King Street Flooded

[rbarthle17]

If there is anyway for insurance companies to look at something in point to it and say "not my problem", They 100% Will. Just look at Florida and how insane things have gotten with insurance bailing on people left and right every time a major storm hits. I'm not sure how many places there would have been considered in a flood zone And historically for me the many times I've moved if I'm not in an area that's a flood zone I'm actually pressured more often to not waste my time and get it. But I always have had flood insurance for everywhere I've lived.

[ASUFan4863]

Where did the water come from that flooded king street? I know there is a creek closer to rivers street but the flooding wasn’t deep enough for that creek to go all the way up to King St. Could the drains just not keep up with the rain or there another creek I’m missing?

[311neers]

Where did the water come from that flooded king street? I know there is a creek closer to rivers street but the flooding wasn’t deep enough for that creek to go all the way up to King St. Could the drains just not keep up with the rain or there another creek I’m missing?

Had to be watershed flow from the southside of the mountain northwest of town (forgetting name) and Howards Knob runoff. All that water was swiftly heading down 321/King Street towards Boone Creek along Rivers.

[Bigdaddyg1]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

[BambooRdApp]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

Agreed. I took a picture of my daughter in the creek behind our rental. Water above her ankles and creek was 100 to 200 feet wide.. Friday morning, water would have been over her head...and was a raging river 75 to 100 yards wide.

[ASUFan4863]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

You are right. Most of Boone, Asheville and the surrounding attraction areas will be rebuilt eventually but the small towns without tourism/commerce may be gone forever. Where will the money and manpower come from months down the road? People have no choice but to leave. It is a sad thought.

[biggie]

https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-he ... 5e81dcdc5b

Asheville will probably have it worse on tourism. I'd say Boone should be able to recover faster and hopefully winter activities helps cover some of what is lost in fall.

[1997CLT]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

Agreed. I took a picture of my daughter in the creek behind our rental. Water above her ankles and creek was 100 to 200 feet wide.. Friday morning, water would have been over her head...and was a raging river 75 to 100 yards wide.

The New River in Tood is normally waist deep. Gauges showed it rose to over 15' and flooded basements of houses 200' away.

[rbarthle17]

You are right. Most of Boone, Asheville and the surrounding attraction areas will be rebuilt eventually but the small towns without tourism/commerce may be gone forever. Where will the money and manpower come from months down the road? People have no choice but to leave. It is a sad thought.

Every year we are experiencing new types of "once in a lifetime" weather events. "Why" doesn't matter, the fact is they are happening so often we have to start expecting them to happen. I think one of the things you are going to see is areas rebuilt are going to more tightly packed. If a small town is wiped out, they won't rebuild it as often and instead focus on moving the people closer together to other existing and stable areas so there is less area to have to fix the next time. Use Florida as the example here, insurance companies have no interest in rebuilding the same places over and over again so they will make it so those areas they have to cover are fewer.

[biggie]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

Agreed. I took a picture of my daughter in the creek behind our rental. Water above her ankles and creek was 100 to 200 feet wide.. Friday morning, water would have been over her head...and was a raging river 75 to 100 yards wide.

The New River in Tood is normally waist deep. Gauges showed it rose to over 15' and flooded basements of houses 200' away.

Friend has a house on the river in Todd, they were at their house down here last Friday but their neighbor sent pics before evacuating at 3pm. Normally it is a 40-50 yard walk from their house down to the bank of the river. At 3pm the water was about 15ft away from their basement. Based on that pic he sent it looked like 30ft deep at his house. No word if it actually got into their house yet.

I know the restaurant/historical building just up the river from them and just down from Todd Island park got completely wiped out.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/W5qx7Ri9CKTja3A8/

[biggie]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

Agreed. I took a picture of my daughter in the creek behind our rental. Water above her ankles and creek was 100 to 200 feet wide.. Friday morning, water would have been over her head...and was a raging river 75 to 100 yards wide.

The New River in Tood is normally waist deep. Gauges showed it rose to over 15' and flooded basements of houses 200' away.

Friend has a house on the river in Todd, they were at their house down here last Friday but their neighbor sent pics before evacuating at 3pm. Normally it is a 40-50 yard walk from their house down to the bank of the river. At 3pm the water was about 15ft away from their basement. Based on that pic he sent it looked like 30ft deep at his house. No word if it actually got into their house yet.

I know the restaurant/historical building just up the river from them and just down from Todd Island park got completely wiped out.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/W5qx7Ri9CKTja3A8/

[appstatealum]

You are right. Most of Boone, Asheville and the surrounding attraction areas will be rebuilt eventually but the small towns without tourism/commerce may be gone forever. Where will the money and manpower come from months down the road? People have no choice but to leave. It is a sad thought.

Every year we are experiencing new types of "once in a lifetime" weather events. "Why" doesn't matter, the fact is they are happening so often we have to start expecting them to happen. I think one of the things you are going to see is areas rebuilt are going to more tightly packed. If a small town is wiped out, they won't rebuild it as often and instead focus on moving the people closer together to other existing and stable areas so there is less area to have to fix the next time. Use Florida as the example here, insurance companies have no interest in rebuilding the same places over and over again so they will make it so those areas they have to cover are fewer.

