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Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:57 pm

...if revenue lost due to coronavirus is so great some schools and programs can't afford to keep going?

Here's something we discussed on my sports talk radio show...SEC ADs and commissioner Greg Sankey have openly discussed the Coronavirus threat to 2020 college football. IF the entire season is threatened it's projected (all sports) could see a financial loss of $20 billion, which could cause a large portion of individual sports programs and athletic departments to not be able to financially afford re-starting operations.

Why? Most football programs (and almost all non-football programs) are financially supported by state subsidies and student fees in addition to sponsorship dollars and fans' discretionary dollars. If states earmark that money elsewhere as part of recovery efforts, if student populations fall off, if advertisers have to keep their money in house to right their own ship, and if fans' livelihoods are affected and they can't afford to attend/donate we're talking about a major major major MAJOR economic impact.

What happens with programs (big and small) that were already on the brink of financial ruin? What will programs on the come up like App State do? How will things re-organize in the wake of all this?

We already know P5 conferences want to break away from the rest of college football as a whole. It's also safe to bet that revenue will return to P5 football first. If so what is the moral obligation of P5 football to help re-start smaller college football?

***Note*** This is a purely hypothetical, what-if, doomsday scenario conversation.


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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:09 pm

I am not sure using the term moral obligation and Prig5 in the same sentence, paragraph, or internet post can be done AND taken seriously.

With that said-
MLB needs MiLB and MLB's desire to cut out teams is going to only hurt MLB down the road. Maybe it is the difference between a very, very slow decline in the sport vs a faster decline but cutting MiLB is not going to help the long term prospects of pulling in fans, though it will save MLB some $ in the near term.

If the Prig5 pulls away and takes nearly all the resources then it will be some short term gains but long term many of us that follow G5 schools and FCS and smaller colleges may not substitute a Prig5 school. I just will not watch college football. I'll find other things to do with my time and money. They, the Prig5, would be wise to keep this in mind. Hopefully there are enough out there that feel the same way. Look at March Madness, one reason it is so successful is the possible upsets and Cinderella stories that play out year after year. By defination the Prig5 schools can't really be Cinderella stories or at least not very compelling Cinderalla stories.


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Unread post by Yosef84 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:03 am

I'm not at all convinced that the P5 has any real desire to separate from G5. There are certainly elite programs that like to talk about the gap, but those are some of the same programs who continue to schedule some of the easiest OOC out there (Alabama). Without the G5 (and even FCS), the P5 would be forced to beat up on each other in order to deliver a schedule and that isn't in the best interest of programs where fans LOVE undefeated teams.

With regard to a "moral obligation", I don't know if that is a "thing" with regards to athletics. I do think the P5 will do what is in their own best interest. I also think this could spell the end of some programs..or the down-grade of some programs if the 2020 season isn't played.



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Unread post by APPdiesel » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:37 pm

Yosef84,

I hadn't thought of that. How many low-budget programs might consider the FCS route. We'll see who REALLY wants to invest in FBS football pretty quickly.


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Unread post by bcoach » Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:43 pm

Money will someday be the downfall of college football. Maybe a reset would not be a bad thing.



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Unread post by NewApp » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:45 am

APPdiesel wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:37 pm
Yosef84,

I hadn't thought of that. How many low-budget programs might consider the FCS route. We'll see who REALLY wants to invest in FBS football pretty quickly.
Or who can afford to.



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Unread post by APPdiesel » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:22 pm

I'm sure there are at least 25 FBS programs who are seriously considering temporarily shelving or completely moth-balling their programs because of this.

If that happens WTH are the legal/organizational ramifications? If you drop football for 2 years, what happens when you're ready to come back? Automatic re-entry into your previous conference or are you on your own to create new leagues out of the cast-offs?


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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:27 pm

It’s becoming more obvious that regionalized conferences are the way to go, especially for the G5’s. Reduced travel expenses, larger crowds and more compelling games simply makes more sense. Annual games against ECU, Charlotte, Marshall, etc would really be a boost to us.



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Unread post by NewApp » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:09 pm

APPdiesel wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:22 pm
I'm sure there are at least 25 FBS programs who are seriously considering temporarily shelving or completely moth-balling their programs because of this.

If that happens WTH are the legal/organizational ramifications? If you drop football for 2 years, what happens when you're ready to come back? Automatic re-entry into your previous conference or are you on your own to create new leagues out of the cast-offs?
Rings eerily of ETSU.



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Re: What is Major College Football's Moral Obligation...

Unread post by Yosef84 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:06 am

bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:27 pm
It’s becoming more obvious that regionalized conferences are the way to go, especially for the G5’s. Reduced travel expenses, larger crowds and more compelling games simply makes more sense. Annual games against ECU, Charlotte, Marshall, etc would really be a boost to us.
To most folks, the idea of regional conferences has always made sense. The concept of spreading out in order to broaden "markets" has failed dramatically for G5 conferences. The problem is that G5 schools don't command a high enough percentage of the market by themselves to demand attention and spreading out the conferences makes it more difficult to build those intense rivalries. By contracting and having multiple programs in a given market, I would think the ability to actually command attention (and dollars) in that market would be increased. It just makes sense.

I think the problem today isn't getting people to agree on the concept of more regional conferences. The problem is how we get there from where we are. That involves significant cooperation, which isn't common strength these days.



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Re: What is Major College Football's Moral Obligation...

Unread post by APPdiesel » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:29 pm

Fans can have their egos and their unique "I like school A but I don't want to be associated with school B". But thankfully these decisions aren't up to emotional fans, they're up to administrators who *should* think logically.


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