"(We have) a great product, but no one cares about the subdivision.”

http://investing.businessweek.com/resea ... &ticker=FB

Bam. There it is in black and white. Wonder how AGS would take that?

Its hard to imagine an AD that wasnt VERY confident about an invite making that statement.

This guy is only two or three years behind the curve in talking about the novel concept of a new conference formed by liked minded FCS move ups.

Yosef84 wrote:This guy is only two or three years behind the curve in talking about the novel concept of a new conference formed by liked minded FCS move ups.

For the most part, I wouldn't even call them like-minded FCS move-ups.

BTW, GSU just released their "strategic plan" for athletics also. Coincidence that they come out with one a few weeks after ours, or a sign of cooperation and selling the programs?

The new conference this guy talks about forming isn't any better than the current Sun Belt. I have never heard that Richmond has any interest in moving to FBS.

He takes a shot at the SBC due to some new programs. Conveniently forgets the brand new programs recently admitted into CUSA, our most likely other new home. Is forming a new conference really a viable option, with no guaranteed TV contract?

I still fail to see how anyone could say that creating a new conference entirely made up of former FCS teams is better than moving into an established FBS conference, even with some of the cons of the Sun Belt. The Sun Belt may be a low rung but it is established and sent several teams to bowls this past season. If we get an invite from them it's a no-brainer, same with GSoU.

Must be a Georgia grad. Contradicts himself with "small college programs" followed by "public schools with large enrollments". What a dunce.

I believe "small" pertains to their budget. GSU has historically ranked towards the bottom of the conference in regards to funding. Those days seem to be changing with the new leadership they have down there and the new fees the students passed. Couple that with their recent success (past too) and a rumored move to FBS, private, conference and sponsorship dollars should see a rise.

AppinVA wrote:

Yosef84 wrote:This guy is only two or three years behind the curve in talking about the novel concept of a new conference formed by liked minded FCS move ups.

For the most part, I wouldn't even call them like-minded FCS move-ups.

I can't disagree. I was using the standard verbiage from umpteen threads over the past two or three years.

Yosef84 wrote:

AppinVA wrote:

Yosef84 wrote:This guy is only two or three years behind the curve in talking about the novel concept of a new conference formed by liked minded FCS move ups.

For the most part, I wouldn't even call them like-minded FCS move-ups.

I can't disagree. I was using the standard verbiage from umpteen threads over the past two or three years.

Quoted from http://www.statesboroherald.com/section ... cle/48429/

Let’s look at where the Eagles are now. They’re in the Southern Conference, a league with like-minded institutions like Furman, Elon, Samford, Wofford, The Citadel and Davidson.

And by “like-minded,” I mean “total opposite of GSU.”

Really, the only SoCon programs the Eagles have anything in common with — large, regional, public universities — are Appalachian State, Chattanooga and Western Carolina, and maybe, even though they don’t play football, UNC Greensboro.
College of Charleston is even more of a stretch, and they’re leaving the SoCon for the Colonial Athletic Association, anyway.

Western Carolina students sometimes forget there are athletics on campus, Chattanooga is in a major city — which sometimes forgets there are athletics on campus (outside of the basketball season) — and Appalachian State is just as ready to get out of the SoCon as GSU.

Also, let’s face it, GSU is a football school.

The SoCon is a Football Championship Subdivision conference, which means while most of America is watching bowl games, a few loyal fans and curious outsiders are watching the FCS playoffs.
And the SoCon’s television deal doesn’t get any games on television, just an online channel that many internet providers don’t even offer.

So, what about the Sun Belt?

Well, they got four teams into Bowl games last season. According to Neilsen Ratings, bowl games, no matter how “irrelevant,” pretty much always rate higher than FCS playoff games, including the national championship.

Also, the Sun Belt has a television deal that actually puts football games, well, on television. There’s nothing wrong with the FCS, but it’s just a niche market in the landscape of college football, and moving up is clear-cut progress.

End of quoting ....

I think some at GSU are on the same page as APPState as far a the SB goes.

Maddog1956 wrote:

Yosef84 wrote:

AppinVA wrote:

Yosef84 wrote:This guy is only two or three years behind the curve in talking about the novel concept of a new conference formed by liked minded FCS move ups.

For the most part, I wouldn't even call them like-minded FCS move-ups.

I can't disagree. I was using the standard verbiage from umpteen threads over the past two or three years.

Quoted from http://www.statesboroherald.com/section ... cle/48429/

Let’s look at where the Eagles are now. They’re in the Southern Conference, a league with like-minded institutions like Furman, Elon, Samford, Wofford, The Citadel and Davidson.

And by “like-minded,” I mean “total opposite of GSU.”

Really, the only SoCon programs the Eagles have anything in common with — large, regional, public universities — are Appalachian State, Chattanooga and Western Carolina, and maybe, even though they don’t play football, UNC Greensboro.
College of Charleston is even more of a stretch, and they’re leaving the SoCon for the Colonial Athletic Association, anyway.

Western Carolina students sometimes forget there are athletics on campus, Chattanooga is in a major city — which sometimes forgets there are athletics on campus (outside of the basketball season) — and Appalachian State is just as ready to get out of the SoCon as GSU.

Also, let’s face it, GSU is a football school.

The SoCon is a Football Championship Subdivision conference, which means while most of America is watching bowl games, a few loyal fans and curious outsiders are watching the FCS playoffs.
And the SoCon’s television deal doesn’t get any games on television, just an online channel that many internet providers don’t even offer.

So, what about the Sun Belt?

Well, they got four teams into Bowl games last season. According to Neilsen Ratings, bowl games, no matter how “irrelevant,” pretty much always rate higher than FCS playoff games, including the national championship.

Also, the Sun Belt has a television deal that actually puts football games, well, on television. There’s nothing wrong with the FCS, but it’s just a niche market in the landscape of college football, and moving up is clear-cut progress.

End of quoting ....

I think some at GSU are on the same page as APPState as far a the SB goes.

Yep, very true. I'm just not sure why all that was typed while quoting my post. The reference to "like minded schools" in the article had nothing to do with SoCon or even the SunBelt. It had to do with a fantasy group of schools from FCS moving up and creating a new conference. AppinVA said that he wouldn't even consider them "like minded" and I couldn't disagree. Delaware is a huge state flagship. Richmond is a small private school with an excellent football program....so on and so forth.

If you look back at the posts from this and the old MMB regarding the creation of a fantasy conference, you will see numerous references to "creating a conference of like minded schools." That all that I was referencing.

The fact that the SoCon no longer contains many schools that GSU or App consider "like minded" is the reason most want to move up...or out. No doubt that the trend has been toward smaller private schools.