College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
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College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Liberty didn't even wait for the team to get back to Lynchburg before relieving Dale Layer of his head coaching duties at the team hotel in Myrtle Beach. And they've already hired a search firm.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... ave-layer/
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... ave-layer/
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Could we move this over to the "Other Teams Athletics" folder?
Given the last 6 years with MBB, I get quezy with this thread anywhere near our teams treads.
Given the last 6 years with MBB, I get quezy with this thread anywhere near our teams treads.
That's what I do. I gripe and I know things.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Classy.T-Dog wrote:Liberty didn't even wait for the team to get back to Lynchburg before relieving Dale Layer of his head coaching duties at the team hotel in Myrtle Beach. And they've already hired a search firm.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... ave-layer/
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
How un-Christian of them!
LMAO
And for all you Flamers out there, calm down...it was just a joke...kind of like Liberty's academics.

And for all you Flamers out there, calm down...it was just a joke...kind of like Liberty's academics.
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As long as they leave Fox alone, I don't care what other schools do.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
The Carolina Way: Syracuse Style
You'd think this would be worth about 4 post-season bans; but nooooooooooooooooo! @#%&!!!
http://nypost.com/2015/03/06/ncaa-hits- ... -cheating/
SYRACUSE — In a sweeping indictment of one of the country’s most decorated basketball programs, the NCAA suspended Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim for nine games Friday and outlined a decade-long series of violations that included improper benefits, academic misconduct and drug-policy failures.
The governing body, saying the school lost control of its athletic department, placed Syracuse on probation for five years for breaking with the “most fundamental core values of the NCAA.”
The basketball team must vacate wins in which ineligible players participated. Those players competed during five seasons: 2004-2007 and 2010-2012.
Boeheim, the second-winningest coach in Division I history with 966 victories, has coached at Syracuse for 39 years, having played at the school as well. The 70-year-old coach has been an assistant on the last two gold medalist U.S. Olympic teams.
The punishment includes financial penalties and the reduction of three men’s basketball scholarships a year for four years. Recruiting restrictions will be enforced for two years. Boeheim’s suspension comprises half the Atlantic Coast Conference season and will be applied next year.
The four-year investigation also revealed violations by the football program, although most of the violations came in men’s basketball.
In anticipation of the report, Syracuse chancellor Kent Syverud had announced a postseason ban for this year for the basketball team. The NCAA accepted the ban, meaning next year’s recruits won’t be affected.
The NCAA said Boeheim, did not promote an atmosphere of compliance and failed to monitor the activities of those who reported to him regarding academics and boosters.
The NCAA said several violations involved students and staff. The report added that academic violations stemmed from the director of basketball operations, who was hand-picked by Boeheim to address academic matters.
“The rule’s pretty clear,” said Britton Banowsky, chief hearing officer for the NCAA. “The head coach has a duty to monitor activities in his program. Jim Boeheim did dispute that he should be held accountable. There was controversy over that. It (the charge) was not effectively rebutted at all.”
In 2012, former center Fab Melo was declared ineligible for the NCAA tournament days before it started. NCAA spokesman Erik Christianson said the university declared Melo ineligible. Melo also missed three Big East games during the season because of an academic issue.
In the 2012-13 season, former forward James Southerland sat out six games for an academic issue related to a term paper but played in the NCAA tournament and helped lead the Orange to the Final Four.
In its decision, the committee specifically addressed academic integrity.
“Improper institutional involvement and influence in a student’s academic work in order to gain or maintain eligibility is a violation of NCAA rules and a violation of the most fundamental core values of the NCAA and higher education,” the committee wrote. “The behavior in this case, which placed the desire to achieve success on the basketball court over academic integrity, demonstrated clearly misplaced institutional priorities.”
The committee also found that from 2001-09 the school did not follow its own written policies and procedures for students who tested positive for banned substances. NCAA rules require that if schools have a drug-testing policy, it must include substances on the banned list and the school must follow its policy. Syracuse had a written policy, but both Boeheim and athletic director Daryl Gross admitted they did not follow it.
In addition to the one-year postseason ban for the men’s basketball team, the university announced it also had self-imposed other penalties, including elimination of one scholarship for men’s basketball for the 2015-2016 season, vacating 24 men’s basketball wins (15 in 2004-05 and nine in 2011-12), and vacating 11 football wins from 2004-07 under former coaches Paul Pasqualoni and Greg Robinson.
