2024/25 post mortem

[Bigdaddyg1]

As much as I enjoy football it really is amazing when you think about it how much over emphasis is put on it and how so many people absolutely live and die (many on this board) with the game. I admit I like the countdown and look forward to the season but it’s not life itself. There are countless numbers of kids every day and every year who could not care less about playing football and absolutely love other sports they play and compete in. It’s really a shame that many of the sports at App State get little to no mention. Such is life these days as it’s all about football.

[appstatemadam]

I'd give the year a B+. Our Olympic sports really stepped up this year for various benchmarks. All things considered, football did pretty good. We tried a lot of new things as a program, and now we grow. Really hoping to see the Mexican food truck at more events apart from baseball this coming year. My son Bobby really liked the quesadillas.

[Saint3333]

Ultimate first trolling post, nice try whoever set up this burner account. Where's the dislike button.

[ASUFan4863]

No doubt football success is what drives the interest and support for the athletic program but I'm not a fan of a lopsided or top heavy athletic program. The real loser in this new era are the sports where the athletes really do it for the love of their craft. That's not to say football players aren't out for the love of the game, but they have many other motivating factors beyond playing the game.

It’s all about the money these days. Football, basketball and baseball to a lesser degree drive that. You have to invest the majority of resources into the sports that can give the greatest ROI to the university. Big wins like A&M, Gameday, conference titles will always be more valuable to the school than an Olympic sport.

[BallantyneApp]

As much as I enjoy football it really is amazing when you think about it how much over emphasis is put on it and how so many people absolutely live and die (many on this board) with the game. I admit I like the countdown and look forward to the season but it’s not life itself. There are countless numbers of kids every day and every year who could not care less about playing football and absolutely love other sports they play and compete in. It’s really a shame that many of the sports at App State get little to no mention. Such is life these days as it’s all about football.

you have to understand what FBS football/MBB and recently WBB has been for the last 30 or so years. Extensions of the marketing arms of the universities. Its all about marketing.

loving sports and competition and amateur athletics is all great, but its a luxury almost all of the G6 programs don't have. We have ot market ourselves and differentiate for attracting students.

[hapapp]

No doubt football success is what drives the interest and support for the athletic program but I'm not a fan of a lopsided or top heavy athletic program. The real loser in this new era are the sports where the athletes really do it for the love of their craft. That's not to say football players aren't out for the love of the game, but they have many other motivating factors beyond playing the game.

It’s all about the money these days. Football, basketball and baseball to a lesser degree drive that. You have to invest the majority of resources into the sports that can give the greatest ROI to the university. Big wins like A&M, Gameday, conference titles will always be more valuable to the school than an Olympic sport.

Which is why I beginning to lose interest.

[bcoach]

No doubt football success is what drives the interest and support for the athletic program but I'm not a fan of a lopsided or top heavy athletic program. The real loser in this new era are the sports where the athletes really do it for the love of their craft. That's not to say football players aren't out for the love of the game, but they have many other motivating factors beyond playing the game.

It’s all about the money these days. Football, basketball and baseball to a lesser degree drive that. You have to invest the majority of resources into the sports that can give the greatest ROI to the university. Big wins like A&M, Gameday, conference titles will always be more valuable to the school than an Olympic sport.

Which is why I beginning to lose interest.

My interest is also waning to a degree. I still have the season tickets, but all this football pay for play and portal nonsense has led me to find some other interest that I am really enjoying. For example, I will be missing the home opener in favor of a DIV 3 volleyball tournament. I am spending more and more time watching Volleyball and loving it. I have now added a new one and that is Lacross. I absolutely love it. I guess where I am at is I’ll still watch football, but it just will not be the king of the castle any longer. Much like the minor league hockey team I am involved with these VB and Lacross kids are just excited to be able to play. A pizza on the bus on the way home makes them happy kids. I received personal thankyou notes from some VB players for my contribution this year. For those of you who are not aware we have a pretty good hockey team at APP. You need to catch a game if you get a chance.

[AppfaninCAALand]

Football F : losing record, no bowl, fired coach.
Wrestling B: very good year, did not win tourney.
Volleyball B: good year, no championship.
Field Hockey B: good year, no championship.
Cross country x2 A: conferences champions Golf: x2 C probably good as we can do x 2.
Track/field x2 C: slight improvement but no championship.

Soccer C+:good year no championship.
Softball C-: up and down finished down no champ
Tennis B: much improved no champ
Basketball x2: both C-(men D+ ladies C)
Baseball: D-: sad, step backwards, beat ourselves with errors, HBP, walks, walks, walks.

Good grades. No scandals. But not really much to cheer about either. No soccer and whether I like it or not , everything revolves around football, basketball and baseball. So, my overall grade is weighted by their performance.

Overall grade D

Field hockey was "MAC regular season co-champions", but lost in the conference tournament.

[Stonewall]

Should non-Sunbelt teams carry the same weight?

[AppfaninCAALand]

Should non-Sunbelt teams carry the same weight?

I would say high profile sports carry more weight, but amongst lower profile sports, conference affiliation shouldn't factor

Also, the Sun Belt needs to sponsor field hockey (3 teams) with the 2 CUSA members thrown in (and Longwood too I guess for 6).

[pop5app]

Football F : losing record, no bowl, fired coach.
Wrestling B: very good year, did not win tourney.
Volleyball B: good year, no championship.
Field Hockey B: good year, no championship.
Cross country x2 A: conferences champions Golf: x2 C probably good as we can do x 2.
Track/field x2 C: slight improvement but no championship.

