Possible Plan of Idaho if kicked out of SunBelt

[moehler]

couple of Marshall fans have said they believe next year the state is going to make major cuts to the budget, they are assuming it will include funding to their collage. If their correct, I could see why their administration might be more willing to atleast consider a regional conference. As far as UNCC, deep down, their administration knows they need us, their fans know they need us, but right now, and I mean for the next couple of years, their going to thumb their nose at the idea of being in a conference with App. But we all know, if they keep losing, not only in football but other sports, their attendance will hit rock bottom, revenue streams will dry up, expenses will keep rising, and then I think they will swallow their pride, and finally sit down and talk to us.

[APPdiesel]

BigDaddyG: I read somewhere that it's essentially the reverse of moving up. Assuming they have a conference that wants them (and they do, Big Sky), they have 2 years to reach the 63 scholarship limit. Graduation should take care of most of that, transfers a few more, and if necessary, pulling scholarships from a few. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

JTApps1 - do you have a link? I'd love to read what they're saying.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

[JTApps1]

BigDaddyG: I read somewhere that it's essentially the reverse of moving up. Assuming they have a conference that wants them (and they do, Big Sky), they have 2 years to reach the 63 scholarship limit. Graduation should take care of most of that, transfers a few more, and if necessary, pulling scholarships from a few. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

JTApps1 - do you have a link? I'd love to read what they're saying.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Here is the link to the thread about the TV rights. http://csnbbs.com/thread-766422.html

[APPdiesel]

Here is the link to the thread about the TV rights. http://csnbbs.com/thread-766422.html

Haha, I read through a lot of those (mostly skimmed for references to App) but everyone there is thinking small. Thinking that adding a team here, or chopping a team there is going to save their collective behinds. It won't. It's exactly the mentality that made these far flung conferences happen in the first place.

[NewApp]

From Twitter:

NCAA ‏@NCAA
DI Council approves proposal allowing FBS conferences without 12 members to hold conference championship football games.

So we could be playing a possible 14 games. That being 12 regular season games, 1 championship game, and a bowl game?

[MDaniels84]

From Twitter:

NCAA ‏@NCAA
DI Council approves proposal allowing FBS conferences without 12 members to hold conference championship football games.

So we could be playing a possible 14 games. That being 12 regular season games, 1 championship game, and a bowl game?

Don't be such a pessimist. 15 games if you consider the playoff.

[NewApp]

From Twitter:

NCAA ‏@NCAA
DI Council approves proposal allowing FBS conferences without 12 members to hold conference championship football games.

So we could be playing a possible 14 games. That being 12 regular season games, 1 championship game, and a bowl game?

Don't be such a pessimist. 15 games if you consider the playoff.

Not a pessimist; just an observation.

[Yosef10]

From Twitter:

NCAA ‏@NCAA
DI Council approves proposal allowing FBS conferences without 12 members to hold conference championship football games.

So we could be playing a possible 14 games. That being 12 regular season games, 1 championship game, and a bowl game?

And?

[Nugget49]

couple of Marshall fans have said they believe next year the state is going to make major cuts to the budget, they are assuming it will include funding to their collage. If their correct, I could see why their administration might be more willing to atleast consider a regional conference. As far as UNCC, deep down, their administration knows they need us, their fans know they need us, but right now, and I mean for the next couple of years, their going to thumb their nose at the idea of being in a conference with App. But we all know, if they keep losing, not only in football but other sports, their attendance will hit rock bottom, revenue streams will dry up, expenses will keep rising, and then I think they will swallow their pride, and finally sit down and talk to us.

I have not gone back to re-read this thread from the beginning, but has it morphed from what to do if Idaho gets the boot, to realignment rationalization? Yeah, that happens on our board too.

I think we have to start with the understanding that message board talk about realignment is all about what we want, and not what is possible or likely. For Charlotte I think that means the AAC, or the P5 (dreaming--see what I mean). Only an all-conferences gut job would offer anything else to us. I would point out that Charlotte has been flying cross-country to play volleyball, etc. since 1991 (maybe 1976). We are okay with this, can afford it, and it will not move us towards regionalization. However, if a G5 regionalization did happen, and we could put together App, Charlotte, and ECU as the center of the conference geographically I think it would be good start. I do not think regular realignment gets us there--meaning the Big 12 takes somebody from the AAC, who raids C-USA, who looks to the Sun Belt--you know, what we have already seen. I am talking about all G-5 Presidents/Chancellors getting together and starting with a clean sheet of paper. So basically, I don't think this is happening.

