White Nationalists Hang Banner at ASU

[CornCobPipes]

They go to campuses across the country recruiting......all these groups are doing this....parents need to well advise their kids.

[Gonzo]

It's tantamount to ISIS recruiting western kids online. They prey on the enthusiasm and naivety of 18-20 something year old people. It's the perfect group to radicalize.

[NoLongerLurking]

If you haven't trained your kids enough to think white supremacy isn't absolutely absurd, then you have made some very poor parenting decisions.

[App91]

i hate that these despicable people have any sort of publicity from this. Their number is so small and things like this lend credence to the idea that they have much larger numbers than really do. Too bad we were not around when this went up! Outcome would have been different.

[App91]

If you haven't trained your kids enough to think white supremacy isn't absolutely absurd, then you have made some very poor parenting decisions.

Just, THIS!

[App91]

If you haven't trained your kids enough to think white supremacy isn't absolutely absurd, then you have made some very poor parenting decisions.

Just, THIS!

[hotrod2001]

Identify this.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

There is no way this was app students. Most of the time outside folks come in try to stir up trouble.

I wouldn't be too surprised. I heard many racists things said about Obama when he was elected. One student specifically as he was leaving the SRC was on his phone saying, "I can't believe a f'ing monkey is going to be our president". Now this was awhile ago, but I'm sure many things haven't changed. Doesn't matter who it was though. It doesn't belong in this country, not just at the school.

[NO.2]

My girlfriend started grad school today and just received this email:

A MESSAGE FROM THE CHANCELLOR | August 22, 2017


Dear Members of the Appalachian Community,

Last night, at approximately 8pm, two white men posted a banner reading, “A New Dawn is Breaking, Rise and Get Active, Identity Evropa” on the pedestrian bridge that crosses Rivers Street. Consistent with their actions across the United States, we believe posting this banner illustrated an intent to recruit members to Identity Evropa. Within 20 minutes, two other white men were seen removing the banner. University Police are monitoring the situation closely, and have found no connections with recognized student organizations thus far.

I want to emphasize there are many resources available that provide safety, care and concern assistance to members of our university community.

As many of us have seen in traditional media and in social media, college campuses are an attractive venue for provocative displays of speech. Like us, our colleagues across the country are struggling with this reality. As your administration works with students, faculty, staff and national organizations, including the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, we are keenly aware of the violence and hatred that has played out in cities and on college campuses across the country.

Appalachian is well-known in the state and region, and it is therefore possible that our campus will also become a venue for clashes of ideology.

It cannot be said too many times: we will not tolerate violence, discrimination, injustice and racism on Appalachian’s campus.

“What is the university doing?” This is an ever-present question, and one that bears serious consideration. Let’s begin with what the administration is doing:
Monitoring groups with a history of violence and their activity on or near our campus. Our primary responsibility is to maintain the safety of our community. Law enforcement – at local, state and national levels – have a heightened awareness for the potential for violence. Our University Police are committed to maintaining the safety of our entire community.
Working with faculty, staff and student groups to explore challenging issues. Defining the line between free speech and inciting violence is a daily occurrence, playing out across our nation. We are actively engaging in this work.
Helping students build resiliency. As educators, we must prepare our students for harsh realities, whether they occur on our campus or in life after Appalachian. We recognize this responsibility, and work to help our students develop skills to manage and address complicated societal issues.
Getting involved. University Police take a proactive approach to protecting the safety of our community. This means building and keeping trust with the members of our community. You will likely notice police officers working hard to get to know our students, faculty and staff. Academic Affairs and Student Affairs are working collaboratively to develop more, large-scale academic programs, panels and new initiatives dedicated to discussing the tough issues facing our society and thus, our campus. The Office of Equity Diversity and Compliance and the Chief Diversity Officer are working together to engage underrepresented populations in meetings and in small groups.
Keeping the compassion. Administrators hear the frustrations, the fear, the anger, and the concerns expressed by members of our community. We strive to understand and respond to each individual situation to support members of our community and prioritize safety.
Staying focused on our campus. We’re paying attention to what’s happening across the country, but we are staying focused on our campus. Outside groups and individuals who crave attention will not receive it at the expense of our students, faculty and staff. Our own community deserves our attention and our resources, and that’s where we will focus our energies.

How can you help?

