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Unread post by NewApp » Sun May 18, 2014 10:05 am

This is an excerpt from the Georgia State University website:

GSU is a commuter school with 61% of first-year students living off-campus and 17% of all undergraduates living on campus

I had never noticed a university labeling itself as a commuter school.



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Sun May 18, 2014 10:39 am

Overall GSU has 83% living off campus while App is at 63% and UNCC is at 75%.



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Unread post by NewApp » Sun May 18, 2014 10:52 am

TheMoody1 wrote:Overall GSU has 83% living off campus while App is at 63% and UNCC is at 75%.

Of course, as 17% from a hundred is 83%. Yet UNC-C doesn't call itself a commuter school, although many on this message board are locked into referring to it quite stereotypically. That was my point as simply that of self ascribed nomenclature.



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun May 18, 2014 12:31 pm

They should add another statistic, living on campus, living off campus, and living with your parents. The difference in App and the other two would be much greater.



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun May 18, 2014 4:48 pm

Living off campus is not a measure of a commuter school. It's how many are living at home or in an apartment near home and going to school. Like any of the community colleges.



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Unread post by NewApp » Sun May 18, 2014 6:54 pm

Saint3333 wrote:They should add another statistic, living on campus, living off campus, and living with your parents. The difference in App and the other two would be much greater.
What difference does it make if a student is living withy their parents or not? For many that is a cost savings that may have allowed them to go to college in the first place. For sure it is better than ECU padding its overall enrollment and coffers by offering on-line degrees. Some stats ECU puts out there concede the difference and others not so much. ECU is not the only one that does that, but simply offered up as quirk in statistics. UNC-C does similarly by offering a large number of students in who earned their first two years of study at CPCC then transferred in with very liberal admissions policies. App has many students who transfer in from community colleges but nothing in the realm of UNC-C's. Many of those students participate in student extra-curricular activities just as much as the 4 year undergrads at App as other colleges. With a football program now offered there, many more may involve themselves in that program as fans once and if it gets rolling, so to speak.
Having said that, I wouldn't trade the atmosphere and spirit of ASU with any of them, but just saying that being a commuter school doesn't totally inhibit school spirit and support.



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun May 18, 2014 8:14 pm

It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.



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Unread post by NewApp » Sun May 18, 2014 9:56 pm

Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.



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Unread post by NewApp » Sun May 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
BTW, I was talking about the college experience balanced with outside interests and endeavors. FWIW, I admire those who are able to balance a college experience with family life and community involvement.



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by appst89 » Mon May 19, 2014 4:16 am

NewApp wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.
Just curious as to why you immediately jumped to that conclusion when Saint mentioned the college experience? He said nothing about sex, drugs, and rock n' roll. He could just as easily have been talking about the opportunity to examine one's own beliefs and challenge oneself without the influence of parents. Perhaps you should have asked him before jumping to the most negative possible conclusion?



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by Gonzo » Mon May 19, 2014 7:39 am

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Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.
I agree that there is a whole lot more to the college experience than getting wasted and having sex all the time, but staying at moms house and then driving to UNCC is not a college experience



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon May 19, 2014 8:01 am

This new guy jumps to conclusions very fast, annoying.



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Unread post by Niner National » Mon May 19, 2014 8:33 am

TheMoody1 wrote:Overall GSU has 83% living off campus while App is at 63% and UNCC is at 75%.
The numbers don't always tell the whole story though. We have a higher % of students living on or within a mile of campus than Chapel Hill does.

I'm sure if you include students that live in housing just off campus, App is well over 50% too.

That is not the case at Georgia State. They are in downtown Atlanta and there is very little room for student housing. They're in a tough situation with their lack of land, but that could be remedied if they are allowed to buy Turner Field and build out their master plan. That is supposed to include a lot of student housing I believe.

I'm not going to lie and say Charlotte has the greatest college experience in the world, but it certainly isn't nearly as bad as some like to make it out to be. Most people I know that lived on or around campus and engaged themselves had a lot of fun and there is a lot more going on now than there ever was before. The campus is a bit disconnected from the city, but light rail will help that. As an urbanite myself, I've grown to loathe University City, but it is getting a little bit better. Decades of bad policy will take a long time to overcome though. The original master plan for the area that the city developed was to replicate a downtown on the roads surrounding campus, but the city quickly bent over and dropped their pants any time a developer wanted to build something. A real shame honestly. I often think about how differently the school might have developed if it had stayed in its original location on the fringes of Uptown (where CPCC-Central stands today) instead of moving way out into the suburbs. When someone offers you 1000 acres for free, I guess it is hard to say no though. Especially in an era when the popular thing to do was flee the inner city.
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon May 19, 2014 8:36 am

