App State dorm bulletin board shames 'privileged' students

[bcoach]

You're lobbying for the RA's freedom of speech to be taken away while simultaneously whining about not being heard over all the people telling you that you're wrong. That's rich.

If the mere "term" of white privilege "doesn't help" then you don't know what it means, but please by all means continue to bury your head in the sand and ignore the statistics, experts, and common sense because of your butthurt.

The hypocrisy of it all reminds me of how so many are incapable of admitting that the Confederate army fought for slavery even though it was expressly written into their state constitutions and was the SOLE cause of the Civil War.

I could not have made my point any better than you just did. Thank you.

[Appsolutely]

This shouldn't surprise anybody: http://colleges.startclass.com/stories/ ... startclass

[appdaze]

Individual actions do not speak to an entire country's war aims. Here's an example of why I believe what I do (big picture):

The Confederacy had the key to winning the war in it's population the entire time, but it refused to utilize slaves as soldiers because of their beliefs. Slaves made up 1/3 of the South's population and had they been armed and allowed to wear the gray it very well could have swung the war back in their favor. Many Confederate governors and senators refused to allow it though because according to them it was antithetical to their entire cause and would prove that their way of life was incorrect (I don't feel like looking up quotes in the myriad books I have on the subject). When the Confederacy was on it's deathknell and had absolutely no other choice in March of '65, they finally relented and began to train slaves as soldiers.

The big picture is that the sectionalism was already occurring long before the civil war began and slavery was even an issue. Your argument was that slavery was the sole reason for the civil war and that couldn't be farther from the truth. Many of the memoirs and writings from people in the north pretty much show that they didn't care about slavery like modern Americans like to think that they did. Many were simply indifferent. The whole idea that the great patriotic north swooped down and saved all the poor slaves from the big bad south has been spread so deeply within out culture that the truth is just glossed over. Even Lincoln didn't care as much as people think about slavery. The emancipation proclamation was aimed at trying to win a war by sparking up part of a population to hopefully rise up and cause issues more so than ultimately free the slaves. Many people in the north did not want the slaves freed because they were afraid that they would come north and take their jobs. The owners could pay them less therefore more would eventually be hired so their fears came true. Again before you speak about the big picture please find out what the big picture is. You are focusing on a small corner of the big picture.

I didn't argue anything of the sort as far as the "Patriotic North". Your inferiority complex is showing. Much of the sectional discord was because the constitution was very vague about the issue of slavery.

Inferiority complex? wow. Alright this is my last post on this since you are apparently the god of knowledge and anyone that questions you must have a problem with themselves. My apologies great one. I should have known better than to attempt to discuss anything with someone who is clearly smarter than I could ever hope to be.

[NewApp]

You're lobbying for the RA's freedom of speech to be taken away while simultaneously whining about not being heard over all the people telling you that you're wrong. That's rich.

If the mere "term" of white privilege "doesn't help" then you don't know what it means, but please by all means continue to bury your head in the sand and ignore the statistics, experts, and common sense because of your butthurt.

The hypocrisy of it all reminds me of how so many are incapable of admitting that the Confederate army fought for slavery even though it was expressly written into their state constitutions and was the SOLE cause of the Civil War.

I could not have made my point any better than you just did. Thank you.

I find the term "white privilege" to be racist.

[WataugaMan]

You're lobbying for the RA's freedom of speech to be taken away while simultaneously whining about not being heard over all the people telling you that you're wrong. That's rich.

If the mere "term" of white privilege "doesn't help" then you don't know what it means, but please by all means continue to bury your head in the sand and ignore the statistics, experts, and common sense because of your butthurt.

The hypocrisy of it all reminds me of how so many are incapable of admitting that the Confederate army fought for slavery even though it was expressly written into their state constitutions and was the SOLE cause of the Civil War.

I could not have made my point any better than you just did. Thank you.

I find the term "white privilege" to be racist.

However, I find the term "white trash" to be okay.

[Appftw]

Individual actions do not speak to an entire country's war aims. Here's an example of why I believe what I do (big picture):

The Confederacy had the key to winning the war in it's population the entire time, but it refused to utilize slaves as soldiers because of their beliefs. Slaves made up 1/3 of the South's population and had they been armed and allowed to wear the gray it very well could have swung the war back in their favor. Many Confederate governors and senators refused to allow it though because according to them it was antithetical to their entire cause and would prove that their way of life was incorrect (I don't feel like looking up quotes in the myriad books I have on the subject). When the Confederacy was on it's deathknell and had absolutely no other choice in March of '65, they finally relented and began to train slaves as soldiers.

The big picture is that the sectionalism was already occurring long before the civil war began and slavery was even an issue. Your argument was that slavery was the sole reason for the civil war and that couldn't be farther from the truth. Many of the memoirs and writings from people in the north pretty much show that they didn't care about slavery like modern Americans like to think that they did. Many were simply indifferent. The whole idea that the great patriotic north swooped down and saved all the poor slaves from the big bad south has been spread so deeply within out culture that the truth is just glossed over. Even Lincoln didn't care as much as people think about slavery. The emancipation proclamation was aimed at trying to win a war by sparking up part of a population to hopefully rise up and cause issues more so than ultimately free the slaves. Many people in the north did not want the slaves freed because they were afraid that they would come north and take their jobs. The owners could pay them less therefore more would eventually be hired so their fears came true. Again before you speak about the big picture please find out what the big picture is. You are focusing on a small corner of the big picture.

I didn't argue anything of the sort as far as the "Patriotic North". Your inferiority complex is showing. Much of the sectional discord was because the constitution was very vague about the issue of slavery.

Inferiority complex? wow. Alright this is my last post on this since you are apparently the god of knowledge and anyone that questions you must have a problem with themselves. My apologies great one. I should have known better than to attempt to discuss anything with someone who is clearly smarter than I could ever hope to be.

I never even mentioned the North or that it fought altruistically to end slavery because it's not true (which makes your rant irrelevant), but it's certainly true that the South's gov't fought explicitly for slavery which is what I'm arguing and why the emancipation proclamation was issued. You said the British backed the North? Maybe the working masses, but both the French and British gov'ts would have gladly helped the South if it hadn't been for that whole slavery thing which you know, was central to the entire Southern cause.