Timeline for getting AD candidates

[NewApp]

It goes without saying that former A.D. Charlie Cobb did great things for the ASU athletic program, but it needs to be remembered that he allowed his name to be put in the hat at various universities starting the second year at App including back at NC State. Of course some of that arguably was in using those efforts as bargaining chips for negotiating higher pay and benefits at Appalachian. Regardless, we benefitted greatly from having him here at ASU for the years he was employed.

[hapapp]

agree, the worst mistake we could make is to hire someone who already has one foot out the door before they start their position with App. I would expect the committee made it clear to any candidate that we expect them to honor their commitment to App and stay for an extended period of time. This might have played a factor in the Houston guy dropping out, I'm sure they saw the same thing you did, that he didn't stay anywhere for long, and that might have caused enough concern with the committee that both sides didn't feel comfortable moving forward, don't know, just speculation.

If that was a concern I doubt he makes the final four.

[TheMackAttack]

Hunter Yurachek was a competent and experienced candidate, but I'm actually happy that he withdrew his name. He's never stayed anywhere for very long' and wouldn't have stayed with us for longer than a cup of coffee. I mean *hello* he's only been at Houston for exactly 362 days--and he's already job-shopping????????????????????????? What can I say? He's spent his entire life in the Carolinas and Virginia until his move to Texas. Born in Richmond, educated at Guilford and UR and held positions in athletic admin. at WFU, WCU, UVA, Coastal Carolina and started a new job at Houston on Feb. 20, 2014. He's all about himself! Not Yosef! Good riddance.

Tomorrow, I may tell everybody how I really feel

Oh, BTW, I thought Marcy Girton was still at South Carolina. These folks keep a suitcase packed! That's a reality we'll need to internalize. Only the Peterson-Capel basketball capers kept Cobb around as long as he stayed.

Girton followed Hyman to A&M. She's been here a little over two and a half years.

[asu66]

Hunter Yurachek was a competent and experienced candidate, but I'm actually happy that he withdrew his name. He's never stayed anywhere for very long' and wouldn't have stayed with us for longer than a cup of coffee. I mean *hello* he's only been at Houston for exactly 362 days--and he's already job-shopping????????????????????????? What can I say? He's spent his entire life in the Carolinas and Virginia until his move to Texas. Born in Richmond, educated at Guilford and UR and held positions in athletic admin. at WFU, WCU, UVA, Coastal Carolina and started a new job at Houston on Feb. 20, 2014. He's all about himself! Not Yosef! Good riddance.

Tomorrow, I may tell everybody how I really feel

Oh, BTW, I thought Marcy Girton was still at South Carolina. These folks keep a suitcase packed! That's a reality we'll need to internalize. Only the Peterson-Capel basketball capers kept Cobb around as long as he stayed.

Girton followed Hyman to A&M. She's been here a little over two and a half years.

Yeah, I was somewhat familiar with her work at TCU; and knew she followed him to USC. Really never gave it another thought 'til this afternoon. I read she's worked for him since '99. Loyal staff member to stick with him for 15-16 years. Hyman's making around $1 Mil at A&M; wonder what Girton makes as his right hand? Her current salary could be a roadblock for us.

[TheMackAttack]

Hunter Yurachek was a competent and experienced candidate, but I'm actually happy that he withdrew his name. He's never stayed anywhere for very long' and wouldn't have stayed with us for longer than a cup of coffee. I mean *hello* he's only been at Houston for exactly 362 days--and he's already job-shopping????????????????????????? What can I say? He's spent his entire life in the Carolinas and Virginia until his move to Texas. Born in Richmond, educated at Guilford and UR and held positions in athletic admin. at WFU, WCU, UVA, Coastal Carolina and started a new job at Houston on Feb. 20, 2014. He's all about himself! Not Yosef! Good riddance.

Tomorrow, I may tell everybody how I really feel

Oh, BTW, I thought Marcy Girton was still at South Carolina. These folks keep a suitcase packed! That's a reality we'll need to internalize. Only the Peterson-Capel basketball capers kept Cobb around as long as he stayed.

Girton followed Hyman to A&M. She's been here a little over two and a half years.

