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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:51 pm

I happened to be at the UNCC website last night as I like to check in on our in-state frenemies once or twice a year, when we are not playing them.

It was noted they have yet to sell all of their UNC-CHeat tickets they have been allotted. Some of their posters even commented on how it would be a very bad look if they have to give tickets back given that App and ECU sold out (and I would add, likely picked up some from UNC-CHeat fans along the way.)

They are also not expecting much this year it would seem. Of course one has to play the game and things can turn around and players step up during the season but it sounds like they would be happy with 4 wins.
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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:37 pm

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I happened to be at the UNCC website last night as I like to check in on our in-state frenemies once or twice a year, when we are not playing them.

It was noted they have yet to sell all of their UNC-CHeat tickets they have been allotted. Some of their posters even commented on how it would be a very bad look if they have to give tickets back given that App and ECU sold out (and I would add, likely picked up some from UNC-CHeat fans along the way.)

They are also not expecting much this year it would seem. Of course one has to play the game and things can turn around and players step up during the season but it sounds like they would be happy with 4 wins.
They never have been able to sell much and don't have anywhere near the interest in their program that App and ECU both have. Not sure why they think it looks bad. It is almost like they think they are on the same footing as a program as App. They have a long way to go to be that since they have not been around that long and have had a lot of bad coaching.

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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:40 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:37 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:51 pm
I happened to be at the UNCC website last night as I like to check in on our in-state frenemies once or twice a year, when we are not playing them.

It was noted they have yet to sell all of their UNC-CHeat tickets they have been allotted. Some of their posters even commented on how it would be a very bad look if they have to give tickets back given that App and ECU sold out (and I would add, likely picked up some from UNC-CHeat fans along the way.)

They are also not expecting much this year it would seem. Of course one has to play the game and things can turn around and players step up during the season but it sounds like they would be happy with 4 wins.
They never have been able to sell much and don't have anywhere near the interest in their program that App and ECU both have. Not sure why they think it looks bad. It is almost like they think they are on the same footing as a program as App. They have a long way to go to be that since they have not been around that long and have had a lot of bad coaching.
Technically, they are right because Charlotte football is always a bad look.

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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:42 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:40 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:37 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:51 pm
I happened to be at the UNCC website last night as I like to check in on our in-state frenemies once or twice a year, when we are not playing them.

It was noted they have yet to sell all of their UNC-CHeat tickets they have been allotted. Some of their posters even commented on how it would be a very bad look if they have to give tickets back given that App and ECU sold out (and I would add, likely picked up some from UNC-CHeat fans along the way.)

They are also not expecting much this year it would seem. Of course one has to play the game and things can turn around and players step up during the season but it sounds like they would be happy with 4 wins.
They never have been able to sell much and don't have anywhere near the interest in their program that App and ECU both have. Not sure why they think it looks bad. It is almost like they think they are on the same footing as a program as App. They have a long way to go to be that since they have not been around that long and have had a lot of bad coaching.
Technically, they are right because Charlotte football is always a bad look.
My point is that is the usual for them. The way the post was worded made me think their fans think it looks bad this time but when has it ever looked good by them? I also don't spend one second of time to see what they think because all that matters is we play them some and kick their butts. They have a long way to go to be relevant in football and clearly all 6 of their fans should realize that.

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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:45 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:42 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:40 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:37 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:51 pm
I happened to be at the UNCC website last night as I like to check in on our in-state frenemies once or twice a year, when we are not playing them.

It was noted they have yet to sell all of their UNC-CHeat tickets they have been allotted. Some of their posters even commented on how it would be a very bad look if they have to give tickets back given that App and ECU sold out (and I would add, likely picked up some from UNC-CHeat fans along the way.)

They are also not expecting much this year it would seem. Of course one has to play the game and things can turn around and players step up during the season but it sounds like they would be happy with 4 wins.
They never have been able to sell much and don't have anywhere near the interest in their program that App and ECU both have. Not sure why they think it looks bad. It is almost like they think they are on the same footing as a program as App. They have a long way to go to be that since they have not been around that long and have had a lot of bad coaching.
Technically, they are right because Charlotte football is always a bad look.
My point is that is the usual for them. The way the post was worded made me think their fans think it looks bad this time but when has it ever looked good by them? I also don't spend one second of time to see what they think because all that matters is we play them some and kick their butts. They have a long way to go to be relevant in football and clearly all 6 of their fans should realize that.
Agree with you. Just wanted to get a dig in at their program.

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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:47 pm

True about their ticket sales. And I have no idea how many tickets they have to sale versus what was given to us but does 1500 sound correct? If they have 500 left over, as was mentioned, that is a lot of tickets percentage-wise. I know how Charlotte sells but even this surprised me.

