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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by T-Dog » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:03 pm

Brief interview with Dr Everts. http://appalachianmagazine.org/podcasts/id/395

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by appstate77 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:17 pm

T-Dog wrote:Brief interview with Dr Everts. http://appalachianmagazine.org/podcasts/id/395
Wonderful interview. I am very impressed with Dr. Everts. She strikes me as very human---she doesn't like chocolate!--and very real in that she is student focused. I look forward to meeting her. :D

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:25 pm

I listened. She is articulate. I am anxious to hear her delve into specific priorities and efforts. Judgement is reserved until then. I do imagine we will start to see some of the good old boy bureaucracy start to turn over after a year. Has anyone heard what KP plans to do?

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:01 pm

Rekdiver wrote: Has anyone heard what KP plans to do?
KP said he will be looking to spend A LOT of time with the Grands.

He also said he would engage in ANY....IF ANY role the new chancellor would have him serve. He is willing to disappear or be involved....so.....if you do not see KP you can "guess" that would be because Dr. Everts does not think it a good idea for him to be around.

He was very sincere and NOT egotistical at all during the conversation!

His eyes were passionate when he talked about the grands!

....I have no intell about Everts but it would surprise me some if KP did not have some role at ASU!
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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Kgfish » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:28 am

newtoasu wrote:
Kgfish wrote:
I get what you mean but it seems the majority of rabble rousers on the ASU campus come from the liberal arts side of things. At least she is coming in as one of their own and not some interloper with a business background who doesn't appreciate the real reason for attending college.
The press release said that she is an Education professor (Curriculum & Instruction) which is definitely not a liberal arts professor. They (the liberal arts guys) will be no happier with an education professor than with a business professor. In the eyes of many "real academics" (the liberal arts guys) those of us in the Colleges of Business and College of Education are not academics, just vocational teachers.
I understand her career has not been immersed in Liberal Arts but her undergraduate degree in English Instruction is most certainly a discipline under that umbrella.
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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Kgfish » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:34 am

asutrnr81 wrote:
Kgfish wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:Dr. Sheri Noren

Well SHE better be a football fan.

Not too crazy about her education background. Business minds have gotten us this far.
Gonzo and KGFISH later:

In today's climate she better be able to build relationships. The reason KP was so successful was his ability to build relationships ACROSS backgrounds. And to assume that a person with an education background has no business acumen is erroneous. ...and you think she has no business background. Being the Provost and now the chancellor of any University is big business. Actually, the background in English may be of more benefit in creating arguable positions than a business background.

How 'bout we give the lady a shot!

To ALL:
....i knew from the second I read her bio we were going to have this argument.
How you came to the conclusion I wasn't giving her a shot is beyond me. I disagree someone with an overwhelming background in education - major, masters & Phd - is as qualified as someone coming from a heavily weighted business background like Ken Peacock. I did not say she isn't qualified - as you imply. It is my belief she was chosen as much for her background - which should calm the faculty - as much as anything else.
You said: "Like the fact she is from the Midwest. Seems like a safe hire who won't ruffle many feathers and appease a lot of factions on campus. Interesting we hire someone with a education background given the university has been moving towards the business side."

It was at least the second comment about her education background as if she couldn't lead with that background. Given the lay of the land a public education background may be the best person to lead these days given all the unfounded attacks.
You read a lot more into statements than is there and make a lot of assumptions. I didn't come close to saying she couldn't "lead" due to her education background.
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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:40 am

What is funny about this whole thing is that we know even less about how to run a university and who should do it than we do about how to run a DIV 1 basketball team and who should do it. :lol:

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Kgfish » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:55 am

App74 wrote:
I also think we demean our Board of Trustees with all the veiled chauvinistic comments that suggest Everts was hired for political correctness reasons. I am sure there was an effort to be sure we had strong female candidates in the process. I am thrilled that one of them in the end was determined to be the strongest candidate.[/quote]

If you don't think diversity and political correctness played a major role in this hire you haven't been paying attention to what has been going on at ASU the past several years. For all the things a majority of alumni and students love about Ken Peacock there is a faction on that campus that does not like him one bit. They have worked hard to derail his agenda and embarrass him. While the Board of Governors realizes where the unrest comes from they are also keenly aware of the political atmosphere and try to minimize bad press. I am sure Everts fulfilled the criteria for our new chancellor and will do a fine job but to think being a female wasn't a big advantage in this particular search is naive.
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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:19 pm

What if.....our search committee was leaning toward the other candidate who might have been a man and the UNC Trustees picked Dr. Everts? While Im sure that didn't happen who would put it past the UNC dominated Board to pull a switcheroo on us? Fun for the conspiracy theorists.