[EastHallApp]

couple of Marshall fans have said they believe next year the state is going to make major cuts to the budget, they are assuming it will include funding to their collage. If their correct, I could see why their administration might be more willing to atleast consider a regional conference. As far as UNCC, deep down, their administration knows they need us, their fans know they need us, but right now, and I mean for the next couple of years, their going to thumb their nose at the idea of being in a conference with App. But we all know, if they keep losing, not only in football but other sports, their attendance will hit rock bottom, revenue streams will dry up, expenses will keep rising, and then I think they will swallow their pride, and finally sit down and talk to us.

I have not gone back to re-read this thread from the beginning, but has it morphed from what to do if Idaho gets the boot, to realignment rationalization? Yeah, that happens on our board too.

I think we have to start with the understanding that message board talk about realignment is all about what we want, and not what is possible or likely. For Charlotte I think that means the AAC, or the P5 (dreaming--see what I mean). Only an all-conferences gut job would offer anything else to us. I would point out that Charlotte has been flying cross-country to play volleyball, etc. since 1991 (maybe 1976). We are okay with this, can afford it, and it will not move us towards regionalization. However, if a G5 regionalization did happen, and we could put together App, Charlotte, and ECU as the center of the conference geographically I think it would be good start. I do not think regular realignment gets us there--meaning the Big 12 takes somebody from the AAC, who raids C-USA, who looks to the Sun Belt--you know, what we have already seen. I am talking about all G-5 Presidents/Chancellors getting together and starting with a clean sheet of paper. So basically, I don't think this is happening.

I have a hard time envisioning the scenario that would lead to that happening either. It is a popular theory on this board, though. Would love to see it become reality.

[bcoach]

couple of Marshall fans have said they believe next year the state is going to make major cuts to the budget, they are assuming it will include funding to their collage. If their correct, I could see why their administration might be more willing to atleast consider a regional conference. As far as UNCC, deep down, their administration knows they need us, their fans know they need us, but right now, and I mean for the next couple of years, their going to thumb their nose at the idea of being in a conference with App. But we all know, if they keep losing, not only in football but other sports, their attendance will hit rock bottom, revenue streams will dry up, expenses will keep rising, and then I think they will swallow their pride, and finally sit down and talk to us.

I have not gone back to re-read this thread from the beginning, but has it morphed from what to do if Idaho gets the boot, to realignment rationalization? Yeah, that happens on our board too.

I think we have to start with the understanding that message board talk about realignment is all about what we want, and not what is possible or likely. For Charlotte I think that means the AAC, or the P5 (dreaming--see what I mean). Only an all-conferences gut job would offer anything else to us. I would point out that Charlotte has been flying cross-country to play volleyball, etc. since 1991 (maybe 1976). We are okay with this, can afford it, and it will not move us towards regionalization. However, if a G5 regionalization did happen, and we could put together App, Charlotte, and ECU as the center of the conference geographically I think it would be good start. I do not think regular realignment gets us there--meaning the Big 12 takes somebody from the AAC, who raids C-USA, who looks to the Sun Belt--you know, what we have already seen. I am talking about all G-5 Presidents/Chancellors getting together and starting with a clean sheet of paper. So basically, I don't think this is happening.

Moving a volley ball team and moving a football team are worlds apart. You can move the volleyball team for less than just the food bill for football.

[bcoach]

What I would really like to see is drop half the bowl games and make them really mean something. I have confidence we can do that year in and year out. Needing 6 wins is way too low a bar for our program. Talk about swallowing pride for some of these teams to go FCS. I would have to swallow an awful lot of pride to go to a bowl game with 6 wins. OR oh my lord how do I even say this....... 5 wins?

[NewApp]

From Twitter:

NCAA ‏@NCAA
DI Council approves proposal allowing FBS conferences without 12 members to hold conference championship football games.

So we could be playing a possible 14 games. That being 12 regular season games, 1 championship game, and a bowl game?

And?

It was a question, hence the question mark.

[NewApp]

What I would really like to see is drop half the bowl games and make them really mean something. I have confidence we can do that year in and year out. Needing 6 wins is way too low a bar for our program. Talk about swallowing pride for some of these teams to go FCS. I would have to swallow an awful lot of pride to go to a bowl game with 6 wins. OR oh my lord how do I even say this....... 5 wins?

bbcoach, weren't there one or two 5-7 teams in bowl games this go round.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

What I would really like to see is drop half the bowl games and make them really mean something. I have confidence we can do that year in and year out. Needing 6 wins is way too low a bar for our program. Talk about swallowing pride for some of these teams to go FCS. I would have to swallow an awful lot of pride to go to a bowl game with 6 wins. OR oh my lord how do I even say this....... 5 wins?

bbcoach, weren't there one or two 5-7 teams in bowl games this go round.

