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Re: New Chancellor
Did I stumble into a fashion show?
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Re: New Chancellor
How you came to the conclusion I wasn't giving her a shot is beyond me. I disagree someone with an overwhelming background in education - major, masters & Phd - is as qualified as someone coming from a heavily weighted business background like Ken Peacock. I did not say she isn't qualified - as you imply. It is my belief she was chosen as much for her background - which should calm the faculty - as much as anything else.asutrnr81 wrote:Gonzo and KGFISH later:Gonzo wrote:Dr. Sheri Noren
Well SHE better be a football fan.
Not too crazy about her education background. Business minds have gotten us this far.
In today's climate she better be able to build relationships. The reason KP was so successful was his ability to build relationships ACROSS backgrounds. And to assume that a person with an education background has no business acumen is erroneous. ...and you think she has no business background. Being the Provost and now the chancellor of any University is big business. Actually, the background in English may be of more benefit in creating arguable positions than a business background.
How 'bout we give the lady a shot!
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....i knew from the second I read her bio we were going to have this argument.
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Re: New Chancellor
Calm the faculty? This is campus politics we're speaking of. Dr. Everts is the chancellor-elect; chief university administrator. By definition, she is already the enemy. One good thing; as one currently serving her institution as Provost, she well knows where the faculty will be coming from.Kgfish wrote:How you came to the conclusion I wasn't giving her a shot is beyond me. I disagree someone with an overwhelming background in education - major, masters & Phd - is as qualified as someone coming from a heavily weighted business background like Ken Peacock. I did not say she isn't qualified - as you imply. It is my belief she was chosen as much for her background - which should calm the faculty - as much as anything else.asutrnr81 wrote:Gonzo and KGFISH later:Gonzo wrote:Dr. Sheri Noren
Well SHE better be a football fan.
Not too crazy about her education background. Business minds have gotten us this far.
In today's climate she better be able to build relationships. The reason KP was so successful was his ability to build relationships ACROSS backgrounds. And to assume that a person with an education background has no business acumen is erroneous. ...and you think she has no business background. Being the Provost and now the chancellor of any University is big business. Actually, the background in English may be of more benefit in creating arguable positions than a business background.
How 'bout we give the lady a shot!
To ALL:
....i knew from the second I read her bio we were going to have this argument.
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Re: New Chancellor
I get what you mean but it seems the majority of rabble rousers on the ASU campus come from the liberal arts side of things. At least she is coming in as one of their own and not some interloper with a business background who doesn't appreciate the real reason for attending college.asu66 wrote:Calm the faculty? This is campus politics we're speaking of. Dr. Evert is the chancellor-elect; chief university administrator. By definition, she is already the enemy. One good thing; as one currently serving her institution as Provost, she well knows where the faculty will be coming from.Kgfish wrote:How you came to the conclusion I wasn't giving her a shot is beyond me. I disagree someone with an overwhelming background in education - major, masters & Phd - is as qualified as someone coming from a heavily weighted business background like Ken Peacock. I did not say she isn't qualified - as you imply. It is my belief she was chosen as much for her background - which should calm the faculty - as much as anything else.asutrnr81 wrote:Gonzo and KGFISH later:Gonzo wrote:Dr. Sheri Noren
Well SHE better be a football fan.
Not too crazy about her education background. Business minds have gotten us this far.
In today's climate she better be able to build relationships. The reason KP was so successful was his ability to build relationships ACROSS backgrounds. And to assume that a person with an education background has no business acumen is erroneous. ...and you think she has no business background. Being the Provost and now the chancellor of any University is big business. Actually, the background in English may be of more benefit in creating arguable positions than a business background.
How 'bout we give the lady a shot!
To ALL:
....i knew from the second I read her bio we were going to have this argument.
BTW, this should ease some fears. While Mrs Everts was in the interview process to be S Alabama's President. Someone from school paper asked her...
"Where do you stand on the idea of a football stadium on campus?"