Soccer C+:good year no championship.
Softball C-: up and down finished down no champ
Tennis B: much improved no champ
Basketball x2: both C-(men D+ ladies C)
Baseball: D-: sad, step backwards, beat ourselves with errors, HBP, walks, walks, walks.

Good grades. No scandals. But not really much to cheer about either. No soccer and whether I like it or not , everything revolves around football, basketball and baseball. So, my overall grade is weighted by their performance.

Overall grade D

Field hockey was "MAC regular season co-champions", but lost in the conference tournament.

I guess I thought the championship went to the tourney championship. Reg season good but no tourney champ, so for me no A.

[Yosef84]

Football was a C season. We are accustomed to A seasons, so for an A program, a C feels like an F, but 5 wins would put us as an average program. Everybody wants to get back to an A, including me. I feel like both factors listed by the OP are in play though. The conference is stronger AND we under-performed. It's not an either/or situation. If this year's team had competed against the 2016 SunBelt, it probably would have been an 8 or 9 win season. No excuses. Should have been better.

Basketball and baseball both played decent for the talent available but both had gaps in the rosters. I think both were hit buy roster turnover. I think both coaches will have us back in the mix. This is the unfortunate reality of today's college sports. Maintaining a roster is damn near impossible on a consistent basis.

The Olympic sports did pretty well and hopefully can keep building. We have some positive trends going.

[BambooRdApp]

Football was a C season. We are accustomed to A seasons, so for an A program, a C feels like an F, but 5 wins would put us as an average program. Everybody wants to get back to an A, including me. I feel like both factors listed by the OP are in play though. The conference is stronger AND we under-performed. It's not an either/or situation. If this year's team had competed against the 2016 SunBelt, it probably would have been an 8 or 9 win season. No excuses. Should have been better.

Basketball and baseball both played decent for the talent available but both had gaps in the rosters. I think both were hit buy roster turnover. I think both coaches will have us back in the mix. This is the unfortunate reality of today's college sports. Maintaining a roster is damn near impossible on a consistent basis.

The Olympic sports did pretty well and hopefully can keep building. We have some positive trends going.

I will respectfully disagree.C's get degrees...in football, a C is st least getting to a bowl game IMHO. We did not do that. For me, has to be lower than a C.

[Bootsy]

Maintaining a roster is damn near impossible on a consistent basis.

This foundational truth is the new reality, guiding strategy/tactics for nearly every G5 program, regardless of institution.

[hapapp]

The unofficial Bubas Cup standings:

Bubas Cup standings
Rankings/Teams/Points
1. Texas State (152.5)
2. Arkansas State (139)
3. Coastal Carolina (124)
4. Louisiana (118.5)
5. Appalachian State (116)
6. Marshall (112)
7. Georgia Southern (110)
8. James Madison (107)
9. South Alabama (106.5)
Troy (106.5)
11. Southern Mississippi (95.5)
12. Old Dominion (83.5)
13. Georgia State (70)
14. ULM (65)

We were in third before baseball finished up play.

[mountaineerman]

D-

[BambooRdApp]

The unofficial Bubas Cup standings:

Bubas Cup standings
Rankings/Teams/Points
1. Texas State (152.5)
2. Arkansas State (139)
3. Coastal Carolina (124)
4. Louisiana (118.5)
5. Appalachian State (116)
6. Marshall (112)
7. Georgia Southern (110)
8. James Madison (107)
9. South Alabama (106.5)
Troy (106.5)
11. Southern Mississippi (95.5)
12. Old Dominion (83.5)
13. Georgia State (70)
14. ULM (65)

We were in third before baseball finished up play.

Is this SBC related sports? We have a few sports in Southern and MAC that did well this year

[hapapp]

The unofficial Bubas Cup standings:

Bubas Cup standings
Rankings/Teams/Points
1. Texas State (152.5)
2. Arkansas State (139)
3. Coastal Carolina (124)
4. Louisiana (118.5)
5. Appalachian State (116)
6. Marshall (112)
7. Georgia Southern (110)
8. James Madison (107)
9. South Alabama (106.5)
Troy (106.5)
11. Southern Mississippi (95.5)
12. Old Dominion (83.5)
13. Georgia State (70)
14. ULM (65)

We were in third before baseball finished up play.

Is this SBC related sports? We have a few sports in Southern and MAC that did well this year

Yes. It only includes in conference sports. Given the performance of our two sports in other conferences, overall our athletic performance is certainly above average when compared to our peers.. Of course, the average fan here seems only concerned about a couple of sports. That is somewhat understandable because they receive the most coverage.

[mike87]

The unofficial Bubas Cup standings:

Bubas Cup standings
Rankings/Teams/Points
1. Texas State (152.5)
2. Arkansas State (139)
3. Coastal Carolina (124)
4. Louisiana (118.5)
5. Appalachian State (116)
6. Marshall (112)
7. Georgia Southern (110)
8. James Madison (107)
9. South Alabama (106.5)
Troy (106.5)
11. Southern Mississippi (95.5)
12. Old Dominion (83.5)
13. Georgia State (70)
14. ULM (65)

We were in third before baseball finished up play.

Is this SBC related sports? We have a few sports in Southern and MAC that did well this year

Yes. It only includes in conference sports. Given the performance of our two sports in other conferences, overall our athletic performance is certainly above average when compared to our peers.. Of course, the average fan here seems only concerned about a couple of sports. That is somewhat understandable because they receive the most coverage.

Ricky Bobby disagrees.

[Bigdaddyg1]

If you only used football, men’s and women’s basketball and baseball as the Cup criteria how would the standings have looked for say the last 10 years? I think that would be an interesting graph to see. All sports are important but if we only based this on the top ones how would it look?