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Kgfish » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:55 pm

Rekdiver wrote:What if.....our search committee was leaning toward the other candidate who might have been a man and the UNC Trustees picked Dr. Everts? While Im sure that didn't happen who would put it past the UNC dominated Board to pull a switcheroo on us? Fun for the conspiracy theorists.
The BOT was advised to submit at least 1 female candidate in the 3 to the BOG. One has to assume she was the strongest of the group.
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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:56 pm

Is this true for all Chancellor searches or did the BOT require this of us? If this was the first time then one could argue they had made up their mind to select a woman regardless. Would love to know the name of the other candidate

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Watauga72 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:07 pm

She is our 10th President/Chancellor. All those preceding her were men. Suppose there was this much conjecture with each that they only got the job because they were men?

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:55 pm

That's not answering my question. I was asking about all the Chancellor searches in the UNCSystem. Do they require that all finalists include a woman?

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:25 pm

bcoach wrote:What is funny about this whole thing is that we know even less about how to run a university and who should do it than we do about how to run a DIV 1 basketball team and who should do it. :lol:

I agree!!!
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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:34 pm

Kgfish wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:What if.....our search committee was leaning toward the other candidate who might have been a man and the UNC Trustees picked Dr. Everts? While Im sure that didn't happen who would put it past the UNC dominated Board to pull a switcheroo on us? Fun for the conspiracy theorists.
The BOT was advised to submit at least 1 female candidate in the 3 to the BOG. One has to assume she was the strongest of the group.
I was told that the BoT was told to submit at least one white male candidate and the only one they could find was so unacceptable that they asked for special permission to allow him to advance in the process, because "after all he would just fit in better". I can only assume that App could only afford hiring a woman that would work for 80% of a man.
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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:00 am

Stupid comment. Does anyone intelligent know if the process of selecting a Chancellor in the UNC system is consistent and mandates the vetting of minorities and women? That's all I'm asking....no judgements just curious. And I hope the new Chancellor will include KP in some role that will let him lobby for funds from businesses, the GA and alumni. KP is smart enough not to become a distraction for Dr. Everts.

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by App74 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:06 am

Kgfish wrote:
App74 wrote:
I also think we demean our Board of Trustees with all the veiled chauvinistic comments that suggest Everts was hired for political correctness reasons. I am sure there was an effort to be sure we had strong female candidates in the process. I am thrilled that one of them in the end was determined to be the strongest candidate.
If you don't think diversity and political correctness played a major role in this hire you haven't been paying attention to what has been going on at ASU the past several years. For all the things a majority of alumni and students love about Ken Peacock there is a faction on that campus that does not like him one bit. They have worked hard to derail his agenda and embarrass him. While the Board of Governors realizes where the unrest comes from they are also keenly aware of the political atmosphere and try to minimize bad press. I am sure Everts fulfilled the criteria for our new chancellor and will do a fine job but to think being a female wasn't a big advantage in this particular search is naive.[/quote]

For the record Kg, I didn't write the above quote. It was a response to my post.

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by appst89 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:57 am

Rekdiver wrote:Stupid comment. Does anyone intelligent know if the process of selecting a Chancellor in the UNC system is consistent and mandates the vetting of minorities and women? That's all I'm asking....no judgements just curious. And I hope the new Chancellor will include KP in some role that will let him lobby for funds from businesses, the GA and alumni. KP is smart enough not to become a distraction for Dr. Everts.
Got to meet Dr. Everts and speak to Dr. Peacock yesterday. Peacock said he will do as much, or as little, as Dr. Everts wants him to do in terms of representing App. I don't know what kind of leader she will end up being for App, but my first impresssion of her was very favorable.

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by DoubleA » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:25 am

Considering that far more women than men now attend and graduate college, it stands to reason we should begin seeing more women emerge into leadership roles within the university system. Are guys less intelligent, or just lazy? Perhaps it's misplaced priorities on video games and sports, over academics. Maybe coincidence, but both UNC-CH and ASU now have their first female Chancellor.

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Re: New Chancellor

Unread post by appbio91 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:25 am

Maddog1956 wrote:
Kgfish wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:What if.....our search committee was leaning toward the other candidate who might have been a man and the UNC Trustees picked Dr. Everts? While Im sure that didn't happen who would put it past the UNC dominated Board to pull a switcheroo on us? Fun for the conspiracy theorists.
The BOT was advised to submit at least 1 female candidate in the 3 to the BOG. One has to assume she was the strongest of the group.
I was told that the BoT was told to submit at least one white male candidate and the only one they could find was so unacceptable that they asked for special permission to allow him to advance in the process, because "after all he would just fit in better". I can only assume that App could only afford hiring a woman that would work for 80% of a man.
OUTSTANDING!! I racked my brain looking for the perfect bit of sarcasm to point out the stupidity of some of the comments in this thread and nothing seemed biting enough. I was playing around with wearing a short skirt and showing some leg in the interviews but I like this much better.

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