Everts vote of confidence

[Stonewall]

Compared with her peers across the land, she’s no liberal. No where close. Given the times she compares favorably with her predecessors, at least the ones I’ve worked with. Chancellor B was likely the most left leaning. My observation anyway.

[boonetown1]

I think the university just made things worse.

[Rekdiver]

I think there were legitimate gripes a while back with App failing to appeal to and serve a broader socioeconomic demographic.

When you push the outdoors, skiing, hiking and camping in your marketing and advertising materials, it has a narrow appeal. Also, app has never been easily access able to student from less Privileged economic backgrounds in the long run. It’s inaccessible to most of NC without a personal vehicle unless you take the bus from Greensboro or hitch a ride or have a parent come pick you up whenever you want to go home. There is no guarantee of long term on campus housing so you’re on you own more often than not by your junior year and transfer students have never been guaranteed housing. You did your gen ed at community college in Raleigh and transferred to app? Good luck finding an affordable apartment and some roommates.

Public transportation to campus is extremely limited unless you’re in city limits. Find a cheaper apartment off the appalcart line? have fun unless you have a car. On campus jobs pay minimum wage and a lot of the higher paying seasonal jobs require a car to get to. So good luck working and saving through the summer up here unless you can afford a car. All of this added up to app frankly becoming a school with an extremely noticeable lack of diversity.

Now where I disagree with the sga is that app has looked in the mirror and tried to change the things within its control. The SGA has always been distracted by the low hanging fruit and never addressed the causes of these problems. They always just want to address the symptoms.

The app admin has changed its marketing to appeal to a broader base of HS students, new dorms are popping up like fire, they subsidize the appalcart system, and try to change the things within their control. Unfortunately the state isn’t gong to connect Boone to the Charlotte metro or add public transportation up here from the triad/ triangle so there are always things outside apps control. But, most importantly the app admin didn’t stick their head in the sand and they acknowledged there was/ is a problem. You can’t find solutions to a problem You don’t know exists. Never has anyone in the administration actively perused a less diverse student body/ faculty but therein lies the challenges. oftentimes these issues are unintended outcomes from things you never notice.

All the difficulties listed here are problems to be solved which ultimately make a person better and teach you to make sacrifices to achieve a goal. My family wasn't wealthy, I managed. It's not discriminatory, it's just hard.

Mike you need to read what the black students want. If you are white you already have a leg up

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I think there were legitimate gripes a while back with App failing to appeal to and serve a broader socioeconomic demographic.

When you push the outdoors, skiing, hiking and camping in your marketing and advertising materials, it has a narrow appeal. Also, app has never been easily access able to student from less Privileged economic backgrounds in the long run. It’s inaccessible to most of NC without a personal vehicle unless you take the bus from Greensboro or hitch a ride or have a parent come pick you up whenever you want to go home. There is no guarantee of long term on campus housing so you’re on you own more often than not by your junior year and transfer students have never been guaranteed housing. You did your gen ed at community college in Raleigh and transferred to app? Good luck finding an affordable apartment and some roommates.

Public transportation to campus is extremely limited unless you’re in city limits. Find a cheaper apartment off the appalcart line? have fun unless you have a car. On campus jobs pay minimum wage and a lot of the higher paying seasonal jobs require a car to get to. So good luck working and saving through the summer up here unless you can afford a car. All of this added up to app frankly becoming a school with an extremely noticeable lack of diversity.

Now where I disagree with the sga is that app has looked in the mirror and tried to change the things within its control. The SGA has always been distracted by the low hanging fruit and never addressed the causes of these problems. They always just want to address the symptoms.

The app admin has changed its marketing to appeal to a broader base of HS students, new dorms are popping up like fire, they subsidize the appalcart system, and try to change the things within their control. Unfortunately the state isn’t gong to connect Boone to the Charlotte metro or add public transportation up here from the triad/ triangle so there are always things outside apps control. But, most importantly the app admin didn’t stick their head in the sand and they acknowledged there was/ is a problem. You can’t find solutions to a problem You don’t know exists. Never has anyone in the administration actively perused a less diverse student body/ faculty but therein lies the challenges. oftentimes these issues are unintended outcomes from things you never notice.

All the difficulties listed here are problems to be solved which ultimately make a person better and teach you to make sacrifices to achieve a goal. My family wasn't wealthy, I managed. It's not discriminatory, it's just hard.

Mike you need to read what the black students want. If you are white you already have a leg up

I was a first generation college student, but I was white and male. I had some adversity but on top of that adversity I did NOT have to deal with racism nor sexism as a white male. It could have been a lot harder and I sure it would have been.

[T-Dog]

I think the university just made things worse.

Yep, they deleted the Student Takeover IG post and doubled down in their on statement. I'm seeing several students saying they would tell others not to attend App now. They also turned off comments to this post.

[boonetown1]

I don’t really know that much about everts, but I feel like I’ve never heard anything great. How long has she been here? 6 years? Might be time to get some fresh blood in there.

Aren’t chancellors like execs at companies? 5-7 years.

[appdaze]

I've never seen her ride a motorcycle in to kid brewer or be carried by the band around the field. Has she at least done the polar plunge? What about sledding down the hill behind the music building? Has she jumped down any steam vents? Has she dropped from the rafters of the Holmes center?

But seriously though, I just don't see her as much as I would like interacting in fun ways with the university community. It doesn't have to be Peacock level but at least half of that would be nice.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

From the post
"This was a difficult decision, as no one at App State wants to silence any voices. "

and yet they silenced some voices by deleting. They should have left it up and put up a reply if a reply was needed. And been done with it. That would have shown some courage on the part of the administration. That is not easy I realize but for what Dr. Everts and the upper admin team draw for a salary they should be able to take some heat.

