New Bowls for SBC

[Maddog1956]

There are too many bowl games and the reward factor has been all but lost as a consequence.

There are too many bowl games when someone puts one on TV (what have you) and no one watches, otherwise it's not too many. If 20k-40k fans attend and another 100k+ watches the game on TV, there is not too many bowl games for them. If players get a kick out of playing in a bowl. I don't think its to many for him. I don't watch many college games that APP isn't playing, so to see them play in any bowl isn't too many for me.

Plus not one has to watch the the Rice Bowl if they want to watch another bowl, so it shouldn't be too many bowls for them.

I mean none of the bowl games are that important. If they had a real play off it would be more important, but let's face it most likely the next national champ is going to come from the SEC anyway because of the money, coverage, and prestige they have. Where they sit now they would just have to blow it.

If viewers want to watch and players want to play, it doesn't matter if it leads to a national championship to me or not, it at least can provide some bragging rights. I think beating a team from another conference can only add to a football program.

[bcoach]

I love doing this.

[fjblair]

Who cares what they call them, there are WAY too many bowl games. FBS has jumped the shark. Let's get real, .500 teams and teams with losing records should not be in post season games.

[hapapp]

I wish the FCS had kept the original name for their national title game. Back in the 1980s, it was known as The Diamond Bowl.

Also, don't poo-poo corporate sponsor names. While I like the traditional names of bowls, the thought that a company thinks enough of the game to put its name on it does push the attention level up a little bit. What if the FCS teams played in the Powerade Diamond Bowl? Have Coca-Cola pony up $1 Million for the naming rights, and the champion take home $500,000. The loser $250,000 and the other $250,000 could be split among the other two Final Four participants? It would have made the playoffs less of a money loser for the four teams that deserved the spotlight, and maybe have put more eyes on the product. If such a system was put in place 15 years ago, FCS football would be in an entirely different place today, and some of the best teams may have stayed around. But, the NCAA doesn't care about its championships short of the Men's Basketball tournament. Not even the "Colllege World Series".

VERY good point. Some of those corporate bowl names make just about anyone scoff, but what do names like that mean for the subdivision? Answer: $$$$. Money. Money that will go directly into the App State athletic department. Money that's increasingly harder to come by in the FCS.

I'm not sure ASU will pocket much money from a bowl game. Schools often lose money on bowls. The regular season is what I'm looking forward to with improved scheduling. I certainly would also be excited to attend ASU's first bowl as an FBS school.

[GlassOnion]

Who cares what they call them, there are WAY too many bowl games. FBS has jumped the shark. Let's get real, .500 teams and teams with losing records should not be in post season games.

Alot like the FCS playoffs expanding year after year, isnt it? Welcome to our new culture, where everyone gets a plastic trophy for everything.

[TheMoody1]

I love doing this.

Good to hear you were BS'ing. I was beginning to think you were special.

[ggasu]

The best thing to come of this would be a chance to be in a bowl game in 2014.

If there isn't enough teams to meet the criteria of wins for a bowl, then transitional teams that meet the bowl requirements are let in.

If they add 3 or 4 bowls in 2014 there is a good chance that there would not be enough bowl eligible teams under the current guidelines.

[TurfMonkey]

10 hour day at an App Game (not complaining) I don't get to see very many other games. The bowls are a chance for
me to see some other teams play for probably the only time all year. Don't care if they're 6-6 or 3-9, it's college
football and I'll watch. scott

[wb247]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The regular season .500 mark (or better) for bowl eligibility is silly. Make it .500 or better in conference play. If you can't win half of the games against your peers, you shouldn't be playing postseason ball.

[bcoach]

With so many bowls and being so easy to get into it is hard to call them post season play anymore. What they have really become is just another nonconference game with a few bye weeks in between. I love to see people just go nuts over a .500 season and want to fire the coach and then start jumping up and down because they made a bowl. Why not just schedule one extra game a year where you can make a profit instead of having to lose a bunch of money on a bowl and end up in Detroit?

