Ross & UNC-BOG puts brakes on ASU doctoral plans

[asu66]

A few weeks ago, the UNC-BOG put the brakes on plans UNC-W was developing for a new doctoral program. They cited needless duplication for their action.

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/2 ... #gsc.tab=0

Today's edition of THE DAILY TARHEEL cites similar action to roadblock new ASU doctoral programs for at least five years. Apparently, the exalted UNC Pres. and BOG, in their infinite knowledge while meeting upon the highest of high ivory towers, decided WNC has no need for new doctoral programs; or will have no such need for five years. Perhaps I've just been naive for years and years; but I didn't know the UNC brass could just re-write a member university's mission statement out of the clear blue Chapel-Hill skies. That's hard to swallow.

Why do I now have grave reservation about Ross' selection of ASU's new Chancellor? He may just be looking for a "yes" man or woman. Just what we need!

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/201 ... ings-feb-7

ASU mission statement draws criticism

By Sharon Nunn | The Daily Tar Heel
Updated: 13 hours ago

Appalachian State University’s current mission statement bars the university from adding new doctoral degree programs for five years, after a new revision by the UNC-system Board of Governors and system President Tom Ross.

The change drew criticism from some ASU leaders, including the chancellor, who want to expand the school’s graduate offerings.

ASU initially revised and submitted a mission statement last fall, which was first approved by the campus’ Board of Trustees and then sent to the Board of Governors, which changed the words in the statement from doctoral programs to specifically referencing the singular doctorate in education.

The change effectively cut ASU’s ability to add other Ph.D. programs.

Lori Gonzalez, provost and executive vice chancellor of ASU, said it would limit the possible addition of degrees that could positively impact the western North Carolina region.

“Consistency in the BOG’s approach to mission statements at all campuses like Appalachian is very important for each campus’ strategic development,” Gonzalez said.

[BeauFoster]

The UNC board of governors can kiss my ass. And I mean that. They can smooch smooch smooch away.

[GoApps70]

They need to be brought to task for their actions. Purely political and regional in it's intent. For some reason they seem to feel hurting us helps them. How long will this continue to go on without repercussions? Will someone at least tell them that our football players can read.

[appst89]

Unfortunately, I don't expect anything else out of Chapel Hell educrats.

[moehler]

this isn't surprising, everyone knows the BOG is a puppet board with UNC pulling the strings, facts are, we probably are never going to get a fair shake in the UNC system, the people at Chapel Hill will make sure of that. Really pisses me off because all we are trying to do is improve the academics of our collage, but since UNC sees that as a potential threat, we lose.

[T-Dog]

Peter D. Hans
Board of Governors, Chairman, Term 2011 - 2015
Strategic Directions Committee, Chair
4185 English Garden Way
Raleigh, NC 27612
Phone: (919) 329-3815
Email: peter.hans@nelsonmullins.com

H. Frank Grainger
Board of Governors, Vice Chairman, Term 2011 - 2015
University Governance Committee
Post Office Box 386
Cary, NC 27512
Phone: (919) 467-1599
Email: renee@fairproductsinc.com

Ann B. Goodnight
Board of Governors, Secretary, Term 2011 - 2015
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee
Public Affairs Committee
SAS Campus Drive
Cary, NC 27513
Email: ann.goodnight@sas.com

Roger Aiken
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Audit Committee
Budget and Finance Committee
190 Biltmore Avenue
Asheville, NC 28801
Phone: (828) 258-0546
Email: rogeraiken60@gmail.com

W. Louis Bissette, Jr.
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Audit Committee
Budget and Finance Committee, Chair
Post Office Box 3180
Asheville, NC 28802-3180
Phone: (828) 254-8800
Email: lbissette@mwbavl.com

Fred N. Eshelman
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Audit Committee, Chair
Strategic Directions Committee
300 N. Third Street, Suite 110
Wilmington, NC 28401
Phone: (910) 558-6885

John C. Fennebresque
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Personnel and Tenure Committee, Chair
Public Affairs Committee
201 N. Tryon Street
Suite 3000
Charlotte, NC 28202
Phone: (704) 373-8989
Email: jfennebresque@mcguirewoods.com