I thought it was three teams with 5 wins. It might have been two but I do think they all won their bowl game as well.

[bcoach]

What I would really like to see is drop half the bowl games and make them really mean something. I have confidence we can do that year in and year out. Needing 6 wins is way too low a bar for our program. Talk about swallowing pride for some of these teams to go FCS. I would have to swallow an awful lot of pride to go to a bowl game with 6 wins. OR oh my lord how do I even say this....... 5 wins?

bbcoach, weren't there one or two 5-7 teams in bowl games this go round.

I thought it was three teams with 5 wins. It might have been two but I do think they all won their bowl game as well.

I believe there were three. It is starting to be "everybody gets a trophy". I know it isn't, but I wish it was an indication of a good season and not just a way to line some guys pockets.
Look at the season we had last year and we got the same reward a team with 5 win got.

[appst89]

Three 5-7 teams went to bowl games this year; 5-7 San Jose St. defeated Georgia St., 5-7 Minnesota defeated Central Michigan and 5-7 Nebraska defeated UCLA.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

What I would really like to see is drop half the bowl games and make them really mean something. I have confidence we can do that year in and year out. Needing 6 wins is way too low a bar for our program. Talk about swallowing pride for some of these teams to go FCS. I would have to swallow an awful lot of pride to go to a bowl game with 6 wins. OR oh my lord how do I even say this....... 5 wins?

bbcoach, weren't there one or two 5-7 teams in bowl games this go round.

I thought it was three teams with 5 wins. It might have been two but I do think they all won their bowl game as well.

I believe there were three. It is starting to be "everybody gets a trophy". I know it isn't, but I wish it was an indication of a good season and not just a way to line some guys pockets.
Look at the season we had last year and we got the same reward a team with 5 win got.

But do you really think a 10-2 G5 school would get a bowl game over a Prig5 school with a 7-5 record if there were less bowls.? I bet you would see a lot of deserving G5 schools not in a bowl at all so the SEC could get 5 or 6 schools in a bowl. I would prefer a smaller number of bowls but only if the bowls are done in a way to make sure final records play a huge part and not just conference affiliation.

[NewApp]

What I would really like to see is drop half the bowl games and make them really mean something. I have confidence we can do that year in and year out. Needing 6 wins is way too low a bar for our program. Talk about swallowing pride for some of these teams to go FCS. I would have to swallow an awful lot of pride to go to a bowl game with 6 wins. OR oh my lord how do I even say this....... 5 wins?

bbcoach, weren't there one or two 5-7 teams in bowl games this go round.

I thought it was three teams with 5 wins. It might have been two but I do think they all won their bowl game as well.

Good grief, McLeansvilleApp. 3 five win teams, was worse than I thought, but if it's true they won their 3 bowls out of the 40, that's commendable.

[appbio91]

What I would really like to see is drop half the bowl games and make them really mean something. I have confidence we can do that year in and year out. Needing 6 wins is way too low a bar for our program. Talk about swallowing pride for some of these teams to go FCS. I would have to swallow an awful lot of pride to go to a bowl game with 6 wins. OR oh my lord how do I even say this....... 5 wins?

bbcoach, weren't there one or two 5-7 teams in bowl games this go round.

I thought it was three teams with 5 wins. It might have been two but I do think they all won their bowl game as well.

I believe there were three. It is starting to be "everybody gets a trophy". I know it isn't, but I wish it was an indication of a good season and not just a way to line some guys pockets.
Look at the season we had last year and we got the same reward a team with 5 win got.

But do you really think a 10-2 G5 school would get a bowl game over a Prig5 school with a 7-5 record if there were less bowls.? I bet you would see a lot of deserving G5 schools not in a bowl at all so the SEC could get 5 or 6 schools in a bowl. I would prefer a smaller number of bowls but only if the bowls are done in a way to make sure final records play a huge part and not just conference affiliation.

I agree, we would lose in a scenario with less bowls if it were at large selection. I would like to see conference champions go to major bowls and then have less conference tie-in bowls. Set bar higher than 6 wins for sure. Although it looks like there will at least one more bowl in 2016. I somehow missed that the medal of honor bowl would now be a traditional bowl played on December 18 in Charleston. Anybody now what the tie-ins will be? Nice destination on my birthday!!!

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