Faculty and staff are on the front lines, working with students and helping them wrestle with complex societal issues every day. Your interactions with students are powerful and memorable. Every day, you bring with you the potential to help the next generation address problems in effective, interdisciplinary ways. Your expertise is key to keeping Appalachian safe – and giving our students the guidance and mentorship they require to know how to effect change, build relationships, challenge ideas constructively and develop sophisticated problem-solving skills.
Share your expertise. We’re sensitive to the intense demands on your time. That said, a university exists because of the work of faculty and staff. As you can dedicate time and energy, share your expertise with us, with your students, with one another. Classroom discussions, panel discussions, faculty and staff meetings are all important venues to share your expertise with your colleagues.
Ask for resources. Academic Affairs and Student Affairs look for ways to support opportunities for campus and community events, speakers, discussions and conferences.
Report incidents that concern you. We encourage taking a “better safe than sorry” approach to areas of concern, especially as they relate to matters of safety. Report things that concern you and they will be looked into. It is important to note, federal law does apply to student records, so it is possible you might not be aware of any follow up, but be assured it is taking place.
Focus on our collective responsibility to foster a community that is welcoming to all. Experts are available to help all of us navigate this challenge, and while we don’t have all the answers, our office of Equity, Diversity and Compliance and our Chief Diversity Officer, as well as experts in Student Affairs, are skilled at helping us all access tools and resources we can use to help understand varying perspectives and motivations.
Students, members of the administration and I have spoken with many students throughout the day. Several members of the Student Government Association (SGA) have expressed they are hearing students’ outrage, fear and concern about our university being targeted as a potential recruiting ground by outside agitators. SGA has agreed to continue sharing student voices with us. We will continue working with student leadership, and are dedicated to finding opportunities and venues to continue to hear and listen.

Let me close with an important emphasis. The safety of our community members is paramount. We are working to ensure your safety and security every day, and will continue to do so.

Sincerely,

Sheri N. Everts

Chancellor

[NewApp]

You all should check out their application to become a member. What a bunch of clowns!

We should get every poster to fill out a fake application giving them a piece of our mind. If we get enough people to participate and submit them all at the same time, maybe we can crash their server.

App is not the only college to have these gorilla advertising tactics used on their campus by this group.

Did you meanguerrilla ?

[NewApp]

Warning sarcasm. I do not support the idiots who put up the banner.

If the kids at ASU had to take a day off and go to therapy over seeing the word Trump, they must need a week and pain pills seeing the banner.

Hear! Hear. uka!

[Yosef10]

Never heard of this group.

Crazy how I hadn't heard of a bunch of these groups until the past 8 months or so. I could never imagine what the commonality is.

[appst89]

Never heard of this group.

Crazy how I hadn't heard of a bunch of these groups until the past 8 months or so. I could never imagine what the commonality is.

Stupidity is the only commonality. It's running rampant in the US right now.

[HkyMtneer]

Identify this.

Glad to see we're keeping it classy. I mean, who doesn't love to see their university's logo attached to a hand giving the middle finger. Or another "Mountaineer" threatening assault on some dumb dudes for putting up a stupid sign. I thought part of the Mountaineer mentality was a thick-skin and a to-each-his-own mantra but it sure does seem like some of us are working awful hard on that snowflake badge. Btw, I hate the word "Snowflake" but I simply used it for effect. An official university press release concerning the "incident". Really? Yes, lets draw even more attention to a foolish cause. That sounds like a winning plan!

It's a sign people. Unlawfully placed on public property: yes. Stupid & ignorant: yes. But it's a sign! It cannot hurt anyone, as much as some too-studied up psychologist might try to tell you otherwise. Don't believe me? Go ahead and put up a sign for me to see on the weekend of the first home game, a sign calling for the elimination of all the crackers, honkeys, whiteys, or any other name you might like to call me, and see if it hurts me. It won't...I won't bleed a drop because of it. If a sign like that really incites people to join some group that they all of a sudden wake up and realize sounds good to them then they're the weaker among us anyways and we don't have too much to worry about in the long-term, as they'll weed themselves out.

And besides, if people are really that concerned about their feelings getting hurt by what someone "believes" primarily in their head then I weep for the future. We're never all going to get along and sing kumbaya together...peace, love, & happiness is a myth. All you can do is make your little world, the world of you, your family, and your immediate friends, as happy and peaceful as you can make it and relish in that small circle of joy and contentment.

I wonder, even in my 30's, whatever happened to the old "sticks and stones...but words cannot hurt me" theory? If those idiots who put up the sign were out there bashing people in the head with clubs then we'd have a real problem. Otherwise, if they're caught in the act or can be identified post-event then issue them a citation for the illegal placing of a sign and move along, because the world just keeps spinning regardless. Not to mention, APP STATE FOOTBALL begins in just 9 DAYS and being there in Athens, being loud, and cheering on our guys in Black & Gold to an upset IS something I can control. APP STATE FOOTBALL unites rather than divides so I'll place my time and efforts there. And I'll focus on getting my gear ready to go for the season...rather than getting my panties in a wad over some 4'x6' sign that was up for all of 11 seconds on a pedestrian bridge back in Boone.

[Rekdiver]

Let me say again...If I saw a Nazi putting up a sign that slandered Jews I'd do more that say "shame". If I saw a KKK or any White Supremacy group put up a sign I'd do more that turn the other cheek. More people need to get their panties in a wad and call this stuff out. This is more important than football. Mountaineer mentality says "Not in My House" The fact you even said snowflake and minimize this and think this is not a big deal speak volumes.

[bcoach]

Let me say again...If I saw a Nazi putting up a sign that slandered Jews I'd do more that say "shame". If I saw a KKK or any White Supremacy group put up a sign I'd do more that turn the other cheek. More people need to get their panties in a wad and call this stuff out. This is more important than football. Mountaineer mentality says "Not in My House" The fact you even said snowflake and minimize this and think this is not a big deal speak volumes.