The school must return to the NCAA all funds it has received through the former Big East Conference revenue sharing for its appearances in the 2011, 2012 and 2013 NCAA men’s basketball tournament.
The 94-page NCAA report said a booster developed relationships with men’s basketball and football players and members of the men’s basketball staff. In some instances, the report said the basketball staff encouraged students to develop relationships with the booster, which resulted in rule violations.
The investigation also found that the booster provided more than $8,000 in cash to three football and two men’s basketball students for volunteering at a local YMCA. Additionally, the booster gave money to basketball staff members for appearances or assistance at YMCA events, and those payments were not reported to the school as outside income or supplemental pay, as NCAA rules require.
You'd think this would be worth about 4 post-season bans; but nooooooooooooooooo! @#%&!!!
http://nypost.com/2015/03/06/ncaa-hits- ... -cheating/
SYRACUSE — In a sweeping indictment of one of the country’s most decorated basketball programs, the NCAA suspended Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim for nine games Friday and outlined a decade-long series of violations that included improper benefits, academic misconduct and drug-policy failures.
The governing body, saying the school lost control of its athletic department, placed Syracuse on probation for five years for breaking with the “most fundamental core values of the NCAA.”
The basketball team must vacate wins in which ineligible players participated. Those players competed during five seasons: 2004-2007 and 2010-2012.
Boeheim, the second-winningest coach in Division I history with 966 victories, has coached at Syracuse for 39 years, having played at the school as well. The 70-year-old coach has been an assistant on the last two gold medalist U.S. Olympic teams.
The punishment includes financial penalties and the reduction of three men’s basketball scholarships a year for four years. Recruiting restrictions will be enforced for two years. Boeheim’s suspension comprises half the Atlantic Coast Conference season and will be applied next year.
The four-year investigation also revealed violations by the football program, although most of the violations came in men’s basketball.
In anticipation of the report, Syracuse chancellor Kent Syverud had announced a postseason ban for this year for the basketball team. The NCAA accepted the ban, meaning next year’s recruits won’t be affected.
The NCAA said Boeheim, did not promote an atmosphere of compliance and failed to monitor the activities of those who reported to him regarding academics and boosters.
The NCAA said several violations involved students and staff. The report added that academic violations stemmed from the director of basketball operations, who was hand-picked by Boeheim to address academic matters.
“The rule’s pretty clear,” said Britton Banowsky, chief hearing officer for the NCAA. “The head coach has a duty to monitor activities in his program. Jim Boeheim did dispute that he should be held accountable. There was controversy over that. It (the charge) was not effectively rebutted at all.”
In 2012, former center Fab Melo was declared ineligible for the NCAA tournament days before it started. NCAA spokesman Erik Christianson said the university declared Melo ineligible. Melo also missed three Big East games during the season because of an academic issue.
In the 2012-13 season, former forward James Southerland sat out six games for an academic issue related to a term paper but played in the NCAA tournament and helped lead the Orange to the Final Four.
In its decision, the committee specifically addressed academic integrity.
“Improper institutional involvement and influence in a student’s academic work in order to gain or maintain eligibility is a violation of NCAA rules and a violation of the most fundamental core values of the NCAA and higher education,” the committee wrote. “The behavior in this case, which placed the desire to achieve success on the basketball court over academic integrity, demonstrated clearly misplaced institutional priorities.”
The committee also found that from 2001-09 the school did not follow its own written policies and procedures for students who tested positive for banned substances. NCAA rules require that if schools have a drug-testing policy, it must include substances on the banned list and the school must follow its policy. Syracuse had a written policy, but both Boeheim and athletic director Daryl Gross admitted they did not follow it.
In addition to the one-year postseason ban for the men’s basketball team, the university announced it also had self-imposed other penalties, including elimination of one scholarship for men’s basketball for the 2015-2016 season, vacating 24 men’s basketball wins (15 in 2004-05 and nine in 2011-12), and vacating 11 football wins from 2004-07 under former coaches Paul Pasqualoni and Greg Robinson.
The school must return to the NCAA all funds it has received through the former Big East Conference revenue sharing for its appearances in the 2011, 2012 and 2013 NCAA men’s basketball tournament.
The 94-page NCAA report said a booster developed relationships with men’s basketball and football players and members of the men’s basketball staff. In some instances, the report said the basketball staff encouraged students to develop relationships with the booster, which resulted in rule violations.
