March Madness

[Stonewall]

State is , once again, trying to get out of their contractual commitment to play football in Boone , by the way.

Heard rumors of that a couple years ago, game is next year, what are they offering in return?

A reschedule to a future date.

We know how that will end. Make them play before the NIL further divides the haves from the have nots.

At this point we have said “ no “.

[CoachRob]

I have no lost love for nc state. I enjoyed every moment of them losing on national tv. Their fan base is honestly the worst in NC when it comes to arrogance with nothing to back it. My hot take is they are a mid major program masquerading as P4 and need to get over themselves

Ehh, no reason to be that butthurt over nc state. Fans aren't that bad. That are certainly not a mid major, that's just a dumb take. When it comes down to a final four or a championship of some type I always pull for a NC school, unless it's UNC.

When you look at their success, or lack thereof, over the past 30 years in all sports, they are very mid major: Last football conference championship is 1979 I think. Hadn't won ACC basketball tourney since 87 before this year & last regular season since 74 I think. Baseball is the only thing that has been relevant on a national scale and that's just of recent.
When measuring success compared to their in state ACC foes, they are very mid major.

Their men's basketball program is one of 15 with 2 or more championships. Ehh whatever, I'm not gonna argue over a sports team that's not App. I guess yall can just stay gaping butthurt over NCSU for whatever reason. Whenever App isn't playing in big games I will still pull for most NC teams as them winning helps our states profile.

I totally get the idea of pulling for in state schools to help our state's profile, I do as well at times.
I don't think that changes the argument that, based on national/conference success in the past 30 years, ncstate is pretty mid major. Don't have to be "butthurt" to acknowledge this fact.

[CoachRob]

I have no lost love for nc state. I enjoyed every moment of them losing on national tv. Their fan base is honestly the worst in NC when it comes to arrogance with nothing to back it. My hot take is they are a mid major program masquerading as P4 and need to get over themselves

-Signed, closet UNCheat fan

Bro….. I have a degree and football season tickets for App. WTF is this BS accusation?

They're probably closet state fans who are butthurt about losing their only chance to win a title for the next 30 years.

At least you aren’t a closet UNC fan. You’re just a UNC fan.

Say's the closet state fan ... or is it duke?

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

-Signed, closet UNCheat fan

Bro….. I have a degree and football season tickets for App. WTF is this BS accusation?

They're probably closet state fans who are butthurt about losing their only chance to win a title for the next 30 years.

At least you aren’t a closet UNC fan. You’re just a UNC fan.

Say's the closet state fan ... or is it duke?

I’d openly pull for either against UNC. But you don’t have to be a fan of either to do that.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I have no lost love for nc state. I enjoyed every moment of them losing on national tv. Their fan base is honestly the worst in NC when it comes to arrogance with nothing to back it. My hot take is they are a mid major program masquerading as P4 and need to get over themselves

Ehh, no reason to be that butthurt over nc state. Fans aren't that bad. That are certainly not a mid major, that's just a dumb take. When it comes down to a final four or a championship of some type I always pull for a NC school, unless it's UNC.

When you look at their success, or lack thereof, over the past 30 years in all sports, they are very mid major: Last football conference championship is 1979 I think. Hadn't won ACC basketball tourney since 87 before this year & last regular season since 74 I think. Baseball is the only thing that has been relevant on a national scale and that's just of recent.
When measuring success compared to their in state ACC foes, they are very mid major.

Their men's basketball program is one of 15 with 2 or more championships. Ehh whatever, I'm not gonna argue over a sports team that's not App. I guess yall can just stay gaping butthurt over NCSU for whatever reason. Whenever App isn't playing in big games I will still pull for most NC teams as them winning helps our states profile.

I totally get the idea of pulling for in state schools to help our state's profile, I do as well at times.
I don't think that changes the argument that, based on national/conference success in the past 30 years, ncstate is pretty mid major. Don't have to be "butthurt" to acknowledge this fact.