"I do not currently have enough information to make an informed comment on that specific idea, but I certainly love college football, and look forward to being a fan of USA football. In fact, I noticed that USA will play my old favorite team, the Nebraska Cornhuskers, in 2015. And I have already been to the exciting USA-Tulane football game."
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Re: New Chancellor
When the faculty gives the provost a no-confidence vote they aren't rabble rousers, they're a majority. And I have to imagine there were many who dislike the admin. but weren't willing to go as far as a no-confidence vote. I don't think you can pass off a majority of the faculty as liberals who don't get it without calling into question the value of ASU as an institution. This really is a mess. You're strategic vision isn't very serious when the faculty doesn't believe in it or you. Our new chancellor is going to have to reconcile these differences or clean house . . . she has some work cut out for her.Kgfish wrote:I get what you mean but it seems the majority of rabble rousers on the ASU campus come from the liberal arts side of things. At least she is coming in as one of their own and not some interloper with a business background who doesn't appreciate the real reason for attending college.
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Re: New Chancellor
If our faculty didn't believe in Peacock's vision for App we need new faculty, liberal/conservative, doesn't matter.
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I hope she is not another Mary Ann Foxx. First words out of her mouth were "we are going to win a NC" didn't work out so well. But I am sure she is a lot smarter than M A FGonzo wrote:I didn't mean to imply I was writing her off. Aside from that concern I'm optimistic. She seems like the type that can connect with students, something Peacock was so great at.
And the football shout outs at the beginning of her speech are at the very least an indication she's in touch with the culture of the school.
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Ummm....hello.....Let's have a black and gold party. You won't need a name tag.Watauga72 wrote:App74 wrote:Let's see what she's got. But she will need some training.DaphneUrquhart wrote:I understand those of you who are feeling a little underwhelmed right now. Remember, she was in Chapel Hill and may well have been encouraged in what she was to say by the BOG. Give her a chance to get on the mountain where the air and ideas are both fresh. I'm choosing to believe she's a great choice for App until or unless she proves that wrong.
Training note #1: When you are being announced as chancellor for Appalachian State, the proper attire is black and gold.
Ummm....hello.....The pictures show she WAS wearing black and gold at the announcement. Perhaps you are referring to the stock photo showing her in a red jacket???
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The press release said that she is an Education professor (Curriculum & Instruction) which is definitely not a liberal arts professor. They (the liberal arts guys) will be no happier with an education professor than with a business professor. In the eyes of many "real academics" (the liberal arts guys) those of us in the Colleges of Business and College of Education are not academics, just vocational teachers.Kgfish wrote:
I get what you mean but it seems the majority of rabble rousers on the ASU campus come from the liberal arts side of things. At least she is coming in as one of their own and not some interloper with a business background who doesn't appreciate the real reason for attending college.
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You said: "Like the fact she is from the Midwest. Seems like a safe hire who won't ruffle many feathers and appease a lot of factions on campus. Interesting we hire someone with a education background given the university has been moving towards the business side."Kgfish wrote:How you came to the conclusion I wasn't giving her a shot is beyond me. I disagree someone with an overwhelming background in education - major, masters & Phd - is as qualified as someone coming from a heavily weighted business background like Ken Peacock. I did not say she isn't qualified - as you imply. It is my belief she was chosen as much for her background - which should calm the faculty - as much as anything else.asutrnr81 wrote:Gonzo and KGFISH later:Gonzo wrote:Dr. Sheri Noren
Well SHE better be a football fan.
Not too crazy about her education background. Business minds have gotten us this far.
In today's climate she better be able to build relationships. The reason KP was so successful was his ability to build relationships ACROSS backgrounds. And to assume that a person with an education background has no business acumen is erroneous. ...and you think she has no business background. Being the Provost and now the chancellor of any University is big business. Actually, the background in English may be of more benefit in creating arguable positions than a business background.
How 'bout we give the lady a shot!
To ALL:
....i knew from the second I read her bio we were going to have this argument.