I understand 100% what you are saying. I have been irate for years over the ACLU protecting the hate groups. ALL the hate groups.
With that said using this particular sign as an example this is my personal answer to the solution. You very quickly go up and remove it. No pictures, no confrontation that attracts attention and just no mention of it at all. It is being done for the publicity it brings. The ultimate would be a confrontation that injures the member of the hate group plastered all over the media. Take away their publicity and you have disarmed them. I'll tell you that nothing would give me more pleasure than a little one on one time with one of these thugs. The problem is that is exactly what they want. Let's not repeat the HUGE mistake made in Charlottsville.

[Yosef10]

Never heard of this group.

Crazy how I hadn't heard of a bunch of these groups until the past 8 months or so. I could never imagine what the commonality is.

Stupidity is the only commonality. It's running rampant in the US right now.

To quote our oh so eloquent Commander-In-Chief, "Wrong!".

[97grad]

I understand 100% what you are saying. I have been irate for years over the ACLU protecting the hate groups. ALL the hate groups.
With that said using this particular sign as an example this is my personal answer to the solution. You very quickly go up and remove it. No pictures, no confrontation that attracts attention and just no mention of it at all. It is being done for the publicity it brings. The ultimate would be a confrontation that injures the member of the hate group plastered all over the media. Take away their publicity and you have disarmed them. I'll tell you that nothing would give me more pleasure than a little one on one time with one of these thugs. The problem is that is exactly what they want. Let's not repeat the HUGE mistake made in Charlottsville.

The problem is that students/faculty/etc have a right to know this sort of thing happened. Even if you don't agree with that, *someone* will have seen it before it can be taken down, and then we're having a conversation about a cover up by the university instead of one we're having about the evils of hate. I'll take the latter.

[bcoach]

I understand 100% what you are saying. I have been irate for years over the ACLU protecting the hate groups. ALL the hate groups.
With that said using this particular sign as an example this is my personal answer to the solution. You very quickly go up and remove it. No pictures, no confrontation that attracts attention and just no mention of it at all. It is being done for the publicity it brings. The ultimate would be a confrontation that injures the member of the hate group plastered all over the media. Take away their publicity and you have disarmed them. I'll tell you that nothing would give me more pleasure than a little one on one time with one of these thugs. The problem is that is exactly what they want. Let's not repeat the HUGE mistake made in Charlottsville.

The problem is that students/faculty/etc have a right to know this sort of thing happened. Even if you don't agree with that, *someone* will have seen it before it can be taken down, and then we're having a conversation about a cover up by the university instead of one we're having about the evils of hate. I'll take the latter.

I don't know what the cover up would be in taking down an offensive sign and not making a big deal out of it but that is just my humble opinion.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Identify this.

Glad to see we're keeping it classy. I mean, who doesn't love to see their university's logo attached to a hand giving the middle finger. Or another "Mountaineer" threatening assault on some dumb dudes for putting up a stupid sign. I thought part of the Mountaineer mentality was a thick-skin and a to-each-his-own mantra but it sure does seem like some of us are working awful hard on that snowflake badge. Btw, I hate the word "Snowflake" but I simply used it for effect. An official university press release concerning the "incident". Really? Yes, lets draw even more attention to a foolish cause. That sounds like a winning plan!

It's a sign people. Unlawfully placed on public property: yes. Stupid & ignorant: yes. But it's a sign! It cannot hurt anyone, as much as some too-studied up psychologist might try to tell you otherwise. Don't believe me? Go ahead and put up a sign for me to see on the weekend of the first home game, a sign calling for the elimination of all the crackers, honkeys, whiteys, or any other name you might like to call me, and see if it hurts me. It won't...I won't bleed a drop because of it. If a sign like that really incites people to join some group that they all of a sudden wake up and realize sounds good to them then they're the weaker among us anyways and we don't have too much to worry about in the long-term, as they'll weed themselves out.

And besides, if people are really that concerned about their feelings getting hurt by what someone "believes" primarily in their head then I weep for the future. We're never all going to get along and sing kumbaya together...peace, love, & happiness is a myth. All you can do is make your little world, the world of you, your family, and your immediate friends, as happy and peaceful as you can make it and relish in that small circle of joy and contentment.

I wonder, even in my 30's, whatever happened to the old "sticks and stones...but words cannot hurt me" theory? If those idiots who put up the sign were out there bashing people in the head with clubs then we'd have a real problem. Otherwise, if they're caught in the act or can be identified post-event then issue them a citation for the illegal placing of a sign and move along, because the world just keeps spinning regardless. Not to mention, APP STATE FOOTBALL begins in just 9 DAYS and being there in Athens, being loud, and cheering on our guys in Black & Gold to an upset IS something I can control. APP STATE FOOTBALL unites rather than divides so I'll place my time and efforts there. And I'll focus on getting my gear ready to go for the season...rather than getting my panties in a wad over some 4'x6' sign that was up for all of 11 seconds on a pedestrian bridge back in Boone.

And this picture is just a middle finger. You care more about a middle finger aimed at racism on a message board that a small population sees than you do about how social media and other outlets can twist their views of App State for the world to see based off the sign. For someone that claims to shake things off you sure spent a lot of time to type about the issue.