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[appgrad]

Seems like a lot of good stuff has happened since "the Cobb exit!"

What are those, exactly?

The Wake game was scheduled by Jay Sutton, and was in charge of scheduling games under Cobb as well. He is no longer employed by App either.

The football team started winning, with a coach hired while Cobb was AD, and in a league we got into while he was AD - thanks in large part to facility improvements, and increased fan engagement initiatives, that were prioritized and executed, very early on in his tenure.

We beat VT in hoops with a coach hired by Cobb.

After he left...they also fired the successful women's hoops coach that was hired under his watch.

Hmmm...

[WER4ASU]

I'm glad you agree that a lot of good things have happened since the "Cobb exit". It really makes no difference to me who gets the credit, it just seems to me that things are flowing nicely as they are now.

[appgrad]

I'm glad you agree that a lot of good things have happened since the "Cobb exit". It really makes no difference to me who gets the credit, it just seems to me that things are flowing nicely as they are now.

Things are going well - I hope no one thought one person made everything possible, or held that back from happening.

I know there were some feelings hurt by him leaving for a conference team, but people should realize he left an athletic department that is exponentially stronger, much better staffed, and much more prepared for the future, than the one he took over.

[WER4ASU]

I could not agree more.

[spong]

Rick Beasley has done a commendable job. He stepped up and hired the WBB coach when a lot of interim AD's would have found an interim coach. That so far seems like a very good hire. He's also got to bat for our boys with the NCAA and a bowl game; still probably won't happen but good to know he tried.

The fence seemed to be mended with Coach Moore, which isn't necessarily Beasley but is a nice bonus. Also big-props to the department for the way they promoted the Idaho game!

[T-Dog]

And the point of your analysis is? Why is it necessary to pick apart a comment when the intent of the comment is clear?

I am assuming the intent of the comment is the same as its substance. If that's the case, I picked it apart because I disagree with it.

If T-Dog's intended meaning was something different that what he actually wrote (e.g., he doesn't think Beasley should be the hire), then perhaps he will say so directly to clarify for me.

My point was that Beasley won't be the hire because we hired a search firm. Has nothing to do with personal feelings on the matter.

[bcoach]

Seems like a lot of good stuff has happened since "the Cobb exit!"

What are those, exactly?

The Wake game was scheduled by Jay Sutton, and was in charge of scheduling games under Cobb as well. He is no longer employed by App either.

The football team started winning, with a coach hired while Cobb was AD, and in a league we got into while he was AD - thanks in large part to facility improvements, and increased fan engagement initiatives, that were prioritized and executed, very early on in his tenure.

We beat VT in hoops with a coach hired by Cobb.

After he left...they also fired the successful women's hoops coach that was hired under his watch.

Hmmm...

First he had very little, oh let's just be honest and say he had nothing to do with the Mens BB hire and the ladies needed to go.

[EastHallApp]

And the point of your analysis is? Why is it necessary to pick apart a comment when the intent of the comment is clear?

I am assuming the intent of the comment is the same as its substance. If that's the case, I picked it apart because I disagree with it.

If T-Dog's intended meaning was something different that what he actually wrote (e.g., he doesn't think Beasley should be the hire), then perhaps he will say so directly to clarify for me.

My point was that Beasley won't be the hire because we hired a search firm. Has nothing to do with personal feelings on the matter.

Got it, that's what I thought. And my point was that I don't think hiring a search firm necessarily rules out the in-house candidate, or should rule him out. Simple disagreement, no big deal.

[appgrad]

Seems like a lot of good stuff has happened since "the Cobb exit!"

What are those, exactly?

The Wake game was scheduled by Jay Sutton, and was in charge of scheduling games under Cobb as well. He is no longer employed by App either.

The football team started winning, with a coach hired while Cobb was AD, and in a league we got into while he was AD - thanks in large part to facility improvements, and increased fan engagement initiatives, that were prioritized and executed, very early on in his tenure.

We beat VT in hoops with a coach hired by Cobb.

After he left...they also fired the successful women's hoops coach that was hired under his watch.

Hmmm...

First he had very little, oh let's just be honest and say he had nothing to do with the Mens BB hire and the ladies needed to go.

So, he only gets credit for the bad basketball hire... Not a seemingly good one? Got it.

Completely disagree on Women's coach needing to go. Torpedoed by the new adminstration not wanting to deal with a black eye.

[Yosef10]

And the point of your analysis is? Why is it necessary to pick apart a comment when the intent of the comment is clear?

I am assuming the intent of the comment is the same as its substance. If that's the case, I picked it apart because I disagree with it.

If T-Dog's intended meaning was something different that what he actually wrote (e.g., he doesn't think Beasley should be the hire), then perhaps he will say so directly to clarify for me.

My point was that Beasley won't be the hire because we hired a search firm. Has nothing to do with personal feelings on the matter.

Got it, that's what I thought. And my point was that I don't think hiring a search firm necessarily rules out the in-house candidate, or should rule him out. Simple disagreement, no big deal.

Why would you waste money we don't have on a search firm to search for the guy who's already in the position? You don't. At least I hope you don't....

[bcoach]

Seems like a lot of good stuff has happened since "the Cobb exit!"

What are those, exactly?

The Wake game was scheduled by Jay Sutton, and was in charge of scheduling games under Cobb as well. He is no longer employed by App either.

The football team started winning, with a coach hired while Cobb was AD, and in a league we got into while he was AD - thanks in large part to facility improvements, and increased fan engagement initiatives, that were prioritized and executed, very early on in his tenure.