It was at least the second comment about her education background as if she couldn't lead with that background. Given the lay of the land a public education background may be the best person to lead these days given all the unfounded attacks.
Go APPS!
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I have a feeling checkered jackets will be a trademark with Dr Everts, kind of like how Dr Loftin of TA&M always wore a bowtie.
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I think I am missing something. Ken Peacock was basically a career educator as well. He worked as an accountant and auditor for a short time before getting into education in 1980. I Don't think counting beans and teaching bean counting constitutes a heavy business background. I would bet you that if asked Peacock would describe himself as a career educator. I am excited about Dr. Everts and her education background in my opinion is a plus.
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Dr. Everts has my full support unless she later proves unworthy. Frankly, I don't care if her doctorate is in welding. I submit it was a goal of the search committee (perhaps unsaid but understood) that the new chancellor would be a female and I'm OK with that.
From Washington to small town politics/society, we are a nation gripped by political correctness of which the main belief is that everyone can be satisfied. (See how that is working in Washington today or on Yosef's Cabin for that matter.) Political correctness is not going away any time soon. With a rookie female chancellor, we can use the abyss of political correctness to our benefit. If Dr. Everts will establish herself as an assertive, objective leader, the heads in Raleigh must take greater notice for fear of being recognized as politically incorrect. I believe she can accomplish many things if she forceful enough.
Finally, for those of you that want to refer to Ken Peacock as a "bean counter", let me remind you that thanks to his service, dedication, focus and leadership, Appalachian State has a lot more beans to count.
From Washington to small town politics/society, we are a nation gripped by political correctness of which the main belief is that everyone can be satisfied. (See how that is working in Washington today or on Yosef's Cabin for that matter.) Political correctness is not going away any time soon. With a rookie female chancellor, we can use the abyss of political correctness to our benefit. If Dr. Everts will establish herself as an assertive, objective leader, the heads in Raleigh must take greater notice for fear of being recognized as politically incorrect. I believe she can accomplish many things if she forceful enough.
Finally, for those of you that want to refer to Ken Peacock as a "bean counter", let me remind you that thanks to his service, dedication, focus and leadership, Appalachian State has a lot more beans to count.
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I am excited about Dr. Everts and her education background in my opinion is a plus.
Could be. Diversity in thought, perspective, and skill set is a good thing and I'm not convinced that another accounting professor or business school dean is the right choice at this point in time. Strong leaders come from various backgrounds, many outside of a business school education. Thinking back, previous Chancellor have had backgrounds in Education, Engineering/Law, Music, and Accounting. Each served us well for their time. Dr. Everts appears to have much in common with Dr. Herbert Wey, who also started out teaching in the classroom before moving into the University setting. Most importantly, Dr. Everts seems to have plenty of leadership experience in University Administration that should serve her well during her time at ASU.
Could be. Diversity in thought, perspective, and skill set is a good thing and I'm not convinced that another accounting professor or business school dean is the right choice at this point in time. Strong leaders come from various backgrounds, many outside of a business school education. Thinking back, previous Chancellor have had backgrounds in Education, Engineering/Law, Music, and Accounting. Each served us well for their time. Dr. Everts appears to have much in common with Dr. Herbert Wey, who also started out teaching in the classroom before moving into the University setting. Most importantly, Dr. Everts seems to have plenty of leadership experience in University Administration that should serve her well during her time at ASU.
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It's hard to tell with a couple of quick video clips, but she seems to me very well spoken, and even with everything being new and so much going on, she never gave the "deer caught in headlights" look.
She wasn't beyond having her hair messed up by putting a ballcap on and from what I can tell she honestly seems enjoy being social.
Any of this could be an act, but let's face it, some people in education do it because they truly enjoy being around young people and being responsible for their growth. This makes me feel that she can put not only her mind but her heart behind things she cares about.
Being well spoken should be a plus in promoting App and from what she knew about APP I think she is one that prepare herself and does her homework which is a + for me. We don't need someone just here to be lazy.