Ironically, that might make them more attractive to play against UNC-CHeat as they are not bringing a crowd and getting in the way and not as much competition on the field. It will be interesting to see.
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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:14 pm

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True about their ticket sales. And I have no idea how many tickets they have to sale versus what was given to us but does 1500 sound correct? If they have 500 left over, as was mentioned, that is a lot of tickets percentage-wise. I know how Charlotte sells but even this surprised me.

Ironically, that might make them more attractive to play against UNC-CHeat as they are not bringing a crowd and getting in the way and not as much competition on the field. It will be interesting to see.
I'm not sure. They really should have stayed FCS and built the program into a power before moving up. They only average about 12,400 for home games. For a team coveted due to their TV market the fact they can't average 25,000 for home games is pretty bad. We average way more and we have often been overlooked for not being in a market.

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Unread post by Tru2ASU » Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:26 pm

Haven't seen it posted anywhere else, but they also hired Steve Wilks as an analyst.

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Unread post by RaleighApp27609 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:38 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:14 pm
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Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:47 pm
True about their ticket sales. And I have no idea how many tickets they have to sale versus what was given to us but does 1500 sound correct? If they have 500 left over, as was mentioned, that is a lot of tickets percentage-wise. I know how Charlotte sells but even this surprised me.

Ironically, that might make them more attractive to play against UNC-CHeat as they are not bringing a crowd and getting in the way and not as much competition on the field. It will be interesting to see.
I'm not sure. They really should have stayed FCS and built the program into a power before moving up. They only average about 12,400 for home games. For a team coveted due to their TV market the fact they can't average 25,000 for home games is pretty bad. We average way more and we have often been overlooked for not being in a market.
Isn't there a minimum required average home attendance to remain in FBS?

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Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:47 pm

They hired a lot of new players for the season .As to the game I would expect more blue that green in the stands.

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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:55 pm

RaleighApp27609 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:38 pm
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True about their ticket sales. And I have no idea how many tickets they have to sale versus what was given to us but does 1500 sound correct? If they have 500 left over, as was mentioned, that is a lot of tickets percentage-wise. I know how Charlotte sells but even this surprised me.

Ironically, that might make them more attractive to play against UNC-CHeat as they are not bringing a crowd and getting in the way and not as much competition on the field. It will be interesting to see.
I'm not sure. They really should have stayed FCS and built the program into a power before moving up. They only average about 12,400 for home games. For a team coveted due to their TV market the fact they can't average 25,000 for home games is pretty bad. We average way more and we have often been overlooked for not being in a market.
Isn't there a minimum required average home attendance to remain in FBS?
There use to be but the NCAA got rid of it in 2023. I was among those who thought we really needed to raise it but the NCAA did the wrong thing, as they often do, and got rid of it all together.

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2 ... s-programs

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Unread post by ASUGrad2014 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:19 pm

Reasons like this make me wonder why Spellman left to go there.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Unread post by 704App » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:45 pm

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Reasons like this make me wonder why Spellman left to go there.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
I think it's because he essentially became a coverage LB in the Star and wants to be a pass rusher.

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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by mountaineerman » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:41 pm

Well my nephew moved in today. He’s in for an engineering degree something we don’t have. Let that sink in where it may. Do we have that major?

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Well my nephew moved in today. He’s in for an engineering degree something we don’t have. Let that sink in where it may. Do we have that major?
Physics has an engineering physics dual degree program
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Unread post by kornegaylw » Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:51 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
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AppStFan1 wrote:
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True about their ticket sales. And I have no idea how many tickets they have to sale versus what was given to us but does 1500 sound correct? If they have 500 left over, as was mentioned, that is a lot of tickets percentage-wise. I know how Charlotte sells but even this surprised me.

Ironically, that might make them more attractive to play against UNC-CHeat as they are not bringing a crowd and getting in the way and not as much competition on the field. It will be interesting to see.
I'm not sure. They really should have stayed FCS and built the program into a power before moving up. They only average about 12,400 for home games. For a team coveted due to their TV market the fact they can't average 25,000 for home games is pretty bad. We average way more and we have often been overlooked for not being in a market.
Isn't there a minimum required average home attendance to remain in FBS?
There use to be but the NCAA got rid of it in 2023. I was among those who thought we really needed to raise it but the NCAA did the wrong thing, as they often do, and got rid of it all together.

