Here is the link to the fall sports streaming schedule.

https://appstatesports.com/news/2023/8/ ... edule.aspx

New PhD program

User avatar
McLeansvilleAppFan
Posts: 9208
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:37 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: Greensboro (McLeansville) NC
Has thanked: 4148 times
Been thanked: 2093 times

New PhD program

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:32 pm

Is this old news I have just missed or is this so new I am the first to post on here about this?

I was listening to WASU over the internet on the way home as I was not in the mood for an NPR fund drive and I thought I heard App State was granted approval to start a PhD program in psychology. This is to address the need in so many counties in the state with NO operating psychologists.
This is my very generic signature added to each post.

BTK2000
Posts: 420
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:06 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 187 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by BTK2000 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:50 pm

It’s not a PhD (Dr of Phillosphy) it’s going to be a PsyD (Dr of Psychology). More emphasis on clinical and less on reasearch.

https://clinicalpsych.appstate.edu

User avatar
McLeansvilleAppFan
Posts: 9208
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:37 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: Greensboro (McLeansville) NC
Has thanked: 4148 times
Been thanked: 2093 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:18 pm

That would make sense, especially given the reason given for granting the program, which is to get psychologists into the field.
This is my very generic signature added to each post.

Stonewall
Posts: 5249
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:26 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 2664 times
Been thanked: 2563 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:27 pm

Behavioral health specialists at all levels are in extremely short supply. Trying to recruit Psychiatrists is more difficult than any other medical profession I can think of , at least at this time. Neurosurgeons we can get, MDPSY , not so much. Doctorate level Psychologists can pretty much write their own ticket too. This is a big win.

AppinVA
Posts: 13444
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2000 9:41 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 3017 times
Been thanked: 2803 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by AppinVA » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:42 pm

This is a step in the right direction. Great get.
"Some people call me hillbilly. Some people call me mountain man. You can call me Appalachian. Appalachian's what I am."-- Del McCoury Band

HighlandsApp
Posts: 1297
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:44 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 926 times
Been thanked: 679 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by HighlandsApp » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:33 pm

How many Dr degrees does a university need to offer or produce in order to be have the classification changed from Masters University?

User avatar
NO.2
Posts: 777
Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:34 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 194 times
Been thanked: 340 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by NO.2 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:36 am

Very cool. One of my old roommates is currently in a Doctoral Psychology program in Kansas. He's been in Lawrence for two years...and I think he's got another 5 left :lol:

User avatar
asu66
Posts: 26893
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2000 1:21 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 1945 times
Been thanked: 2006 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by asu66 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:35 am

Stonewall wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:27 pm
Behavioral health specialists at all levels are in extremely short supply. Trying to recruit Psychiatrists is more difficult than any other medical profession I can think of, at least at this time. Neurosurgeons we can get, MDPSY, not so much. Doctorate level Psychologists can pretty much write their own ticket too. This is a big win.
I agree that it's a win, but it was about time for a win in this game against the UNC-BOG and NC General Assembly. :evil: :evil: It's been only 37 years since our first doctoral program was awarded. Now we're about to be all the way up to two. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

By comparison, UNC-G has 26 and UNCC has 22. :evil:
If it happens to the Apps, it happens to me!

appstate77
Posts: 3004
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:49 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: South Carolina
Has thanked: 1469 times
Been thanked: 980 times
Contact:

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by appstate77 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:47 am

It strikes me that State money for the UNC System doesn't run uphill.

User avatar
asu66
Posts: 26893
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2000 1:21 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 1945 times
Been thanked: 2006 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by asu66 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:00 pm

appstate77 wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:47 am
It strikes me that State money for the UNC System doesn't run uphill.
Exactly my point!
If it happens to the Apps, it happens to me!

CVAPP
Posts: 1309
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:45 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: Catawba Valley
Has thanked: 714 times
Been thanked: 306 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:44 pm

I hate to mention it, but we made no case for our fiscal responsibility getting conned into a 2 million dollar wire fraud. That's a lousy black eye on what I assume is the model for for fiscal responsibility in the UNC system. I am not calling for it, but I am curious if anyone lost their job over it. Sometimes a promise you will more careful next time just doesn't get it.

User avatar
MAD Doctor
Posts: 2311
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:38 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 1571 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:37 pm

CVAPP wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:44 pm
I hate to mention it, but we made no case for our fiscal responsibility getting conned into a 2 million dollar wire fraud. That's a lousy black eye on what I assume is the model for for fiscal responsibility in the UNC system. I am not calling for it, but I am curious if anyone lost their job over it. Sometimes a promise you will more careful next time just doesn't get it.
It was a terrible, unintentional fiscal mistake by an individual. But it pales in comparison to 20 years of intentional academic fraud by a large number of students, professors, coaches, and administrators. Doubt that cost them anything but maybe one particular undergrad program.