Mid major is designated by conference is it not? Even Georgia Tech and BC are not mid major. Declaring a major conference member mid major reeks of butthurtness.

[CoachRob]

Ehh, no reason to be that butthurt over nc state. Fans aren't that bad. That are certainly not a mid major, that's just a dumb take. When it comes down to a final four or a championship of some type I always pull for a NC school, unless it's UNC.

When you look at their success, or lack thereof, over the past 30 years in all sports, they are very mid major: Last football conference championship is 1979 I think. Hadn't won ACC basketball tourney since 87 before this year & last regular season since 74 I think. Baseball is the only thing that has been relevant on a national scale and that's just of recent.
When measuring success compared to their in state ACC foes, they are very mid major.

Their men's basketball program is one of 15 with 2 or more championships. Ehh whatever, I'm not gonna argue over a sports team that's not App. I guess yall can just stay gaping butthurt over NCSU for whatever reason. Whenever App isn't playing in big games I will still pull for most NC teams as them winning helps our states profile.

I totally get the idea of pulling for in state schools to help our state's profile, I do as well at times.
I don't think that changes the argument that, based on national/conference success in the past 30 years, ncstate is pretty mid major. Don't have to be "butthurt" to acknowledge this fact.

Mid major is designated by conference is it not? Even Georgia Tech and BC are not mid major. Declaring a major conference member mid major reeks of butthurtness.

Like lipstick on a pig, being part of a power conference doesn't make 1 a power program.
Example, in football, who has accomplished more? App or State?

[goapps93]

When you look at their success, or lack thereof, over the past 30 years in all sports, they are very mid major: Last football conference championship is 1979 I think. Hadn't won ACC basketball tourney since 87 before this year & last regular season since 74 I think. Baseball is the only thing that has been relevant on a national scale and that's just of recent.
When measuring success compared to their in state ACC foes, they are very mid major.

Their men's basketball program is one of 15 with 2 or more championships. Ehh whatever, I'm not gonna argue over a sports team that's not App. I guess yall can just stay gaping butthurt over NCSU for whatever reason. Whenever App isn't playing in big games I will still pull for most NC teams as them winning helps our states profile.

I totally get the idea of pulling for in state schools to help our state's profile, I do as well at times.
I don't think that changes the argument that, based on national/conference success in the past 30 years, ncstate is pretty mid major. Don't have to be "butthurt" to acknowledge this fact.

Mid major is designated by conference is it not? Even Georgia Tech and BC are not mid major. Declaring a major conference member mid major reeks of butthurtness.

Like lipstick on a pig, being part of a power conference doesn't make 1 a power program.
Example, in football, who has accomplished more? App or State?

Actually, it does. And App accomplishing more doesn’t make us a power program, unfortunately.

[311neers]

18.7M viewers for Caitlin Clark yesterday.

More than the previous 5 years for the men’s final. I’m sure it will smoke the game tonight since it’s at 9pm.

[Bootsy]

South Carolina may have won the national championship, but womens' college basketball has been the biggest winner of all. It's cool how interest in 1-2 outstanding players can be the tipping point.

It won't be long before everyone is whining and complaining that they're tired of hearing about the awesomeness of the Lady Gamecocks on ESPN.

[Saint3333]

90% of the people that watched couldn’t name one gamecock player before yesterday.

[CoachRob]

Their men's basketball program is one of 15 with 2 or more championships. Ehh whatever, I'm not gonna argue over a sports team that's not App. I guess yall can just stay gaping butthurt over NCSU for whatever reason. Whenever App isn't playing in big games I will still pull for most NC teams as them winning helps our states profile.

I totally get the idea of pulling for in state schools to help our state's profile, I do as well at times.
I don't think that changes the argument that, based on national/conference success in the past 30 years, ncstate is pretty mid major. Don't have to be "butthurt" to acknowledge this fact.