[JTApps1]

With so many bowls and being so easy to get into it is hard to call them post season play anymore. What they have really become is just another nonconference game with a few bye weeks in between. I love to see people just go nuts over a .500 season and want to fire the coach and then start jumping up and down because they made a bowl. Why not just schedule one extra game a year where you can make a profit instead of having to lose a bunch of money on a bowl and end up in Detroit?

The argument for too many bowls applies more to the P5 conferences than the Go5 in my mind. For the vast majority of years teams from the Go5 schools only have a shot at a bowl if they win 8 or more games. The problem is all the "power" teams that get to .500 (sometimes not even) that get a bowl because of who they are and tie ins. The minimum should be 7 wins now that everyone plays 12 games. When the 6 win standard was set the regular season was only 11 games so at least you had to have a winning season.

[Appsolutely]

"I'm not sure ASU will pocket much money from a bowl game. Schools often lose money on bowls. The regular season is what I'm looking forward to with improved scheduling. I certainly would also be excited to attend ASU's first bowl as an FBS school."

Exactly...
Again, all the focus seems to be on the post-season. I'm looking forward to a better regular-season schedule and some regional games with FBS and BCS schools.

[ASUMountaineer]

Sorry guys I do cave sometimes but not this one. That name is just pitiful.

I guess it's not just pro-FBSers that are apparently worried about what we tell our friends...

[bcoach]

Sorry guys I do cave sometimes but not this one. That name is just pitiful.

I guess it's not just pro-FBSers that are apparently worried about what we tell our friends...

I know. This whole thing has made us all paranoid. I don't even answer the phone anymore.

[Yosef10]

Was goin through old boards and came across this one. Just wanna throw in a couple cents of knowledge.
1. If you honestly think and believe we should have stayed in FCS and it would have been good for the program you're out of your mind and obviously a bit out dated. You know how embarrassing it was to say we were playing SAMFORD or WOFFORD week in and week out.
2. The belief that 4 playoff games (which didn't happen often outside of 3 years) in FCS is better than a bowl game then I shouldn't waste my time on you. Go ask every kid on the team which they would rather play in and it's gonna be unanimous a bowl game.
3. Vega I'm sorry our new conference doesn't suit your travel or travel budget but I don't think we will be missing out on your group of 8 come bowl season.
4. "Playing solid teams in the playoffs" solid is preeeetttyy relative there jack, cause in the grand scheme of things, they ain't solid teams. And yeah I'd prefer to see my school play some teams with talent.
5. For the complainers all I've heard is why THEY don't like the move, for personal reasons. It really makes no sense for the PROGRAM to stay behind in tbat garbage division, like I said if you really think so you might be a tad outdated

[vegattk]

Was goin through old boards and came across this one. Just wanna throw in a couple cents of knowledge.
1. If you honestly think and believe we should have stayed in FCS and it would have been good for the program you're out of your mind and obviously a bit out dated. You know how embarrassing it was to say we were playing SAMFORD or WOFFORD week in and week out.
2. The belief that 4 playoff games (which didn't happen often outside of 3 years) in FCS is better than a bowl game then I shouldn't waste my time on you. Go ask every kid on the team which they would rather play in and it's gonna be unanimous a bowl game.
3. Vega I'm sorry our new conference doesn't suit your travel or travel budget but I don't think we will be missing out on your group of 8 come bowl season.
4. "Playing solid teams in the playoffs" solid is preeeetttyy relative there jack, cause in the grand scheme of things, they ain't solid teams. And yeah I'd prefer to see my school play some teams with talent.
5. For the complainers all I've heard is why THEY don't like the move, for personal reasons. It really makes no sense for the PROGRAM to stay behind in tbat garbage division, like I said if you really think so you might be a tad outdated

Yosef10... I think you're a bit behind. About 9 months behind.