Yeah, I was somewhat familiar with her work at TCU; and knew she followed him to USC. Really never gave it another thought 'til this afternoon. I read she's worked for him since '99. Loyal staff member to stick with him for 15-16 years. Hyman's making around $1 Mil at A&M; wonder what Girton makes as his right hand? Her current salary could be a roadblock for us.

$257,500 according to the Texas Tribune. It might be a little dated though, because my salary isn't current based on their website.

[T-Dog]

Paycuts are easier to swallow when you're running things and have a higher ceiling. Kind of like how top assistants take paycuts to be a head coach at a smaller school.

In this case, I can see the new AD's salary being around 2500-300k. We gotta keep up with the Sun Belt joneses.

[Rekdiver]

Hunter Yurachek was a competent and experienced candidate, but I'm actually happy that he withdrew his name. He's never stayed anywhere for very long' and wouldn't have stayed with us for longer than a cup of coffee. I mean *hello* he's only been at Houston for exactly 362 days--and he's already job-shopping????????????????????????? What can I say? He's spent his entire life in the Carolinas and Virginia until his move to Texas. Born in Richmond, educated at Guilford and UR and held positions in athletic admin. at WFU, WCU, UVA, Coastal Carolina and started a new job at Houston on Feb. 20, 2014. He's all about himself! Not Yosef! Good riddance.

Tomorrow, I may tell everybody how I really feel

Oh, BTW, I thought Marcy Girton was still at South Carolina. These folks keep a suitcase packed! That's a reality we'll need to internalize. Only the Peterson-Capel basketball capers kept Cobb around as long as he stayed.

Well your feelings are based on perception. Hunter turned down the inquiry because he just got to Houston. The timing was bad too or he would have taken the job. How do I know this? His parents are our neighbors in Charlotte. I've know him since he was 15. That's right Charlotte, where he went to high school and his brother went to App. He went to Guilford so he could play basketball. I mentioned his name before he took the job at Houston because he is an outstanding fundraiser and administrator and 180 degrees from anything we've ever had. So you tell us how you feel and I'll tell you what I know.

[asu66]

Hunter Yurachek was a competent and experienced candidate, but I'm actually happy that he withdrew his name. He's never stayed anywhere for very long' and wouldn't have stayed with us for longer than a cup of coffee. I mean *hello* he's only been at Houston for exactly 362 days--and he's already job-shopping????????????????????????? What can I say? He's spent his entire life in the Carolinas and Virginia until his move to Texas. Born in Richmond, educated at Guilford and UR and held positions in athletic admin. at WFU, WCU, UVA, Coastal Carolina and started a new job at Houston on Feb. 20, 2014. He's all about himself! Not Yosef! Good riddance.

Tomorrow, I may tell everybody how I really feel

Oh, BTW, I thought Marcy Girton was still at South Carolina. These folks keep a suitcase packed! That's a reality we'll need to internalize. Only the Peterson-Capel basketball capers kept Cobb around as long as he stayed.

Well your feelings are based on perception. Hunter turned down the inquiry because he just got to Houston. The timing was bad too or he would have taken the job. How do I know this? His parents are our neighbors in Charlotte. I've know him since he was 15. That's right Charlotte, where he went to high school and his brother went to App. He went to Guilford so he could play basketball. I mentioned his name before he took the job at Houston because he is an outstanding fundraiser and administrator and 180 degrees from anything we've ever had. So you tell us how you feel and I'll tell you what I know.

OK, here's my real feeling and what I know. I'm sorry that you took offense to my post. I said in my first statement that HY is both competent and experienced. I made mention of his NC roots and his ties to VA, NC and SC. Those are all marvelous things that would make him an ideal candidate for us.

I took for granted that his listing as a finalist was confirmation that he had made formal application for the position and that having become a finalist that he'd been formally interviewed by the search committee at least once; perhaps more.

I've followed his work with interest since he was put in the position of having to cut track & field and cross-country at Coastal Carolina. He handled that as professionally as possible in delivering the bad news to 70+ athletes and several coaches. Having been in a similar situation several times during my working career, I admired the way he conducted himself under pressure. I was also interested in the story of his hiring an apparent multi-millionaire as CCU's head coach when Dave Bennett was non-renewed.

