PAC-12 melt down

[Saint3333]

I missed the memo when the AAC was a power conference…

[appdaze]

I've always had mixed feelings about relegation-style leagues. On one hand, there would always be exciting ball as everyone is duking it out for league championships and the ability to move up. On the other hand, the current top 10 money bag teams would never drop out of the top league and the lower league teams would have a worse chance to get in the biggest games than they do now.

[Tru2ASU]

I like doomsday scenarios. What if Cal/Stanford gets voted down, 4-6 teams leave for SEC/Big Ten, what happens to the ACC then, and what teams would they look at as potential replacements?

[Saint3333]

Need the PAC4 to figure out their situation before the ACC implodes, other those four join the remaining 8-10 ACC programs and we have the power two and two in the second tier (PACC and BIG12). Then those four break away (which seems closer to reality everyday).

[AppSt94]

I don’t dislike the relegation piece. But I have questions. This is obviously football centric so how does this affect the other sports in terms of scheduling and budgets?

[spacemonkey]

This is my good news situation/outcome. The BIG and SEC resume the Rose bowl championship. And everyone else is locked out. The leftover teams /conferences make their own rules and it is worthy of interest and we get a 16 team playoff with divisional Champs making the playoffs.

[AppStFan1]

I don’t dislike the relegation piece. But I have questions. This is obviously football centric so how does this affect the other sports in terms of scheduling and budgets?

It will never happen because the P5 programs would just leave the NCAA instead of risking being dropped down for a bad year. You bring up a good point as well about how it effects other sports but none of the realignment so far has considered effects on other sports. Every single decision so far has been 100% about football.

[Stonewall]

Visiting teams stay in ...Hickory.Have for awhile.

Liazzos catering out of the convention center has fed some of the visiting teams if I remember right.

Football teams rent out the Hickory Convention Center for meals , meetings and walk throughs.Everything is catered in and they have plenty of hotel rooms within a block or two.I think you are right about Liazzos as I recall.

[spacemonkey]

Back to pack 12 meltdown. We are truly ruining college athletics. Powers that be are catering to the Walmart fans instead of the students/alumni. Students and Alumni want to play close by teams for two reasons. Water cooler talk Monday morning and to be able to drive to away games. I really hope our situation does not change for the rest of my life unless it is a ECU addition to the Sunbelt or some kind of east break away with the addition of Wake, Charlotte, ECU. I am hesitant on Wake because they will not be happy with that situation and they are private. I would like to stay in a conference with public universities. These new conferences are just sad for Texas, Oklahoma, USCali, Washington, Oregon and UCLA. We are about to see some very unhappy fan bases. I hope UNC joins one of them and they go 4-8 for the next 30 years and go 11-11 in basketball for the next 30 years. If I were buying college sports like stocks, I would be shorting college football at this point...and probably basketball. I would be buying College Soccer.

[MrCraig]

Back to pack 12 meltdown. We are truly ruining college athletics. Powers that be are catering to the Walmart fans instead of the students/alumni. Students and Alumni want to play close by teams for two reasons. Water cooler talk Monday morning and to be able to drive to away games. I really hope our situation does not change for the rest of my life unless it is a ECU addition to the Sunbelt or some kind of east break away with the addition of Wake, Charlotte, ECU. I am hesitant on Wake because they will not be happy with that situation and they are private. I would like to stay in a conference with public universities. These new conferences are just sad for Texas, Oklahoma, USCali, Washington, Oregon and UCLA. We are about to see some very unhappy fan bases. I hope UNC joins one of them and they go 4-8 for the next 30 years and go 11-11 in basketball for the next 30 years. If I were buying college sports like stocks, I would be shorting college football at this point...and probably basketball. I would be buying College Soccer.

Love him or hate him, Drinkwitz was spot on in his press conference when asked about realignment. Everyone making the decisions is only seeing dollar signs. No one is thinking about the girls on the softball team at Rutgers who will have to fly to Los Angeles in the middle of the week and still be expected to keep their grades up. No one is considering what the cost to fly the track team halfway across the country 2-3 times a year. No one is considering the mental and physical toll these super conferences will have on athletes, especially athletes of "secondary" sports like baseball, softball, wrestling, soccer, etc.

[BambooRdApp]

Back to pack 12 meltdown. We are truly ruining college athletics. Powers that be are catering to the Walmart fans instead of the students/alumni. Students and Alumni want to play close by teams for two reasons. Water cooler talk Monday morning and to be able to drive to away games. I really hope our situation does not change for the rest of my life unless it is a ECU addition to the Sunbelt or some kind of east break away with the addition of Wake, Charlotte, ECU. I am hesitant on Wake because they will not be happy with that situation and they are private. I would like to stay in a conference with public universities. These new conferences are just sad for Texas, Oklahoma, USCali, Washington, Oregon and UCLA. We are about to see some very unhappy fan bases. I hope UNC joins one of them and they go 4-8 for the next 30 years and go 11-11 in basketball for the next 30 years. If I were buying college sports like stocks, I would be shorting college football at this point...and probably basketball. I would be buying College Soccer.

Love him or hate him, Drinkwitz was spot on in his press conference when asked about realignment. Everyone making the decisions is only seeing dollar signs. No one is thinking about the girls on the softball team at Rutgers who will have to fly to Los Angeles in the middle of the week and still be expected to keep their grades up. No one is considering what the cost to fly the track team halfway across the country 2-3 times a year. No one is considering the mental and physical toll these super conferences will have on athletes, especially athletes of "secondary" sports like baseball, softball, wrestling, soccer, etc.

Not sure how it will occur.... football...and basketball, in some form, needs to break off separately in conference affiliation. Realize easier said than done...but needs to be addressed in some form or fashion.