When my twins were looking at colleges we toured Salem College in Winston-Salem. At the time Salem was having a bit of financial trouble it seems and some students were protesting, I think there was a sit-in going on even. I remember there were definitely some large banners hanging at the entrance to the building making a statement. The admins let the banners fly, almost as a point of pride that the students cared and were willing to speak up. The tour guide did not brush off the banners but mentioned that they see this as the women being strong and even if the admin did not agree with the students position the admin respected the difference of opinion and welcomed the discussion. I was impressed with how it was handled. My daughters did not go to Salem but it was never on the radar that much. They did walk away with the college in higher regard than before we arrived.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I've never seen her ride a motorcycle in to kid brewer or be carried by the band around the field. Has she at least done the polar plunge? What about sledding down the hill behind the music building? Has she jumped down any steam vents? Has she dropped from the rafters of the Holmes center?

But seriously though, I just don't see her as much as I would like interacting in fun ways with the university community. It doesn't have to be Peacock level but at least half of that would be nice.

Dr. Everts was touring dorms the day my daughter moved into White Hall 6 years ago. I think my wife and I were the first alumni parents of incoming 1st year students. She seemed good in small groups and such. Maybe she is a big introvert. Nothing wrong with that, as long as she can be a good administrator and move App State forward. Right now that does not seem to be happening.

With the fiasco that WCU and ECU have been through with new Chancellors I really hate to see App in the position to need a new Chancellor. The UNC Board has changed a bit but I don't trust them to do right by any school in this state and certainly not the schools away from the Triangle area.

To your post; finding a chancellor that is 1/8 of Peacock may be hard to do. Most academicians at that level are just not going to engage with students like Peacock did. They should at times, but they just don't. We seemed to have a few things collide together with winning football and a cheerleader for a chancellor that had a lot to cheer about in front of students. That is a lot more rare that it should be.

[T-Dog]

I don’t really know that much about everts, but I feel like I’ve never heard anything great. How long has she been here? 6 years? Might be time to get some fresh blood in there.

Aren’t chancellors like execs at companies? 5-7 years.

I'll start by saying I'm generally neutral toward Everts.

Everts was hated by some the day she was announced as Peacock's successor and that has colored some of the criticism. There's been ups and downs and to her credit, she's learned from some of the mistakes.

She's made a point of increasing the number of black students at App, which needed to happen. One negative is that her salary has increased several times, but that's more of a UNC BOG directive across the board than anything. She's had to operate under several mandates, such as enrollment increases, while facing numerous dilapidated campus buildings. Everts has stepped up and made several 50-year decisions.

And as others have said, I have no faith in the UNC BOG to select a new chancellor if Everts steps away after the fiascos at Western and ECU.

[mike87]

I think there were legitimate gripes a while back with App failing to appeal to and serve a broader socioeconomic demographic.

When you push the outdoors, skiing, hiking and camping in your marketing and advertising materials, it has a narrow appeal. Also, app has never been easily access able to student from less Privileged economic backgrounds in the long run. It’s inaccessible to most of NC without a personal vehicle unless you take the bus from Greensboro or hitch a ride or have a parent come pick you up whenever you want to go home. There is no guarantee of long term on campus housing so you’re on you own more often than not by your junior year and transfer students have never been guaranteed housing. You did your gen ed at community college in Raleigh and transferred to app? Good luck finding an affordable apartment and some roommates.

Public transportation to campus is extremely limited unless you’re in city limits. Find a cheaper apartment off the appalcart line? have fun unless you have a car. On campus jobs pay minimum wage and a lot of the higher paying seasonal jobs require a car to get to. So good luck working and saving through the summer up here unless you can afford a car. All of this added up to app frankly becoming a school with an extremely noticeable lack of diversity.

Now where I disagree with the sga is that app has looked in the mirror and tried to change the things within its control. The SGA has always been distracted by the low hanging fruit and never addressed the causes of these problems. They always just want to address the symptoms.

The app admin has changed its marketing to appeal to a broader base of HS students, new dorms are popping up like fire, they subsidize the appalcart system, and try to change the things within their control. Unfortunately the state isn’t gong to connect Boone to the Charlotte metro or add public transportation up here from the triad/ triangle so there are always things outside apps control. But, most importantly the app admin didn’t stick their head in the sand and they acknowledged there was/ is a problem. You can’t find solutions to a problem You don’t know exists. Never has anyone in the administration actively perused a less diverse student body/ faculty but therein lies the challenges. oftentimes these issues are unintended outcomes from things you never notice.

All the difficulties listed here are problems to be solved which ultimately make a person better and teach you to make sacrifices to achieve a goal. My family wasn't wealthy, I managed. It's not discriminatory, it's just hard.

Mike you need to read what the black students want. If you are white you already have a leg up

The difficulties and issues listed above are not black/white. Hiking, Skiing, enjoying the outdoors. Taking a bus or hitching a ride. Affordable housing and finding a room mate. Transportation, low paying jobs in town vs at the resorts. These are not the issues. Racism is the issue and it has come a long ways and yes, it does have a ways to go. But bringing issues of the past up as an excuse for not wanting to do the hard work of the present doesn't help anyone. We are doing incredible things for disadvantaged youth, black and white, which the above more relates to. I'm personally involved, if you think otherwise and that we are a racist country, I'd challenge you to visit the Boys and Girls club, or the YMCA and volunteer. I'd also argue that App is engaged, the narrative that they are not is false and I think lazy.