I did take "exception" to him pursuing a new position less than a year after taking the position at Houston. If he did that, my feelings haven't changed.

On the other hand, if his name somehow got injected into the conversation based on your putting his name forward; and he didn't actively pursue the position--then I owe you and HY an humble apology. I can understand your strong feelings. You know him personally and you are a neighbor and friend of his family. You also admire him for who he is; where he came from and all the things he can do well.

My only lingering question is how he became one of four finalists w/o pursuing the position. Maybe the message board has fed us misinformation.

Regardless, it was not my intention to insult you or your friend. I just want what's best for our Alma Mater. The "less than one year thing" sticks in my craw no matter who the candidate is.

Peace

[dlh71]

Affordable salary, knowledge and experience in football, well respected, can meet and greet. If decision makers are reading this board, they have to be leaning toward Beasley. His best way to raise funds will be based on over all success of the athletic programs and engage more alumni and particularly former athletes to give back. A corporate home run would be great also but is very hard to come by. Especially when such a small percentage of our alumni are giving to Yosef.

[ASUMountaineer]

Hunter Yurachek was a competent and experienced candidate, but I'm actually happy that he withdrew his name. He's never stayed anywhere for very long' and wouldn't have stayed with us for longer than a cup of coffee. I mean *hello* he's only been at Houston for exactly 362 days--and he's already job-shopping????????????????????????? What can I say? He's spent his entire life in the Carolinas and Virginia until his move to Texas. Born in Richmond, educated at Guilford and UR and held positions in athletic admin. at WFU, WCU, UVA, Coastal Carolina and started a new job at Houston on Feb. 20, 2014. He's all about himself! Not Yosef! Good riddance.

Tomorrow, I may tell everybody how I really feel

Oh, BTW, I thought Marcy Girton was still at South Carolina. These folks keep a suitcase packed! That's a reality we'll need to internalize. Only the Peterson-Capel basketball capers kept Cobb around as long as he stayed.

Well your feelings are based on perception. Hunter turned down the inquiry because he just got to Houston. The timing was bad too or he would have taken the job. How do I know this? His parents are our neighbors in Charlotte. I've know him since he was 15. That's right Charlotte, where he went to high school and his brother went to App. He went to Guilford so he could play basketball. I mentioned his name before he took the job at Houston because he is an outstanding fundraiser and administrator and 180 degrees from anything we've ever had. So you tell us how you feel and I'll tell you what I know.

OK, here's my real feeling and what I know. I'm sorry that you took offense to my post. I said in my first statement that HY is both competent and experienced. I made mention of his NC roots and his ties to VA, NC and SC. Those are all marvelous things that would make him an ideal candidate for us.

I took for granted that his listing as a finalist was confirmation that he had made formal application for the position and that having become a finalist that he'd been formally interviewed by the search committee at least once; perhaps more.

I've followed his work with interest since he was put in the position of having to cut track & field and cross-country at Coastal Carolina. He handled that as professionally as possible in delivering the bad news to 70+ athletes and several coaches. Having been in a similar situation several times during my working career, I admired the way he conducted himself under pressure. I was also interested in the story of his hiring an apparent multi-millionaire as CCU's head coach when Dave Bennett was non-renewed.

I did take "exception" to him pursuing a new position less than a year after taking the position at Houston. If he did that, my feelings haven't changed.

On the other hand, if his name somehow got injected into the conversation based on your putting his name forward; and he didn't actively pursue the position--then I owe you and HY an humble apology. I can understand your strong feelings. You know him personally and you are a neighbor and friend of his family. You also admire him for who he is; where he came from and all the things he can do well.

My only lingering question is how he became one of four finalists w/o pursuing the position. Maybe the message board has fed us misinformation.

Regardless, it was not my intention to insult you or your friend. I just want what's best for our Alma Mater. The "less than one year thing" sticks in my craw no matter who the candidate is.

Peace

If he has spent his whole life in the NC, SC, VA area...perhaps he missed home more than anticipated after taking the job at UH. If so, it wouldn't be quite so bad as your initial perception. I have no idea, just trying to give him a little bit of the benefit of the doubt.

