UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:04 am
Anyone know how we'll do under this new model?
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UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
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Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:06 am
Damn, Easy-U will be getting a majority of the funding next budget approval. Just kidding
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:37 am
UNCCH looked around and noticed they’ve suppressed growth while others have passed their numbers. Oh crap we allocate based upon number of students let’s change the metric…
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:55 am
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:17 am
At face value, if the “UNC SYSTEM” had anything to do with it I’ll be skeptical.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:34 pm
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:57 pm
They are looking to do a similar things with education system/teacher pay. The current bill would remove years of experience from the equation. We would be the only state in the union where teacher pay was not based on years of experience. I don't remember the number of the bill but I'm sure one could google it if interested.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 12:33 pm
That's a tough decision, interesting to hear the side they are falling on. My most tenured employees are not always my best, but they are the highest paid because of annual increases. So do you compensate on what they are doing, or on what they have done? The young guns say on what you're doing. Loyalty though. Tough call.appdaze wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:57 pmThey are looking to do a similar things with education system/teacher pay. The current bill would remove years of experience from the equation. We would be the only state in the union where teacher pay was not based on years of experience. I don't remember the number of the bill but I'm sure one could google it if interested.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 1:30 pm
The biggest problem is that the best students make the best grades and often times the best teachers do not have the best students. "You cannot make brains."mike87 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 12:33 pmThat's a tough decision, interesting to hear the side they are falling on. My most tenured employees are not always my best, but they are the highest paid because of annual increases. So do you compensate on what they are doing, or on what they have done? The young guns say on what you're doing. Loyalty though. Tough call.appdaze wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:57 pmThey are looking to do a similar things with education system/teacher pay. The current bill would remove years of experience from the equation. We would be the only state in the union where teacher pay was not based on years of experience. I don't remember the number of the bill but I'm sure one could google it if interested.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 1:57 pm
this is crap.................
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 1:28 pm
Fantastic idea to pay teachers on results not years. Problem is it will not work. There is nothing in the world more political than a school system.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 2:42 pm
Been tried before on a bonus system with before and after tests. Some teachers devised a strategy for the before test (not getting many correct answers) and students knocking after test out of park, they got bonus while teachers doing things straight up had lower gains and did not get bonus.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:21 pm
It’s time to challenge the no union rule for teachers.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:23 pm
How would you rate Guidance Counselors, EC Teachers such as ones who teach only the severe autistic or BEH? What about extra curricular activities that some teachers have but others not.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:25 pm
Some teachers' subjects don't have tests required for their students.huskie3 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 2:42 pmBeen tried before on a bonus system with before and after tests. Some teachers devised a strategy for the before test (not getting many correct answers) and students knocking after test out of park, they got bonus while teachers doing things straight up had lower gains and did not get bonus.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:51 pm
This was in the vocational division, everyone had pre- and post tests.NewApp wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 3:25 pmSome teachers' subjects don't have tests required for their students.huskie3 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 2:42 pmBeen tried before on a bonus system with before and after tests. Some teachers devised a strategy for the before test (not getting many correct answers) and students knocking after test out of park, they got bonus while teachers doing things straight up had lower gains and did not get bonus.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 4:47 pm
Some are simply how well you made a night stand in wood working or how well you changed the oil in a car in auto mechanics. Or how well your seeds came up in Ag or how many breeds of hogs you can identify and, or describe. . How many wpm you can type in keyboarding, Things like that nowadays.huskie3 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 3:51 pmThis was in the vocational division, everyone had pre- and post tests.NewApp wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 3:25 pmSome teachers' subjects don't have tests required for their students.huskie3 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 2:42 pmBeen tried before on a bonus system with before and after tests. Some teachers devised a strategy for the before test (not getting many correct answers) and students knocking after test out of park, they got bonus while teachers doing things straight up had lower gains and did not get bonus.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 7:58 pm
Here is a couple links that explain what it is. Yes there is some bias but the info presented is what to look at if you are interested in reading it.
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... -licensure
https://ncpolicywatch.com/2022/04/07/st ... pensation/
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... -licensure
https://ncpolicywatch.com/2022/04/07/st ... pensation/
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 9:24 pm
You are way out of touch! I administered the tests - they were content based questions not skill assessments. The things you describe were the day to day assessments the teachers gave.NewApp wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 4:47 pmSome are simply how well you made a night stand in wood working or how well you changed the oil in a car in auto mechanics. Or how well your seeds came up in Ag or how many breeds of hogs you can identify and, or describe. . How many wpm you can type in keyboarding, Things like that nowadays.huskie3 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 3:51 pmThis was in the vocational division, everyone had pre- and post tests.NewApp wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 3:25 pmSome teachers' subjects don't have tests required for their students.huskie3 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 2:42 pmBeen tried before on a bonus system with before and after tests. Some teachers devised a strategy for the before test (not getting many correct answers) and students knocking after test out of park, they got bonus while teachers doing things straight up had lower gains and did not get bonus.
Re: UNC System adopts new budget model based on student success and not enrollment numbers
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 9:25 pm
Thanks for posting, both were informative.appdaze wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 7:58 pmHere is a couple links that explain what it is. Yes there is some bias but the info presented is what to look at if you are interested in reading it.
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... -licensure
https://ncpolicywatch.com/2022/04/07/st ... pensation/