She wasn't beyond having her hair messed up by putting a ballcap on and from what I can tell she honestly seems enjoy being social.
Any of this could be an act, but let's face it, some people in education do it because they truly enjoy being around young people and being responsible for their growth. This makes me feel that she can put not only her mind but her heart behind things she cares about.
Being well spoken should be a plus in promoting App and from what she knew about APP I think she is one that prepare herself and does her homework which is a + for me. We don't need someone just here to be lazy.

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I am not saying otherwise. We will miss him for a lot of reasons. I am just pointing out that he did not bring some vast businessman experience to the job of chancellor as some are insinuating. Bean counter was not meant as a slight. Most would not take it that way eaither.App74 wrote:
Finally, for those of you that want to refer to Ken Peacock as a "bean counter", let me remind you that thanks to his service, dedication, focus and leadership, Appalachian State has a lot more beans to count.
I also think we demean our Board of Trustees with all the veiled chauvinistic comments that suggest Everts was hired for political correctness reasons. I am sure there was an effort to be sure we had strong female candidates in the process. I am thrilled that one of them in the end was determined to be the strongest candidate.
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I assume that she was playing to the interviewer and implying that the University of South Alabama Jaguars are her "new favorite team". Interesting, though, that she doesn't mention the Illinois State RedBirds as her "old favorite team", but rather the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Surely everyone here remembers the RedBirds' last visit to Boone?Kgfish wrote:BTW, this should ease some fears. While Mrs Everts was in the interview process to be S Alabama's President. Someone from school paper asked her...
"Where do you stand on the idea of a football stadium on campus?"
"I do not currently have enough information to make an informed comment on that specific idea, but I certainly love college football, and look forward to being a fan of USA football. In fact, I noticed that USA will play my old favorite team, the Nebraska Cornhuskers, in 2015. And I have already been to the exciting USA-Tulane football game."
it's a good thing we're FBS, otherwise Sheri might still be pulling for the Cornhuskers!!
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Would your alma mater become your "old favorite team?" I don't read much into that, but she's clearly smart enough not to bring up Illinois State.sonsofyosef wrote:I assume that she was playing to the interviewer and implying that the University of South Alabama Jaguars are her "new favorite team". Interesting, though, that she doesn't mention the Illinois State RedBirds as her "old favorite team", but rather the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Surely everyone here remembers the RedBirds' last visit to Boone?Kgfish wrote:BTW, this should ease some fears. While Mrs Everts was in the interview process to be S Alabama's President. Someone from school paper asked her...
"Where do you stand on the idea of a football stadium on campus?"
"I do not currently have enough information to make an informed comment on that specific idea, but I certainly love college football, and look forward to being a fan of USA football. In fact, I noticed that USA will play my old favorite team, the Nebraska Cornhuskers, in 2015. And I have already been to the exciting USA-Tulane football game."
it's a good thing we're FBS, otherwise Sheri might still be pulling for the Cornhuskers!!
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Post of the Month at least.....wish I had said it!App74 wrote:Dr. Everts has my full support unless she later proves unworthy. Frankly, I don't care if her doctorate is in welding. I submit it was a goal of the search committee (perhaps unsaid but understood) that the new chancellor would be a female and I'm OK with that.
From Washington to small town politics/society, we are a nation gripped by political correctness of which the main belief is that everyone can be satisfied. (See how that is working in Washington today or on Yosef's Cabin for that matter.) Political correctness is not going away any time soon. With a rookie female chancellor, we can use the abyss of political correctness to our benefit. If Dr. Everts will establish herself as an assertive, objective leader, the heads in Raleigh must take greater notice for fear of being recognized as politically incorrect. I believe she can accomplish many things if she forceful enough.
Finally, for those of you that want to refer to Ken Peacock as a "bean counter", let me remind you that thanks to his service, dedication, focus and leadership, Appalachian State has a lot more beans to count.
Go APPS!