NewApp wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.
Hell - why go to college if not for the sex, drugs (alcohol only for me) and rock 'n roll - The 60's man - What were you thinking??? - I am just kidding, well not about my experiences :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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Unread post by NewApp » Mon May 19, 2014 12:07 pm

Saint3333 wrote:This new guy jumps to conclusions very fast, annoying.
Not a new guy. FWIW, I wasn't directing my comment directly to you. Instead just referring to the overall tenor of some people on this board who have voiced the opinion that one of the major reasons Cobb was so successful in the beginning was he drastically improved the availability of tail gating. The sex part of sex, drugs, and rock and roll is a cliché from the 80's. Too, one particular poster on this MMB stated quite clearly that UNC-CH has little game day experience, because you don't see a lot of bars near the campus like you do at our alma mater. That poster got several thumbs up on here when that was pointed out. Many even defended the ambience of the bar across from the entrance having such a tacky looking appearance by saying it was of no consequence since it was always packed inside and outside. I believe it is known as the Yukon Saloon.

My apologies if my wording was ambiguous and anybody, I mean anybody, who might have taken offense to it.
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Unread post by NewApp » Mon May 19, 2014 12:16 pm

appst89 wrote:
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Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.
Just curious as to why you immediately jumped to that conclusion when Saint mentioned the college experience? He said nothing about sex, drugs, and rock n' roll. He could just as easily have been talking about the opportunity to examine one's own beliefs and challenge oneself without the influence of parents. Perhaps you should have asked him before jumping to the most negative possible conclusion?
Reread the post above which explained that I wasn't referring to Saint at all, just referencing the few who define the college experience as having to include the availability of alcohol and late night parties which indirectly lead to the incidents last year and prior involving our athletes. Many, of course, enjoy the college experience (as was mentioned in the original post) without having to live so close or actually on the campus--including living with parents or actually commuting from a distance.

By the way, the NewApp moniker simply references the new era we have evolved to since moving to FBS and with it, a new conference, new rivals, and new friends with the new affiliations.



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Unread post by NewApp » Mon May 19, 2014 12:22 pm

Gonzo wrote:
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Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.
I agree that there is a whole lot more to the college experience than getting wasted and having sex all the time, but staying at moms house and then driving to UNCC is not a college experience
It most certainly can be. It just simply depends on how one defines the college experience. Many ASU alumni had great nostalgic experiences before co-ed dorms, alcohol, etc was available. They are present at gatherings and games by the thousands and many have contributed generously to our alma mater.



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Unread post by NewApp » Mon May 19, 2014 12:26 pm

appst89 wrote:
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Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.
Just curious as to why you immediately jumped to that conclusion when Saint mentioned the college experience? He said nothing about sex, drugs, and rock n' roll. He could just as easily have been talking about the opportunity to examine one's own beliefs and challenge oneself without the influence of parents. Perhaps you should have asked him before jumping to the most negative possible conclusion?
I think if you carefully re-read the entire post you will see, as was expressed in later posts, that I was not at all directing the comment to Saint specifically.



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by appst89 » Mon May 19, 2014 12:35 pm

NewApp wrote:
appst89 wrote:
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Saint3333 wrote:It makes a huge difference when you're talking about the college experience.
Thousands of grads have loved their college days without the type of college experience that so many on this and other boards like to characterize. Personally, I and many others had a great time at ASTC and later ASU without partying and indulging in sex, "drugs," and rock and roll. (Drugs includes alcohol" For me, I had no inclination, money, nor time to engage in such things. The long list of popular programs, Christian groups and facilities satisfied me quite well. I waited until I graduated and was more mature before I ventured into that world. To each his own.
Just curious as to why you immediately jumped to that conclusion when Saint mentioned the college experience? He said nothing about sex, drugs, and rock n' roll. He could just as easily have been talking about the opportunity to examine one's own beliefs and challenge oneself without the influence of parents. Perhaps you should have asked him before jumping to the most negative possible conclusion?
I think if you carefully re-read the entire post you will see, as was expressed in later posts, that I was not at all directing the comment to Saint specifically.
Doesn't really matter if it was a response to a specific person or not. I still wonder why you immediately went for the worst possible connotation of the "college experience". Saint just happened to be the person who used the term.



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Re: Georgia State Tidbit

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Mon May 19, 2014 1:08 pm

New Definition in Websters

College Experience - the act of attending a college or university while heavily engaging in sex, drugs and rock'n'roll often times distracting and preventing the student from his or her responsible duties of attending classes, studying and participating in other civic duties.



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