[asutrnr81]

I do not care who as long as it is good for the University and Athletics.

As for Rick, I am a fan.....but who knows if he would be right. But let me say, you never know how the #2 in charge would act if they were in charge unless they actually get the job.

My guess if he is the person for the job that he would be different as the leader than he was as the #2.

I REALLY dislike it when this board turns on someone just because they hAPPen to be from APP. That makes NO sense!

Mike Working and Jason Capel have been two of the worst hires EVER!....and we could have kept a pretty good assistant (Deberry), and not released one other HC (Fancher) when they were hired.....and been way better IMO.

[bcoach]

I do not care who as long as it is good for the University and Athletics.

As for Rick, I am a fan.....but who knows if he would be right. But let me say, you never know how the #2 in charge would act if they were in charge unless they actually get the job.

My guess if he is the person for the job that he would be different as the leader than he was as the #2.

I REALLY dislike it when this board turns on someone just because they hAPPen to be from APP. That makes NO sense!

Mike Working and Jason Capel have been two of the worst hires EVER!....and we could have kept a pretty good assistant (Deberry), and not released one other HC (Fancher) when they were hired.....and been way better IMO.

You know that is a very good point. I think he has already proven to be different in this role. If Rick wanted to keep his job he needed to toe the line. Under the other guy you did or you were going to be gone. He doesn't have to do that any more. I just think he would do a great job. He has so far. I kind of like the way BB is coming along. As far as fundraising there should be an assistant AD in charge of that anyway. I want the best for the program also, I just think if he is the choice we will be in good hands.

[APPARJ]

I do not care who as long as it is good for the University and Athletics.

As for Rick, I am a fan.....but who knows if he would be right. But let me say, you never know how the #2 in charge would act if they were in charge unless they actually get the job.

My guess if he is the person for the job that he would be different as the leader than he was as the #2.

I REALLY dislike it when this board turns on someone just because they hAPPen to be from APP. That makes NO sense!

Mike Working and Jason Capel have been two of the worst hires EVER!....and we could have kept a pretty good assistant (Deberry), and not released one other HC (Fancher) when they were hired.....and been way better IMO.

You know that is a very good point. I think he has already proven to be different in this role. If Rick wanted to keep his job he needed to toe the line. Under the other guy you did or you were going to be gone. He doesn't have to do that any more. I just think he would do a great job. He has so far. I kind of like the way BB is coming along. As far as fundraising there should be an assistant AD in charge of that anyway. I want the best for the program also, I just think if he is the choice we will be in good hands.

Wasn't Rick the AD in charge of fundraising under CC? That's an area where we are, in my opinion, severely lacking.

People that I trust that are a lot more connected than me believe Rick is a Yes Man and will do and say what he needs to do to get the job. He's more politician than a real AD, in that case.

I don't think anyone on this board can give a concrete example of something Rick has done that has positively affected the athletic department. I believe he hired the girl's bball coach but that's been a non-event thus far.

Good and LIKABLE guy but not someone who's going to blaze a new trail for App State athletics and shake things up IMO.

[bcoach]

I do not care who as long as it is good for the University and Athletics.

As for Rick, I am a fan.....but who knows if he would be right. But let me say, you never know how the #2 in charge would act if they were in charge unless they actually get the job.

My guess if he is the person for the job that he would be different as the leader than he was as the #2.

I REALLY dislike it when this board turns on someone just because they hAPPen to be from APP. That makes NO sense!

Mike Working and Jason Capel have been two of the worst hires EVER!....and we could have kept a pretty good assistant (Deberry), and not released one other HC (Fancher) when they were hired.....and been way better IMO.

You know that is a very good point. I think he has already proven to be different in this role. If Rick wanted to keep his job he needed to toe the line. Under the other guy you did or you were going to be gone. He doesn't have to do that any more. I just think he would do a great job. He has so far. I kind of like the way BB is coming along. As far as fundraising there should be an assistant AD in charge of that anyway. I want the best for the program also, I just think if he is the choice we will be in good hands.