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2 ... s-programs
They had to get rid of it b/c cameras don't lie for rich teams like SMU...all the money in the world but no fan willing to sit in the stands and watch their games. Same goes for plenty of other teams

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Re: Charlotte FB

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:09 pm

kornegaylw wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:51 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:55 pm
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Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:38 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:14 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:47 pm
True about their ticket sales. And I have no idea how many tickets they have to sale versus what was given to us but does 1500 sound correct? If they have 500 left over, as was mentioned, that is a lot of tickets percentage-wise. I know how Charlotte sells but even this surprised me.

Ironically, that might make them more attractive to play against UNC-CHeat as they are not bringing a crowd and getting in the way and not as much competition on the field. It will be interesting to see.
I'm not sure. They really should have stayed FCS and built the program into a power before moving up. They only average about 12,400 for home games. For a team coveted due to their TV market the fact they can't average 25,000 for home games is pretty bad. We average way more and we have often been overlooked for not being in a market.
Isn't there a minimum required average home attendance to remain in FBS?
There use to be but the NCAA got rid of it in 2023. I was among those who thought we really needed to raise it but the NCAA did the wrong thing, as they often do, and got rid of it all together.

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2 ... s-programs
They had to get rid of it b/c cameras don't lie for rich teams like SMU...all the money in the world but no fan willing to sit in the stands and watch their games. Same goes for plenty of other teams
They average over 22,000 so they would be fine. If they are worried about them looking so bad then the ACC never should have invited them. I do think they will do like App and see a bump in moving up to a higher conference. I would expect SMU to average over 25,000 with their new schedule.

Those most affected would have been MAC and CUSA which would have lost several teams each along with Charlotte and a few couple Sun Belt schools that would have had to go.

Here is the list where you can sort for 2023, 2022, and a 5-year average: https://www.d1ticker.com/2023-fbs-attendance-trends/

There is a row for capacity of stadium and App State is #1 averaging over 115% of capacity. 25 FBS schools average 100% or over on capacity.

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Unread post by MAD Doctor » Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:58 am

Charlotte FB = Oxymoron. A nice airport doesn't put you in the SEC if your coach looks like a drunk Paulie from Rocky, and you can't draw flies to your game.
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Unread post by ASU84 » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:03 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:14 pm
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True about their ticket sales. And I have no idea how many tickets they have to sale versus what was given to us but does 1500 sound correct? If they have 500 left over, as was mentioned, that is a lot of tickets percentage-wise. I know how Charlotte sells but even this surprised me.

Ironically, that might make them more attractive to play against UNC-CHeat as they are not bringing a crowd and getting in the way and not as much competition on the field. It will be interesting to see.
I'm not sure. They really should have stayed FCS and built the program into a power before moving up. They only average about 12,400 for home games. For a team coveted due to their TV market the fact they can't average 25,000 for home games is pretty bad. We average way more and we have often been overlooked for not being in a market.
They average 12,400 in home attendance? We have that many students that attend our games. And nearly that many in season tickets!! :D :lol:

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Unread post by kornegaylw » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:53 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
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I'm not sure. They really should have stayed FCS and built the program into a power before moving up. They only average about 12,400 for home games. For a team coveted due to their TV market the fact they can't average 25,000 for home games is pretty bad. We average way more and we have often been overlooked for not being in a market.
Isn't there a minimum required average home attendance to remain in FBS?
There use to be but the NCAA got rid of it in 2023. I was among those who thought we really needed to raise it but the NCAA did the wrong thing, as they often do, and got rid of it all together.

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2 ... s-programs
They had to get rid of it b/c cameras don't lie for rich teams like SMU...all the money in the world but no fan willing to sit in the stands and watch their games. Same goes for plenty of other teams
They average over 22,000 so they would be fine. If they are worried about them looking so bad then the ACC never should have invited them. I do think they will do like App and see a bump in moving up to a higher conference. I would expect SMU to average over 25,000 with their new schedule.

Those most affected would have been MAC and CUSA which would have lost several teams each along with Charlotte and a few couple Sun Belt schools that would have had to go.

Here is the list where you can sort for 2023, 2022, and a 5-year average: https://www.d1ticker.com/2023-fbs-attendance-trends/

There is a row for capacity of stadium and App State is #1 averaging over 115% of capacity. 25 FBS schools average 100% or over on capacity.
SMU averages 22k in ticket sales. They do not have 22k butts in seats. Don't believe what you read, believe what you see...

I agree with your statement about CUSA and MAC schools.

Regarding KBS and our sales...I feel we are now in a position that Nebraska was in a few years ago. They had a record for consecutive home sellouts. The administration wanted to expand the stadium but weren't sure they could sellout the seats right away. They asked the fans and they came together and got the seats sold.

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