User avatar
97grad
Posts: 448
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:43 pm
School: Appalachian State
Location: Raleigh
Has thanked: 158 times
Been thanked: 106 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by 97grad » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:29 pm

I'm curious as to the rationale offered for funding Appalachian at the level it is relative to other UNC schools, can someone enlighten me?

User avatar
McLeansvilleAppFan
Posts: 9208
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:37 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: Greensboro (McLeansville) NC
Has thanked: 4148 times
Been thanked: 2093 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:42 pm

MAD Doctor wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:37 pm
CVAPP wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:44 pm
I hate to mention it, but we made no case for our fiscal responsibility getting conned into a 2 million dollar wire fraud. That's a lousy black eye on what I assume is the model for for fiscal responsibility in the UNC system. I am not calling for it, but I am curious if anyone lost their job over it. Sometimes a promise you will more careful next time just doesn't get it.
It was a terrible, unintentional fiscal mistake by an individual. But it pales in comparison to 20 years of intentional academic fraud by a large number of students, professors, coaches, and administrators. Doubt that cost them anything but maybe one particular undergrad program.
And we got most of it back.
This is my very generic signature added to each post.

CVAPP
Posts: 1309
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:45 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: Catawba Valley
Has thanked: 714 times
Been thanked: 306 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:43 pm

97grad wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:29 pm
I'm curious as to the rationale offered for funding Appalachian at the level it is relative to other UNC schools, can someone enlighten me?
As Dr. Albert Hughes put it, we ain't politically connected enough. No law school and all.

CVAPP
Posts: 1309
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:45 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: Catawba Valley
Has thanked: 714 times
Been thanked: 306 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:44 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:42 pm
MAD Doctor wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:37 pm
CVAPP wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:44 pm
I hate to mention it, but we made no case for our fiscal responsibility getting conned into a 2 million dollar wire fraud. That's a lousy black eye on what I assume is the model for for fiscal responsibility in the UNC system. I am not calling for it, but I am curious if anyone lost their job over it. Sometimes a promise you will more careful next time just doesn't get it.
It was a terrible, unintentional fiscal mistake by an individual. But it pales in comparison to 20 years of intentional academic fraud by a large number of students, professors, coaches, and administrators. Doubt that cost them anything but maybe one particular undergrad program.
And we got most of it back.
Getting most of it back does not excuse it in any way. Resources were used to recover those funds.

User avatar
McLeansvilleAppFan
Posts: 9208
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:37 am
School: Appalachian State
Location: Greensboro (McLeansville) NC
Has thanked: 4148 times
Been thanked: 2093 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:49 pm

Very true about the resources used in recovering the funds but even taking that into account we are not out all the money. Private industry gets hit with these things as well and we learned and moved on and made corrective measures. I wish it would not have happened but it is also something I am not going to simmer over when everything is put in perspective.
This is my very generic signature added to each post.

NoLongerLurking
Posts: 1396
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:07 pm
School: Appalachian State
Location: Boone
Has thanked: 586 times
Been thanked: 515 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:15 pm

Ya'll reckon they'll give me some free sessions without having to go to Mountain Home VA?

User avatar
asu66
Posts: 26893
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2000 1:21 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 1945 times
Been thanked: 2006 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by asu66 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:44 am

CVAPP wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:44 pm
I hate to mention it, but we made no case for our fiscal responsibility getting conned into a 2 million dollar wire fraud. That's a lousy black eye on what I assume is the model for for fiscal responsibility in the UNC system. I am not calling for it, but I am curious if anyone lost their job over it. Sometimes a promise you will more careful next time just doesn't get it.
This was/is a serious matter and it has been addressed in both internal and external university audits, by the Controller, by the VC for Business Affairs, by Chancellor Everts and by the BOT.

It does not, in any way, have relevance to the fact that Appalachian has been awarded just two* doctoral programs since being awarded university status in 1971. [...that's two* assuming the Doctor of Psychology (Psy.D) program in psychotherapy/clinical psychology comes through to join the Doctor of Education (Ed.D) program that was awarded in the early 80s.] As noted in a previous post, the ongoing snub is simply due to UNC System/BOG campus politics.
If it happens to the Apps, it happens to me!

User avatar
97grad
Posts: 448
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:43 pm
School: Appalachian State
Location: Raleigh
Has thanked: 158 times
Been thanked: 106 times

Re: New PhD program

Unread post by 97grad » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:48 am

CVAPP wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:43 pm
97grad wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:29 pm
I'm curious as to the rationale offered for funding Appalachian at the level it is relative to other UNC schools, can someone enlighten me?
As Dr. Albert Hughes put it, we ain't politically connected enough. No law school and all.
This seems a bit vague; we're not the only school in the system without a law program. To be clear, I'm not asking for opinions, I'm asking for the rationale the BOG offers for funding us at the current, low levels.

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic

Return to “Appalachian General Discussion”