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Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:49 am
by wncapp78
Who is They? I’d like to see the studies.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:05 am
by Yosef10
wncapp78 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:49 am
Who is They? I’d like to see the studies.
Sorry, “studies” makes it sound more scientific that it was. Schools just see significant reductions in “incidents” and arrests made when beer is sold in the stadium.
https://www.thelantern.com/2017/09/ohio ... hol-sales/
On top of OSU, WVU and others all report that gameday incidents dropped pretty significantly when they began selling beer in stadium.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:17 am
by Gonzo
mgsouth wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:15 pm
I have never seen alcohol turn anyone into a better person
I have. Hotter, too.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:42 pm
by Seattleapp
The bottom line is nfl crowds bring a much different crowd than college crowds. I’ve never had problems at away college games. I have only been hassled wearing an away jersey at a pro game.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:42 pm
by Seattleapp
Gonzo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:17 am
mgsouth wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:15 pm
I have never seen alcohol turn anyone into a better person
I have. Hotter, too.
Hahahahhahhahahhah
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:40 pm
by mgsouth
They’ve done studies at collegiate stadiums pre-selling beer and post-selling beer. The facts do not support your hypothesis.
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Studies and facts? Yeah. O.K. The studies and facts said that Hillary was going to wipe the floor with Trump in a Presidential election too. LOL! Look, You don't need any study to see that with more alcohol you are going to get more trouble. All you need to do is watch a drunk in action. Or, just watch the news. How many assaults, wrecks and even deaths have occurred and the statement was made, "alcohol was involved?"
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:46 pm
by AppinVA
I don’t mind all the craft beer selections, but I am one of those “swill drinkers” who prefers Bud Light or Michelob Ultra. Just give me one or the other, and I’ll be fine.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:48 pm
by AppinVA
Oh, and how have we gotten this far without saying, “you know what Coors is? It’s the banquet beer.”
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:34 pm
by NewApp
mgsouth wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:40 pm
They’ve done studies at collegiate stadiums pre-selling beer and post-selling beer. The facts do not support your hypothesis.
Studies and facts? Yeah. O.K. The studies and facts said that Hillary was going to wipe the floor with Trump in a Presidential election too. LOL! Look, You don't need any study to see that with more alcohol you are going to get more trouble. All you need to do is watch a drunk in action. Or, just watch the news. How many assaults, wrecks and even deaths have occurred and the statement was made, "alcohol was involved?"
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Good post.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:47 pm
by Stonewall
I will admit that having the lady that owns the PSLs behind me pour a beer down the back of my ex mother in law was the highlight of the 2001 season.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:47 pm
by T-Dog
mgsouth wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:40 pm
Studies and facts? Yeah. O.K. The studies and facts said that Hillary was going to wipe the floor with Trump in a Presidential election too. LOL! Look, You don't need any study to see that with more alcohol you are going to get more trouble. All you need to do is watch a drunk in action. Or, just watch the news. How many assaults, wrecks and even deaths have occurred and the statement was made, "alcohol was involved?"
Using that logic, we should sell pot in the stadium. Never seen the headline "pothead kills family in car wreck."
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:51 pm
by NoLongerLurking
T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:47 pm
mgsouth wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:40 pm
Studies and facts? Yeah. O.K. The studies and facts said that Hillary was going to wipe the floor with Trump in a Presidential election too. LOL! Look, You don't need any study to see that with more alcohol you are going to get more trouble. All you need to do is watch a drunk in action. Or, just watch the news. How many assaults, wrecks and even deaths have occurred and the statement was made, "alcohol was involved?"
Using that logic, we should sell pot in the stadium. Never seen the headline "pothead kills family in car wreck."
Do like me, buy/sell the devil's lettuce in the bathroom of the stadium after downing 6 airplane bottles of fire water.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:59 pm
by Stonewall
About half of fatally injured drivers that are tested come back positive for pot,opioids or both.Most however , are not tested.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:47 pm
by goapps93
I think very few people are going to be getting drunk(er) off 8+ dollar beer. Most people who are already getting sloshed pregame will continue and those bringing bottles in will continue. I'm not convinced it will make a difference at all. I will not be paying for overpriced beer at games just like I don't pay for overpriced soft drinks.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:58 am
by Stonewall
Availability increases consumption .I hope the return is worth it, but I remain skeptical.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:09 am
by MrCraig
mgsouth wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:40 pm
They’ve done studies at collegiate stadiums pre-selling beer and post-selling beer. The facts do not support your hypothesis.
Studies and facts? Yeah. O.K. The studies and facts said that Hillary was going to wipe the floor with Trump in a Presidential election too. LOL! Look, You don't need any study to see that with more alcohol you are going to get more trouble. All you need to do is watch a drunk in action. Or, just watch the news. How many assaults, wrecks and even deaths have occurred and the statement was made, "alcohol was involved?"
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There's a HUGE difference between studying an event that already happened (incidents of drunken behavior at football games), and predicting an event that will happen (presidential elections; the weather). I hope you know the difference.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:33 am
by t4pizza
Stonewall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:59 pm
About half of fatally injured drivers that are tested come back positive for pot,opioids or both.Most however , are not tested.
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I have never heard that one before, in fact drunk drivers only make up about 25% of motor vehicle fatalities so it if very doubtful that drugged drivers more than double that amount. In fact, most studies on consumption of pot and driving indicate that the participants actually drive better. The only way to get them to drive worse is to give them so much pot that they can barely even function let alone drive. The first study that I was aware of was about 20 years ago out of England, the results were so against the thought process that the study was replicated many times over with the same surprising results, the drivers drove with more attentiveness. Not wanting to accept this point of view, the testers upped the level of pot that was given to the drivers until they finally got to a point that driving skills were significantly diminished, of course those people were so high it is doubtful that they would even put down the game console and leave the couch. Pot simply doesn't impair driving to nearly the scale of alcohol. I have dealt with impaired drivers for more than 20 years, and its nearly almost always alcohol that is the culprit and if there are drugs in the system they are combined with elevated levels of alcohol. Also remember, just because pot may be in somebodies system doesn't mean they are under the effects of it because it can remain in the body up to 30 days. This one article summarizes the years of scientific studies trying to correlate pot with traffic accidents, and there isn't one.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:44 am
by HighlandsApp
I think that this would be a great stadium experience addition. The Yosef Club could sell bracelets for $5 so an individual is only ID'ed once and then let vendors sell the beer in loop around Miller Hill. Or maybe only Yosef Club members can buy beer or wine.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:49 am
by Stonewall
Governors Highway Safety Association ,2016 study.
Re: North Carolina lawmakers seek to allow alcohol sales at college sporting events
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:10 pm
by GregPercussion
The overall trend for sports viewing attendance is down across the board. University athletics are looking to find ways to make it as attractive as possible to get fans to games rather than just watch it on TV.