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WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:51 pm
by ASU-FTW
Below is an excerpt from a Q&A between Western's fan and Randy Eaton, Western's AD.
Jim asks: With Appalachian State, Georgia Southern and College of Charleston leaving the SOCON, where does this leave WCU’s football program for the future? Is this the death nail for the Southern Conference? Will WCU now look to the future of moving up to the FBS? Also, Elon is rumored to be looking at the Colonial Athletic Conference, so why would we want to remain FCS and not join the in-state FBS schools such as Appalachian, UNCC, Wake Forest, NC State and UNC?
Where does this leave WCU’s football program is dependent on how the Chancellors and Presidents of current member institutions vote on expansion. Losing ASU as a rival does sting, but fifteen years ago when Marshall left for “bigger and better”, the same fear of a weaker SOCON was prevalent. However, I would argue the SOCON is stronger today than when Marshall was a member. Do I think the SOCON will die? No. It’s probably older than either you or I, and if you will do some homework, you will see many ACC and SEC members are SOCON alum, so I do believe the SOCON is here to stay. Will we look to the FBS? No, why would we? ASU and Georgia Southern will now play New Mexico State, Idaho and North Texas, among others, on a regular basis. Is that really who you want to watch? I would much prefer to have strong, regional competition to which our fans and families can travel. Ask a Marshall fan how they feel fifteen years later, the vast majority of them I spoke with at last year’s game still long for the days of SOCON membership! As far as joining the in-state FBS, remember, you must be asked to join, we as an institution cannot simply decide to invite ourselves. And finally, let’s not forget the all important dollar. Georgia Southern is estimating an additional $6 million in expenses associated with joining the Sun Belt. Trust me when I tell you they will receive a fraction of that amount from the Sun Belt, the balance will be paid by the institution or placed on the backs of the students in the form of higher fees. In a time when Athletics has been tasked with helping the University grow its’ undergraduate enrollment, increasing fees is counterproductive to that goal.
I'll give him props for attempting to spin our move into a negative, and portray Western's inability to make such a move as a positive. But, I would have much rather enjoyed him flat out saying "Jim, what are you smoking? There is no way in hell we can move up!" Possibly file this response with the Delawhere? AD's in the sour grapes category.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:02 pm
by Rekdiver
Well I read between the lines.......

" We can't afford to move up even if we were invited, which given the lack of athletic success we've enjoyed, i'm not sure who would invite us anyway" Then the favorite words we all like to hear..."Trust me".....

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:07 pm
by hapapp
ASU and Georgia Southern will now play New Mexico State, Idaho and North Texas, among others, on a regular basis.

Last I looked North Texas is not in the Sun Belt and we won't play NMSU and Idaho on a regular basis.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:10 pm
by RankinApp
Do I think the SOCON will die? No. It’s probably older than either you or I..
Is he not sure? :lol:

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:21 pm
by WataugaMan
For a second there I thought he was going to say boycott App. :lol:

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:13 pm
by Appsolutely
"However, I would argue the SOCON is stronger today than when Marshall was a member."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:18 pm
by Gonzo
The Southern Conference: Declining in prestige since 1932.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:22 pm
by Kgfish
Appsolutely wrote:"However, I would argue the SOCON is stronger today than when Marshall was a member."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Football aside, he needs to research the SoCon basketball tournaments when ETSU's and Marshall's fans filled up the arena.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:28 am
by JTApps1
Appsolutely wrote:"However, I would argue the SOCON is stronger today than when Marshall was a member."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't remember any of the schools that have joined the SoCon since Marshall left making it to a Championship game much less winning. Only one of them won the basketball tournament, and none of them put 20,000+ in the stands for football. Small time thinking at its best.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:07 pm
by appelect
Wow...this guy is clueless!!

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:50 pm
by GoAppsGo92
appelect wrote:Wow...this guy is clueless!!
When you can't be with the one you love... love the one you're with.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:37 pm
by Robert Norton
Remember, this guy had a hand, as a Ass AD, in leading Maryland to new lows and losses. He will sing a much different tune in 2014 when we are not on their home schedule. Speir says they see about about a $70,000 bump when we come. That is very low. Usually they charge $15-$20 more for our game and I would say we buy from 3,000-5,000 each year. $105,000-$175,000. Makes the name Cants very relevant for them.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:49 pm
by AtlAppMan
Let's analyze this part of his statement "you will see many ACC and SEC members are SOCON alum". Now add ASU and GSU. Look at all the schools that have left the SOCON and tell me if we are in good company.

I believe I would rather be in the group that left that the ones that have stayed.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:14 pm
by AppAttack
Why would we even listen to what WCU 's AD thinks? Meaningless & irrelevant.

Re: WCU AD Response to FBS Move

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:50 pm
by TheMoody1
The only thing I care less about than what this clown thinks is playing UNCC in any sport.