We beat VT in hoops with a coach hired by Cobb.

After he left...they also fired the successful women's hoops coach that was hired under his watch.

Hmmm...

First he had very little, oh let's just be honest and say he had nothing to do with the Mens BB hire and the ladies needed to go.

So, he only gets credit for the bad basketball hire... Not a seemingly good one? Got it.

Completely disagree on Women's coach needing to go. Torpedoed by the new adminstration not wanting to deal with a black eye.

That is just it. He didn't make the good hire.
As far as the ladies It is obvious you don't understand and that is probably a good thing.

[asutrnr81]

Seems like a lot of good stuff has happened since "the Cobb exit!"

What are those, exactly?

The Wake game was scheduled by Jay Sutton, and was in charge of scheduling games under Cobb as well. He is no longer employed by App either.

The football team started winning, with a coach hired while Cobb was AD, and in a league we got into while he was AD - thanks in large part to facility improvements, and increased fan engagement initiatives, that were prioritized and executed, very early on in his tenure.

We beat VT in hoops with a coach hired by Cobb.

After he left...they also fired the successful women's hoops coach that was hired under his watch.

Hmmm...

First he had very little, oh let's just be honest and say he had nothing to do with the Mens BB hire and the ladies needed to go.

So, he only gets credit for the bad basketball hire... Not a seemingly good one? Got it.

Completely disagree on Women's coach needing to go. Torpedoed by the new adminstration not wanting to deal with a black eye.

That is just it. He didn't make the good hire.
As far as the ladies It is obvious you don't understand and that is probably a good thing.

I hope WE all hold ourselves to these same "high" standards......The person in charge gets credit and blame under their tenure.....good and bad....and I'd bet none of us know ALL that was going on with WBB.....and some of us would defend it if it had been a men's team.

[appgrad]

Seems like a lot of good stuff has happened since "the Cobb exit!"

What are those, exactly?

The Wake game was scheduled by Jay Sutton, and was in charge of scheduling games under Cobb as well. He is no longer employed by App either.

The football team started winning, with a coach hired while Cobb was AD, and in a league we got into while he was AD - thanks in large part to facility improvements, and increased fan engagement initiatives, that were prioritized and executed, very early on in his tenure.

We beat VT in hoops with a coach hired by Cobb.

After he left...they also fired the successful women's hoops coach that was hired under his watch.

Hmmm...

First he had very little, oh let's just be honest and say he had nothing to do with the Mens BB hire and the ladies needed to go.

So, he only gets credit for the bad basketball hire... Not a seemingly good one? Got it.

Completely disagree on Women's coach needing to go. Torpedoed by the new adminstration not wanting to deal with a black eye.

That is just it. He didn't make the good hire.
As far as the ladies It is obvious you don't understand and that is probably a good thing.

Pretty well filled in on women's situation, thanks. Disagree with it

[EastHallApp]

And the point of your analysis is? Why is it necessary to pick apart a comment when the intent of the comment is clear?

I am assuming the intent of the comment is the same as its substance. If that's the case, I picked it apart because I disagree with it.

If T-Dog's intended meaning was something different that what he actually wrote (e.g., he doesn't think Beasley should be the hire), then perhaps he will say so directly to clarify for me.

My point was that Beasley won't be the hire because we hired a search firm. Has nothing to do with personal feelings on the matter.

Got it, that's what I thought. And my point was that I don't think hiring a search firm necessarily rules out the in-house candidate, or should rule him out. Simple disagreement, no big deal.

Why would you waste money we don't have on a search firm to search for the guy who's already in the position? You don't. At least I hope you don't....

You aren't searching for a specific person, you're searching for the best candidate. Say you think the interim guy is a good candidate. How do you know if he is the best candidate if you don't consider anyone else?

[appgrad]

I am assuming the intent of the comment is the same as its substance. If that's the case, I picked it apart because I disagree with it.

If T-Dog's intended meaning was something different that what he actually wrote (e.g., he doesn't think Beasley should be the hire), then perhaps he will say so directly to clarify for me.

My point was that Beasley won't be the hire because we hired a search firm. Has nothing to do with personal feelings on the matter.

Got it, that's what I thought. And my point was that I don't think hiring a search firm necessarily rules out the in-house candidate, or should rule him out. Simple disagreement, no big deal.

Why would you waste money we don't have on a search firm to search for the guy who's already in the position? You don't. At least I hope you don't....

You aren't searching for a specific person, you're searching for the best candidate. Say you think the interim guy is a good candidate. How do you know if he is the best candidate if you don't consider anyone else?

Agree. Hiring an outside search firm will allow Beasley to be evaluated without bias. If it was done internally, he would have a decided advantage over outside candidates, fair or not.

[bcoach]

Pretty well filled in on women's situation, thanks. Disagree with it

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[Rick0714]

Darcie was a good coach, but at what cost? She needed to go. I have no idea how "filled-in" some people are, but I can see no reason why she should have stayed 1 second longer. She torpedo'ed herself for years. I honestly can't remember who hired Fox, and to be fair, a "powerful" alum hired Capel, Charlie just let him. Same alum was part of the "they", as in the "they want you gone" comment to Coach Moore, and, once again, Charlie was complicit. I'm not saying Charlie did a "bad' job, but he handled the Moore situation about as badly as it could have been done, but we all make mistakes, and he did some really good things. If you are going to give credit for the good, you must also deduct for the bad. It didn't help him that he had some pretty bad people skills.

[boonetown1]

Did this powerful alum have the initials JD?

[App91]

Did this powerful alum have the initials JD?

No