[Saint3333]

Back to pack 12 meltdown. We are truly ruining college athletics. Powers that be are catering to the Walmart fans instead of the students/alumni. Students and Alumni want to play close by teams for two reasons. Water cooler talk Monday morning and to be able to drive to away games. I really hope our situation does not change for the rest of my life unless it is a ECU addition to the Sunbelt or some kind of east break away with the addition of Wake, Charlotte, ECU. I am hesitant on Wake because they will not be happy with that situation and they are private. I would like to stay in a conference with public universities. These new conferences are just sad for Texas, Oklahoma, USCali, Washington, Oregon and UCLA. We are about to see some very unhappy fan bases. I hope UNC joins one of them and they go 4-8 for the next 30 years and go 11-11 in basketball for the next 30 years. If I were buying college sports like stocks, I would be shorting college football at this point...and probably basketball. I would be buying College Soccer.

Love him or hate him, Drinkwitz was spot on in his press conference when asked about realignment. Everyone making the decisions is only seeing dollar signs. No one is thinking about the girls on the softball team at Rutgers who will have to fly to Los Angeles in the middle of the week and still be expected to keep their grades up. No one is considering what the cost to fly the track team halfway across the country 2-3 times a year. No one is considering the mental and physical toll these super conferences will have on athletes, especially athletes of "secondary" sports like baseball, softball, wrestling, soccer, etc.

I agree with what he said, but he doesn't apply this to his own life. Drink is an intelligent human being, but also a narcissist, perfect for 2-3 year stints along his career.

[appdaze]

[BeauFoster]

That has the potential to hurt big time, especially if some of the eastern schools (re: UNCC and ECU) are included. Or I guess there’s also the potential that some of the east schools get left out and end up having to find another home (CUSA? Sun Belt?).

[huskie3]

Notre Dame pretty much has the model: FB indie everything else in acc.
Or take a look at APP, how many conferences are we in?

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Back to pack 12 meltdown. We are truly ruining college athletics. Powers that be are catering to the Walmart fans instead of the students/alumni. Students and Alumni want to play close by teams for two reasons. Water cooler talk Monday morning and to be able to drive to away games. I really hope our situation does not change for the rest of my life unless it is a ECU addition to the Sunbelt or some kind of east break away with the addition of Wake, Charlotte, ECU. I am hesitant on Wake because they will not be happy with that situation and they are private. I would like to stay in a conference with public universities. These new conferences are just sad for Texas, Oklahoma, USCali, Washington, Oregon and UCLA. We are about to see some very unhappy fan bases. I hope UNC joins one of them and they go 4-8 for the next 30 years and go 11-11 in basketball for the next 30 years. If I were buying college sports like stocks, I would be shorting college football at this point...and probably basketball. I would be buying College Soccer.

Love him or hate him, Drinkwitz was spot on in his press conference when asked about realignment. Everyone making the decisions is only seeing dollar signs. No one is thinking about the girls on the softball team at Rutgers who will have to fly to Los Angeles in the middle of the week and still be expected to keep their grades up. No one is considering what the cost to fly the track team halfway across the country 2-3 times a year. No one is considering the mental and physical toll these super conferences will have on athletes, especially athletes of "secondary" sports like baseball, softball, wrestling, soccer, etc.

I agree with what he said, but he doesn't apply this to his own life. Drink is an intelligent human being, but also a narcissist, perfect for 2-3 year stints along his career.

And his salary is very much there due to all the money grabs by the powers that be. Is he willing to take a pay cut to FCS level salaries I wonder?

[AppStFan1]

Back to pack 12 meltdown. We are truly ruining college athletics. Powers that be are catering to the Walmart fans instead of the students/alumni. Students and Alumni want to play close by teams for two reasons. Water cooler talk Monday morning and to be able to drive to away games. I really hope our situation does not change for the rest of my life unless it is a ECU addition to the Sunbelt or some kind of east break away with the addition of Wake, Charlotte, ECU. I am hesitant on Wake because they will not be happy with that situation and they are private. I would like to stay in a conference with public universities. These new conferences are just sad for Texas, Oklahoma, USCali, Washington, Oregon and UCLA. We are about to see some very unhappy fan bases. I hope UNC joins one of them and they go 4-8 for the next 30 years and go 11-11 in basketball for the next 30 years. If I were buying college sports like stocks, I would be shorting college football at this point...and probably basketball. I would be buying College Soccer.

Love him or hate him, Drinkwitz was spot on in his press conference when asked about realignment. Everyone making the decisions is only seeing dollar signs. No one is thinking about the girls on the softball team at Rutgers who will have to fly to Los Angeles in the middle of the week and still be expected to keep their grades up. No one is considering what the cost to fly the track team halfway across the country 2-3 times a year. No one is considering the mental and physical toll these super conferences will have on athletes, especially athletes of "secondary" sports like baseball, softball, wrestling, soccer, etc.

I agree with what he said, but he doesn't apply this to his own life. Drink is an intelligent human being, but also a narcissist, perfect for 2-3 year stints along his career.

And his salary is very much there due to all the money grabs by the powers that be. Is he willing to take a pay cut to FCS level salaries I wonder?

Exactly. We all know that answer. Drink was not wrong but he is also a hypocrite. We have seen what he is as a head coach when he isn't given a top 25 talent team to work with.

[appdaze]

[Captain Morgan]

wonder if ECU is one of them? If so, their fanbase won't be happy flying to the left coast for meaningless games.

If not, Sun Belt is their best option.

[BambooRdApp]

wonder if ECU is one of them? If so, their fanbase won't be happy flying to the left coast for meaningless games.

If not, Sun Belt is their best option.

Highly doubt Easy U in the four.
If I had to guess...smu, south Florida, Memphis and Tulsa.
Or sub Tulsa for FAU
I would think for TV markets... EasyU is not a big TV market