Mid major is designated by conference is it not? Even Georgia Tech and BC are not mid major. Declaring a major conference member mid major reeks of butthurtness.

Like lipstick on a pig, being part of a power conference doesn't make 1 a power program.
Example, in football, who has accomplished more? App or State?

Actually, it does. And App accomplishing more doesn’t make us a power program, unfortunately.

disagree. Perception is reality or something like that is the saying? Many "power" programs have a mid-major perception.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I totally get the idea of pulling for in state schools to help our state's profile, I do as well at times.
I don't think that changes the argument that, based on national/conference success in the past 30 years, ncstate is pretty mid major. Don't have to be "butthurt" to acknowledge this fact.

Mid major is designated by conference is it not? Even Georgia Tech and BC are not mid major. Declaring a major conference member mid major reeks of butthurtness.

Like lipstick on a pig, being part of a power conference doesn't make 1 a power program.
Example, in football, who has accomplished more? App or State?

Actually, it does. And App accomplishing more doesn’t make us a power program, unfortunately.

disagree. Perception is reality or something like that is the saying? Many "power" programs have a mid-major perception.

Although you are certainly entitled to your opinion, in this instance, your opinion is factually wrong. Mid-major is factually defined as athletic conferences in NCAA division I basketball that are not part of the power 5 conferences and the Big East, sometime last referred to as the Power 6. Gonzaga, even with all their success, is factually a mid-major. The NCAA actually recognizes this distinction in the NIT selection process. They state that the top 2 teams from each Power 6 conference get an automatic bid to the NIT. It was Wake and BC from the ACC. They are therefore not considered mid-major, despite their lack of national success in basketball, football or baseballs.

[BallantyneApp]

When you look at their success, or lack thereof, over the past 30 years in all sports, they are very mid major: Last football conference championship is 1979 I think. Hadn't won ACC basketball tourney since 87 before this year & last regular season since 74 I think. Baseball is the only thing that has been relevant on a national scale and that's just of recent.
When measuring success compared to their in state ACC foes, they are very mid major.

Their men's basketball program is one of 15 with 2 or more championships. Ehh whatever, I'm not gonna argue over a sports team that's not App. I guess yall can just stay gaping butthurt over NCSU for whatever reason. Whenever App isn't playing in big games I will still pull for most NC teams as them winning helps our states profile.

I totally get the idea of pulling for in state schools to help our state's profile, I do as well at times.
I don't think that changes the argument that, based on national/conference success in the past 30 years, ncstate is pretty mid major. Don't have to be "butthurt" to acknowledge this fact.

Mid major is designated by conference is it not? Even Georgia Tech and BC are not mid major. Declaring a major conference member mid major reeks of butthurtness.

Like lipstick on a pig, being part of a power conference doesn't make 1 a power program.
Example, in football, who has accomplished more? App or State?

Major/mid major is based on the conference, not the achievement of the team.


Unc is still a p5 football team, even though despite their rampant cheating they’ve mostly been pedestrian.

It is what it is. Nc state is in a major cbb bball conference.

[BUTCH1991]

We're looking for the word mediocre, not mid major.

[CoachRob]

Mid major is designated by conference is it not? Even Georgia Tech and BC are not mid major. Declaring a major conference member mid major reeks of butthurtness.

Like lipstick on a pig, being part of a power conference doesn't make 1 a power program.
Example, in football, who has accomplished more? App or State?

Actually, it does. And App accomplishing more doesn’t make us a power program, unfortunately.

disagree. Perception is reality or something like that is the saying? Many "power" programs have a mid-major perception.

Although you are certainly entitled to your opinion, in this instance, your opinion is factually wrong. Mid-major is factually defined as athletic conferences in NCAA division I basketball that are not part of the power 5 conferences and the Big East, sometime last referred to as the Power 6. Gonzaga, even with all their success, is factually a mid-major. The NCAA actually recognizes this distinction in the NIT selection process. They state that the top 2 teams from each Power 6 conference get an automatic bid to the NIT. It was Wake and BC from the ACC. They are therefore not considered mid-major, despite their lack of national success in basketball, football or baseballs.

