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Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

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Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:16 pm

How long are the television rights for this current CFP in play for?

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:27 pm

"I really believe in this system, that if you play the right schedule, that you're going to have an opportunity to be in the discussion," said MWC commissioner Craig Thompson. "Will you be a semifinalist? Very challenging. But you will be in the conversation."

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:29 pm

"Each time there's been a change, it's been for the better," said Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson. "With all due respect to UCF, if we didn't have the system we have today, would they be playing in the Peach Bowl last week?"


Who wants to tell him? http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/340010239

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by AppNation85 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:30 pm

That was infuriating to read. All the G5 commissioners are bastards plain and simple.
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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by appst89 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:47 pm

They just don't want to say anything to tick off the P5 commissioners lest the CFP money dry up.

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:13 pm

What if the expansion didn't include a G5 autobid, I'd vote against that too.

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:21 pm

Paraphrasing a Scot Frost interview. The champion shouldn't be decided by a committee sitting in a conference room.

Until you give everyone an equal chance, it is always going to be debatable.

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Next up from the NCAA: Rotating Conferences- Every season all 128 teams go into a hat and they are picked one by one into a different conference
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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

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appaneer1984 wrote:
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Next up from the NCAA: Rotating Conferences- Every season all 128 teams go into a hat and they are picked one by one into a different conference
With our luck, we will be put in with Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St. Georgia, and the upper echelon.

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:14 pm

Personal conjecture...this is commissioner speak. Perhaps a proposed 8 team playoff model does not currently include a guaranteed G5 representative and they're waiting for a more favorable atmosphere.

Facts...since the implementation of the playoff the highest ranked G5s have been as follows:

Year - Team - (Record) - regular season P5 Wins (Bowl Results)
2017 - UCF (13-0) - N/A (Won bowl game vs Auburn)
2016 - W. Michigan (13-1) - Northwestern, Illinois (Lost bowl game vs Wisconsin)
2015 - Houston (13-1) - Louisville, Vandy (Won bowl game vs Florida State)
2014 - Boise St (12-2) - N/A (Won bowl game vs Arizona)

Final rankings:

2017 - UCF - TBD (Currently 10th)
2016 - W. Michigan - 15th
2015 - Houston - 8th
2014 - Boise St - 16th

On our radio show we discussed the following points: The committee has shown they value any and all wins over quality losses...therefore it behooves P5s to schedule a mediocre OOC schedule. G5s who aim to make a legitimate push for a playoff need to schedule as many P5s as possible and win them because none of our conference schedules are doing us any favors. Those two points play into each other.
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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by MountaineerMafia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:10 pm

UCF goes undefeated again next year and they may actually have a shot. Seriously, I think that's what it would take for a G5 to make the CFP. If UCF goes 12-0 next year will they really have the 'intestinal fortitude' to leave them out? I doubt it. But I think that's the only way a G5 team could ever sneak in, go undefeated twice in a row, it would be damn hard to argue they aren't one of the best 4 teams in the country.
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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by Goapps15 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:34 pm

Boise also has a shot next year. UCF was hurt by only 1 P5 game vs football mecca Maryland.

Western Michigan played Northwestern and Illinois.

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

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MountaineerMafia wrote:
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UCF goes undefeated again next year and they may actually have a shot. Seriously, I think that's what it would take for a G5 to make the CFP. If UCF goes 12-0 next year will they really have the 'intestinal fortitude' to leave them out? I doubt it. But I think that's the only way a G5 team could ever sneak in, go undefeated twice in a row, it would be damn hard to argue they aren't one of the best 4 teams in the country.
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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:49 pm

Heard one of the ESPN radio shows last Saturday and the guy made a great point- BCS college football is THE only major sport where, before the season starts,virtually half of the teams have zero chance to play for the championship, i.e. the G5’s. He was spot on. Basically a team like App would have to play and beat probably 4 good to really good P5 teams and hope their conference is competitive. Of course it’s about impossible to put that kind of schedule together years in advance and then hope for the perfect storm.

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

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bigdaddyg wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:49 pm
Heard one of the ESPN radio shows last Saturday and the guy made a great point- BCS college football is THE only major sport where, before the season starts,virtually half of the teams have zero chance to play for the championship, i.e. the G5’s. He was spot on. Basically a team like App would have to play and beat probably 4 good to really good P5 teams and hope their conference is competitive. Of course it’s about impossible to put that kind of schedule together years in advance and then hope for the perfect storm.
Half is a conservative estimate.

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:06 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:49 pm
Heard one of the ESPN radio shows last Saturday and the guy made a great point- BCS college football is THE only major sport where, before the season starts,virtually half of the teams have zero chance to play for the championship.
Forgive me because it's going to sound like I'm being pedantic but I promise I'm not...the BCS system no longer exists. I personally have fought the "FBS/FCS" and "1-AA is still division 1" fights for years. Let's get it right when talking about it. This is the college football playoff. Not the BCS.
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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:53 pm

Back to Benson: If you're not advocating for your conference's inclusion in the college football playoffs, then you're not doing your job.

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Re: Benson other G5 Commissioners Oppose Expansion

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:05 pm

APPdiesel wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:06 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:49 pm
Heard one of the ESPN radio shows last Saturday and the guy made a great point- BCS college football is THE only major sport where, before the season starts,virtually half of the teams have zero chance to play for the championship.
Forgive me because it's going to sound like I'm being pedantic but I promise I'm not...the BCS system no longer exists. I personable have found the "FBS/FCS" and "1-AA is still division 1" fights for years. Let's get it right when talking about it. This is the college football playoff. Not the BCS.
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