We assume they are once in a lifetime, but likely not. Plenty of undocumented history has happened. For me, events like this humble me to know creation is much larger and uncontrollable than we can grasp. New River was carved long before the mountains rose around it. We are part of nature, and we are subject to it just like everything else.

[1997CLT]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

Agreed. I took a picture of my daughter in the creek behind our rental. Water above her ankles and creek was 100 to 200 feet wide.. Friday morning, water would have been over her head...and was a raging river 75 to 100 yards wide.

The New River in Tood is normally waist deep. Gauges showed it rose to over 15' and flooded basements of houses 200' away.

Friend has a house on the river in Todd, they were at their house down here last Friday but their neighbor sent pics before evacuating at 3pm. Normally it is a 40-50 yard walk from their house down to the bank of the river. At 3pm the water was about 15ft away from their basement. Based on that pic he sent it looked like 30ft deep at his house. No word if it actually got into their house yet.

I know the restaurant/historical building just up the river from them and just down from Todd Island park got completely wiped out.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/W5qx7Ri9CKTja3A8/

Yep, and they just reopened a few months ago. Nobody knows the real reason they shut down (well SOMEONE knows, but it's not public as far as I know). Their FB posts were rather cryptic with something like the town/county is imposing regulations on them which makes it impossible to turn a profit. I suspect neighbors either complained about music/bands or perhaps it was the alcohol sales. Either way, that restaurant was AWESOME and I hope it comes back.

[biggie]

It’s amazing how a seemingly benign creek can turn into a raging river during these storms. We had a few here in Fayetteville a few years ago. A creek downtown that you never notice overflowed and flooded parking lots. We have a “small creek” in my neighborhood that overflowed and filled an area beside a house that all of a sudden looked like a pond. A small pond in an adjoining neighborhood overflowed as well and took out a bridge. It took about 2 years and probably millions to fix it. There simply isn’t a pot of money laying around to fix everything destroyed in the mountains. I’m afraid some places will simply become wasteland

Agreed. I took a picture of my daughter in the creek behind our rental. Water above her ankles and creek was 100 to 200 feet wide.. Friday morning, water would have been over her head...and was a raging river 75 to 100 yards wide.

The New River in Tood is normally waist deep. Gauges showed it rose to over 15' and flooded basements of houses 200' away.

Friend has a house on the river in Todd, they were at their house down here last Friday but their neighbor sent pics before evacuating at 3pm. Normally it is a 40-50 yard walk from their house down to the bank of the river. At 3pm the water was about 15ft away from their basement. Based on that pic he sent it looked like 30ft deep at his house. No word if it actually got into their house yet.

I know the restaurant/historical building just up the river from them and just down from Todd Island park got completely wiped out.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/W5qx7Ri9CKTja3A8/

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=67034A99

Yep, and they just reopened a few months ago. Nobody knows the real reason they shut down (well SOMEONE knows, but it's not public as far as I know). Their FB posts were rather cryptic with something like the town/county is imposing regulations on them which makes it impossible to turn a profit. I suspect neighbors either complained about music/bands or perhaps it was the alcohol sales. Either way, that restaurant was AWESOME and I hope it comes back.

It was new owners that recently reopened it, just had a similar name. New owners also own Ashe County towing, talked to them a little bit and their daughter waited on us a few times, she was starting at App this semester.

Believe it was a rent increase that caused the previous one to close. I was up there and ate there 2-3 times in the middle of Aug as we did our fantasy football draft at my friends house for 4-5 days. Food wasn't quite as good as the old place, but was still good. They actually had a full bar in the new version and seemed to pull people in just for the bar on Friday/Saturday night.

[biggie]

Univ posted a video around campus/town.

https://fb.watch/u_mMIt0yK9/

[Bootsy]

If anything good has come out of all this, it's watching how people are readily helping one another in a very difficult time.

[BambooRdApp]

Interactive map to see some of the effects of Helene.

https://x.com/EFisherWX/status/18512418 ... prhVg&s=09

[spacemonkey]

The markets will take care of some of the rebuild places. Insurance companies are some of the smartest organizations on earth. If they won't offer insurance, it won't be rebuilt. (Looking at you Florida) It will be hard to get a loan without an insurance company being willing to insure it. Eventually people will have to look to other safer locations. I imagine the lots along rivers just got more expensive and flood plains got expanded on the insurance company books in NC.

[pop5app]

You are right. Most of Boone, Asheville and the surrounding attraction areas will be rebuilt eventually but the small towns without tourism/commerce may be gone forever. Where will the money and manpower come from months down the road? People have no choice but to leave. It is a sad thought.

Every year we are experiencing new types of "once in a lifetime" weather events. "Why" doesn't matter, the fact is they are happening so often we have to start expecting them to happen. I think one of the things you are going to see is areas rebuilt are going to more tightly packed. If a small town is wiped out, they won't rebuild it as often and instead focus on moving the people closer together to other existing and stable areas so there is less area to have to fix the next time. Use Florida as the example here, insurance companies have no interest in rebuilding the same places over and over again so they will make it so those areas they have to cover are fewer.

I’m with you 17. Doesn’t mater to me right now why . Seems to me we should agree that something out of the ordinary is happening and try to prepare.