In conference name, sure. But in performance (which is what I'm arguing, but I think you know this), no. Their performance on the court over the past 30 years has been very mid-major, just stating truth.

If you would like to keep on arguing for the greatness that is nc state basketball, by all means, keep doing so.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Like lipstick on a pig, being part of a power conference doesn't make 1 a power program.
Example, in football, who has accomplished more? App or State?

Actually, it does. And App accomplishing more doesn’t make us a power program, unfortunately.

disagree. Perception is reality or something like that is the saying? Many "power" programs have a mid-major perception.

Although you are certainly entitled to your opinion, in this instance, your opinion is factually wrong. Mid-major is factually defined as athletic conferences in NCAA division I basketball that are not part of the power 5 conferences and the Big East, sometime last referred to as the Power 6. Gonzaga, even with all their success, is factually a mid-major. The NCAA actually recognizes this distinction in the NIT selection process. They state that the top 2 teams from each Power 6 conference get an automatic bid to the NIT. It was Wake and BC from the ACC. They are therefore not considered mid-major, despite their lack of national success in basketball, football or baseballs.

In conference name, sure. But in performance (which is what I'm arguing, but I think you know this), no. Their performance on the court over the past 30 years has been very mid-major, just stating truth.

If you would like to keep on arguing for the greatness that is nc state basketball, by all means, keep doing so.

They have been mediocre for past 30 years, but they are still a major program, which is fact. Speaking of performance, looks like they have out performed your Heels the past two seasons and understand your frustration. Who knew that when UNC stuck their middle finger up at the NCAA when they got busted for 30 years of fraud, that it would open the flood gates of everyone being able to legally pay their players taking away UNC’s competitive advantage.

[Rekdiver]

The only thing major about State is the loyal fans that pour money into an average program

[BambooRdApp]

There is another major thing about State .. Howling Cow ice cream is pretty damn good

[CoachRob]

Actually, it does. And App accomplishing more doesn’t make us a power program, unfortunately.

disagree. Perception is reality or something like that is the saying? Many "power" programs have a mid-major perception.

Although you are certainly entitled to your opinion, in this instance, your opinion is factually wrong. Mid-major is factually defined as athletic conferences in NCAA division I basketball that are not part of the power 5 conferences and the Big East, sometime last referred to as the Power 6. Gonzaga, even with all their success, is factually a mid-major. The NCAA actually recognizes this distinction in the NIT selection process. They state that the top 2 teams from each Power 6 conference get an automatic bid to the NIT. It was Wake and BC from the ACC. They are therefore not considered mid-major, despite their lack of national success in basketball, football or baseballs.

In conference name, sure. But in performance (which is what I'm arguing, but I think you know this), no. Their performance on the court over the past 30 years has been very mid-major, just stating truth.

If you would like to keep on arguing for the greatness that is nc state basketball, by all means, keep doing so.

They have been mediocre for past 30 years, but they are still a major program, which is fact. Speaking of performance, looks like they have out performed your Heels the past two seasons and understand your frustration. Who knew that when UNC stuck their middle finger up at the NCAA when they got busted for 30 years of fraud, that it would open the flood gates of everyone being able to legally pay their players taking away UNC’s competitive advantage.

Why do you keep bringing up the Heels when this discussion is purely about State & their mediocre as a program? No one has mentioned the Heels except you ... What is your obsession with Carolina? Why even bring them up when talking about this year's Final 4? Is it a jealousy thing? Or just obsessed with them??? I don't understand, maybe you should start charging instead of allowing them stay rent free ...

[Saint3333]

UNCheat fans hate when the decades of fraud is brought up.

There is no comeback and comments like rent free just make the deflection attempt worse.

Congrats to UConn the best modern era basketball program in the nation.