Wasn't Rick the AD in charge of fundraising under CC? That's an area where we are, in my opinion, severely lacking.

People that I trust that are a lot more connected than me believe Rick is a Yes Man and will do and say what he needs to do to get the job. He's more politician than a real AD, in that case.

I don't think anyone on this board can give a concrete example of something Rick has done that has positively affected the athletic department. I believe he hired the girl's bball coach but that's been a non-event thus far.

Good and LIKABLE guy but not someone who's going to blaze a new trail for App State athletics and shake things up IMO.

Well you can throw in the Mens coach. The ladies coaching situation was far from a non event though.

[hapapp]

I do not care who as long as it is good for the University and Athletics.

As for Rick, I am a fan.....but who knows if he would be right. But let me say, you never know how the #2 in charge would act if they were in charge unless they actually get the job.

My guess if he is the person for the job that he would be different as the leader than he was as the #2.

I REALLY dislike it when this board turns on someone just because they hAPPen to be from APP. That makes NO sense!

Mike Working and Jason Capel have been two of the worst hires EVER!....and we could have kept a pretty good assistant (Deberry), and not released one other HC (Fancher) when they were hired.....and been way better IMO.

You know that is a very good point. I think he has already proven to be different in this role. If Rick wanted to keep his job he needed to toe the line. Under the other guy you did or you were going to be gone. He doesn't have to do that any more. I just think he would do a great job. He has so far. I kind of like the way BB is coming along. As far as fundraising there should be an assistant AD in charge of that anyway. I want the best for the program also, I just think if he is the choice we will be in good hands.

Wasn't Rick the AD in charge of fundraising under CC? That's an area where we are, in my opinion, severely lacking.

People that I trust that are a lot more connected than me believe Rick is a Yes Man and will do and say what he needs to do to get the job. He's more politician than a real AD, in that case.

I don't think anyone on this board can give a concrete example of something Rick has done that has positively affected the athletic department. I believe he hired the girl's bball coach but that's been a non-event thus far.

Good and LIKABLE guy but not someone who's going to blaze a new trail for App State athletics and shake things up IMO.

Well you can throw in the Mens coach. The ladies coaching situation was far from a non event though.

That was Cobb's hire.

[firemoose]

I do not care who as long as it is good for the University and Athletics.

As for Rick, I am a fan.....but who knows if he would be right. But let me say, you never know how the #2 in charge would act if they were in charge unless they actually get the job.

My guess if he is the person for the job that he would be different as the leader than he was as the #2.

I REALLY dislike it when this board turns on someone just because they hAPPen to be from APP. That makes NO sense!

Mike Working and Jason Capel have been two of the worst hires EVER!....and we could have kept a pretty good assistant (Deberry), and not released one other HC (Fancher) when they were hired.....and been way better IMO.

You know that is a very good point. I think he has already proven to be different in this role. If Rick wanted to keep his job he needed to toe the line. Under the other guy you did or you were going to be gone. He doesn't have to do that any more. I just think he would do a great job. He has so far. I kind of like the way BB is coming along. As far as fundraising there should be an assistant AD in charge of that anyway. I want the best for the program also, I just think if he is the choice we will be in good hands.

Wasn't Rick the AD in charge of fundraising under CC? That's an area where we are, in my opinion, severely lacking.

People that I trust that are a lot more connected than me believe Rick is a Yes Man and will do and say what he needs to do to get the job. He's more politician than a real AD, in that case.

I don't think anyone on this board can give a concrete example of something Rick has done that has positively affected the athletic department. I believe he hired the girl's bball coach but that's been a non-event thus far.

Good and LIKABLE guy but not someone who's going to blaze a new trail for App State athletics and shake things up IMO.

Well you can throw in the Mens coach. The ladies coaching situation was far from a non event though.

That was Cobb's hire.

Actually it was Bob McKillop's hire, if people want to keep it real.

[hapapp]

True!

[T-Dog]

Mrs. McKillop, if you want to keep it more real.

[proasu89]

Mrs. McKillop, if you want to keep it more real.

That's good to know. I wouldn't want to give Bob the credit.

[mtnjax]

If those 3 are the finalists, i'm calling Girton as the choice