The investigation also found that the booster provided more than $8,000 in cash to three football and two men’s basketball students for volunteering at a local YMCA. Additionally, the booster gave money to basketball staff members for appearances or assistance at YMCA events, and those payments were not reported to the school as outside income or supplemental pay, as NCAA rules require.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Murray Bartow is out at ETSU.
Chuck Driesell was fired at El Citadel.
Chuck Driesell was fired at El Citadel.
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I'm hearing that Jason Allison, in his first season as an assistant here at APP under Coach Fox, is going to get a serious look for his first collegiate HC job at Liberty. It appears Liberty is going to go one of two ways: 1.) Big-name veteran hire, or 2.) Young up-and-comer that they can have a shot to keep for a while, even if on an upswing. Coach Allison would fall under #2 on this list, being a Liberty guy and having started coaching in Lynchburg at LCA (Liberty's uber-successful K-12 school), and with LU having also known him from his many years at VMI.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Charlotte, George Mason and Alabama are all looking for new coaches.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
TheMoody1 wrote:Maybe their next coach will be able to coach the team online.
Is it too early to nominate for funniest post of the year? My cellphone is now covered in Diet Coke, thanks Moody.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Will Wade from UTC has been linked to UNCC.
Dugger Baucom from VMI is heavily linked to El Citadel.
Former BC coach Steve Donahue is expected to be the next coach at Penn.
I expect Anthony Grant to land somewhere decent.
Dugger Baucom from VMI is heavily linked to El Citadel.
Former BC coach Steve Donahue is expected to be the next coach at Penn.
I expect Anthony Grant to land somewhere decent.
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Liberty reportedly, according to several sources, offered Murray State HC Steve Prohm upwards of $1 Million perto become the next Flames coach. However, it sounds as if Prohm is more interested in a BCS opportunity, which is certainly understandable.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Rick Barnes is out as Texas, but likely to go somewhere else quickly. Texas reportedly want's either Gregg Marshall at Wichita State or Shaka Smart from VCU.
Donnie Tyndall was fired after one year at Tennessee for violations he committed as Southern Miss. It's possible Barnes ends up at Rocky Top.
Steve Lavin is out at St John's and Tom Pecora is out at Fordham. Both decent jobs in NYC.
Donnie Tyndall was fired after one year at Tennessee for violations he committed as Southern Miss. It's possible Barnes ends up at Rocky Top.
Steve Lavin is out at St John's and Tom Pecora is out at Fordham. Both decent jobs in NYC.
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
As expected, El Cid picked up Duggar Baucom after 10 years at VMI. Solid get...
http://citadelsports.com/news/2015/3/30 ... ath=mbball
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basket ... ach-033015
http://citadelsports.com/news/2015/3/30 ... ath=mbball
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Rick Barnes to Tennessee. As many expected he would not stay out of a job very long.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... orns-coach
Steve Forbes taking over for Murray Bartow at East Tennessee State. Forbes was a former assistant under Bruce Pearl at UT and with Gregg Marshall at Wichita State.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basket ... ate-033015
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... orns-coach
Steve Forbes taking over for Murray Bartow at East Tennessee State. Forbes was a former assistant under Bruce Pearl at UT and with Gregg Marshall at Wichita State.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basket ... ate-033015
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Re: College Hoops Silly Season Has Begun
Sounds a bit like when Coach Moore was let go.T-Dog wrote:Liberty didn't even wait for the team to get back to Lynchburg before relieving Dale Layer of his head coaching duties at the team hotel in Myrtle Beach. And they've already hired a search firm.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... ave-layer/
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So Layer knew over a year in advance?NewApp wrote:Sounds a bit like when Coach Moore was let go.T-Dog wrote:Liberty didn't even wait for the team to get back to Lynchburg before relieving Dale Layer of his head coaching duties at the team hotel in Myrtle Beach. And they've already hired a search firm.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... ave-layer/
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Liberty went back to the future today, hiring UVA lead assistant Ritchie McKay, the Flames coach during the Seth Curry years. McKay will make the hours drive back down 29 South to Lynchburg after 5 seasons away. Apparently the final three contenders were McKay, another former LU head coach in Jeff Meyer...the lead assistant at Michigan, and the Mercer coach, whose name escapes me.
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The VMI job is now open. Duggar to Citadel is official.
I would think Jason Allison will be seriously considered for that job. He was the recruiting coordinator there before taking this job.
I would think Jason Allison will be seriously considered for that job. He was the recruiting coordinator there before taking this job.