or Austin Peay or Presbyterian or .... Somebody will go down for Duke's screwup.