Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Back to ULM…is there any reasonable way to get them out of the SBC? Or would that take an alignment of the moon and stars to happen?

Honestly, I’d probably trade ULM for La Tech, but don’t want them both. Maybe we can make some sort of trade with CUSA. ULM for one of their many sucky teams not Liberty.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

[AppStFan1]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope App and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

[BallantyneApp]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

[JTApps1]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I wonder how Norris is handling herself in this situation being so new? I don't think she'd be a pushover and vote for something that would hurt App, but I also doubt she wants to spend too much political capital right off the bat. I'm guessing she knows we got basically everything we asked for last go around so no need to make enemies over La Tech vs WKU.

[BallantyneApp]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I wonder how Norris is handling herself in this situation being so new? I don't think she'd be a pushover and vote for something that would hurt App, but I also doubt she wants to spend too much political capital right off the bat. I'm guessing she knows we got basically everything we asked for last go around so no need to make enemies over La Tech vs WKU.

That would be a very reasonable approach for a new CEO.


Also, it appears everyone is circling the 2030 timeframe for big conference moves. So anything that happens circa 2027 is very short timeframe.

[AtlAppMan]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I wonder how Norris is handling herself in this situation being so new? I don't think she'd be a pushover and vote for something that would hurt App, but I also doubt she wants to spend too much political capital right off the bat. I'm guessing she knows we got basically everything we asked for last go around so no need to make enemies over La Tech vs WKU.

That would be a very reasonable approach for a new CEO.


Also, it appears everyone is circling the 2030 timeframe for big conference moves. So anything that happens circa 2027 is very short timeframe.

Even though we got what we wanted in last round there was a reason we did because it made a lot of sense. In addition, the results have proven it was a good move. I say that gives us even MORE leverage on the next round, not less, don't concede our leverage to a bunch of schools that did not do well BEFORE we arrived. App has made the SBC a much better conference and our continued guidance has proven to be a good. In simple terms, we pushed to add only schools that added net positive to our footprint, not adding crap schools just because they happen to be down the road from one of our least productive members.

In regards to Norris, I would not back down but rather step up and take the leadership role. Come in strong and don't let the others think she will be pushed around. Strong leadership will payoff for our school in the long run. Don't sit in the back of the room. Nobody puts baby in the corner.

[AppStFan1]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I don't see a president and chancellor not consulting the athletic director on this. Don't you think? Heather has not been on job long enough to know as much on this stuff as Gillin would so I would think she would want his opinion.

[AppStFan1]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I wonder how Norris is handling herself in this situation being so new? I don't think she'd be a pushover and vote for something that would hurt App, but I also doubt she wants to spend too much political capital right off the bat. I'm guessing she knows we got basically everything we asked for last go around so no need to make enemies over La Tech vs WKU.

I completely understand about political capital but it is not like we pushed for a team in our own state that does not help the league in any way. What we wanted expanded the map, improved the athletics for the league, and improved it some financially. What we did was for the good of the SBC and what ULM wants only really helps them. The only way adding La Tech now benefits the SBC is if we drop ULM. We don't need 3 schools from that state unless we can add LSU. Gill really should go tell ULM that either we don't add La Tech or if they come in the league that ULM would have to leave. I have nothing personally against the schools but we need to see a revenue increase and this won't do that.

[AppStFan1]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I wonder how Norris is handling herself in this situation being so new? I don't think she'd be a pushover and vote for something that would hurt App, but I also doubt she wants to spend too much political capital right off the bat. I'm guessing she knows we got basically everything we asked for last go around so no need to make enemies over La Tech vs WKU.

That would be a very reasonable approach for a new CEO.


Also, it appears everyone is circling the 2030 timeframe for big conference moves. So anything that happens circa 2027 is very short timeframe.

I don't really want to make moves just for a 2-3 year period. I am thinking about that 2030-2031 window and hope that we either add game-changers to the SBC or we bolt with a few other schools and go join a better league or form a new league. I am seeing reports that schools want Gillin to show tangible data that prove adding La Tech helps our league. If there is legit data out there that they raise the revenue enough so we would make more than I am okay with it but I really doubt that is the case. I would rather add Ohio. They give us a new market by expanding map and they bring a good football and basketball program.

[Stonewall]

The Chancellor is representing and articulating the position of our University quite well , as I am told. And of course she is working hand in glove with our AD and others in the University power structure.

[AppStFan1]

The Chancellor is representing and articulating the position of our University quite well , as I am told. And of course she is working hand in glove with our AD and others in the University power structure.

Love to hear that. That is why I said Gillin at first because I assumed she would be doing this. She can't just make an educated decision on her own. She definitely has to get input from the full power structure. I think the AD's voice has to carry huge weight in a decision like this.

[Stonewall]

Yes , of course. The AD , Chancellor and Board are aligned on this issue I am told.

[AppStFan1]

Yes , of course. The AD , Chancellor and Board are aligned on this issue I am told.

Hope they stand firm here.

[JTApps1]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I wonder how Norris is handling herself in this situation being so new? I don't think she'd be a pushover and vote for something that would hurt App, but I also doubt she wants to spend too much political capital right off the bat. I'm guessing she knows we got basically everything we asked for last go around so no need to make enemies over La Tech vs WKU.

I completely understand about political capital but it is not like we pushed for a team in our own state that does not help the league in any way. What we wanted expanded the map, improved the athletics for the league, and improved it some financially. What we did was for the good of the SBC and what ULM wants only really helps them. The only way adding La Tech now benefits the SBC is if we drop ULM. We don't need 3 schools from that state unless we can add LSU. Gill really should go tell ULM that either we don't add La Tech or if they come in the league that ULM would have to leave. I have nothing personally against the schools but we need to see a revenue increase and this won't do that.

Nobody available is going to boost the conference. We're picking from the tallest midget at this point. That's why I say there's no need to go too hard for or against one of the front runners. Make your thoughts on what is best known but don't be a PITA either. Besides, we'll be in a new conference before too long.

[AppSt94]

Yes , of course. The AD , Chancellor and Board are aligned on this issue I am told.

Funny how much more smoothly thing run when everyone is working together.

[BallantyneApp]

For those wanting Ohio, they have apparently been approached by Sun Belt.

I don't think many of us had thought of adding Ohio until we found out they were interested. I don't know if the SBC reached out to them first or they reached out to us but I would not be opposed to them. I don't want them if we have to take La Tech though. There is absolutely no need for 3 teams from Louisiana. I hope Gillin and at least 3-4 other schools are firm on this and say no to La Tech unless ULM leaves. We don't need both of those schools.

Won’t be Gillins call

I don't see a president and chancellor not consulting the athletic director on this. Don't you think? Heather has not been on job long enough to know as much on this stuff as Gillin would so I would think she would want his opinion.

yeah I agree Gillin will be involved of course, but at the end of the day this is a CEO and institution decision and not an athletics decision.

[AppWyo]

Yes , of course. The AD , Chancellor and Board are aligned on this issue I am told.

Funny how much more smoothly thing run when everyone is working together.

unless they succumb to group think. https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-groupthink-2795213

[Stonewall]

La Tech has the minimum number of votes needed.Negotiations are ongoing.

[Bootsy]

Is it possible ULM is currently thinking “me first” because they realize they need to right the ship before the a new TV deal is negotiated?

If this is the case, maybe ULM also considers replacing that color palette/logo that look like they were created by a 3rd grader with a trial subscription to MS Paint?