Hannah D. Gage
Board of Governors, Emeritus Member
Strategic Directions Committee
6046 Leeward Lane
Wilmington, NC 28409
Phone: (910) 790-9375
Email: hgage@ec.rr.com

Thomas J. Harrelson
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Audit Committee
University Governance Committee, Secretary
202 West Bay Street
Southport, NC 28461
Phone: (910) 457-5558
thomasharrelson@aol.com

Henry W. Hinton
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee
Public Affairs Committee
3062 Dartmouth Drive
Greenville, NC 27858
Phone: (252) 355-8822
Email: hintonbog@gmail.com

James L. Holmes, Jr.
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015 [Term 2013-15]
Personnel and Tenure Committee, Secretary
Public Affairs Committee
4700 Six Forks Road, Suite 200
Raleigh, NC 27609
Phone: (919) 926-4623
Email: jholmes@sentinelra.com

Rodney E. Hood
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Audit Committee
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee
2111 Wisconsin Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20007
Phone: (202) 585-6303
Email: Rodneyhood@aol.com

W. Marty Kotis III
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Audit Committee
Budget and Finance Committee
Post Office Box 9296
Greensboro, NC 27429
Phone: (336) 574-2000
Email: martykotis@gmail.com

G. Leroy Lail
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
University Governance Committee, Vice Chair
2258 Highway 70 SE
Hickory, NC 28602
Phone: (828) 322-4825 x301
Email: leroylail@hickoryfurniture.com

Scott Lampe
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Audit Committee, Vice Chair
Budget and Finance Committee
17927 River Ford Drive
Davidson, NC 28036
Phone: (704) 455-0530
Email: slampe71@gmail.com

Steven B. Long
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee
150 Fayetteville Street, Suite 1400
Raleigh, NC 27601
Phone: (919) 835-4683
Email: longsbzc@gmail.com

Joan G. MacNeill
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Budget and Finance Committee, Vice Chair
33 Town Square Blvd. #205
Asheville, NC 28803
Email: macneill85@gmail.com

Mary Ann Maxwell
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Public Affairs Committee
University Governance Committee
616 Lake Shore Drive
Goldsboro, NC 27534
Phone: (919) 705-3219
Email: amax2@suddenlink.net

W. Edwin McMahan
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Public Affairs Committee, Chair
University Governance Committee
5815 Westpark Drive
Charlotte, NC 28217
Phone: (704) 561-3402
Email: emcmahan@littleonline.com

W. G. Champion Mitchell
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee, Secretary
Public Affairs Committee
3009 River Lane
New Bern, NC 28562
Email: mitchelluncbog@gmail.com

Hari H. Nath
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee, Vice Chair
Public Affairs Committee
102 Loch Stone Lane
Cary, NC 27518
Phone: (919) 803-0478
Email: hnath45@yahoo.com

Robert J. Nunnery
Board of Governors, Ex Officio Member
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee, term ends 2014
UNC Association of Student Governments
140 Friday Center Drive
Chapel Hill, NC 27517
Phone: (919) 843-6744
Email: president@uncasg.org

R. Doyle Parrish
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Personnel and Tenure Committee
Public Affairs Committee
Post Office Box 31747
Raleigh, NC 27612
Phone: (919) 787-5100
Email: doyle@shgltd.com

Joan Templeton Perry, M.D.
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Audit Committee
University Governance Committee
1208 Sweetbriar Circle
Kinston, NC 28501
Phone: (252) 522-2882
Email: jpuncbog@gmail.com

Therence O. Pickett
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Personnel and Tenure Committee
7900 National Service Road
Greensboro, NC 27409
Phone: (336) 393-3850
Email: pickettbog@gmail.com

David M. Powers
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Public Affairs Committee
University Governance Committee, Chair
130 Copperfield Place Court
Winston-Salem, NC 27106
Phone: (336) 741-2754
powersd@rjrt.com

Robert S. Rippy
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
University Governance Committee
100 Windlass Drive
Wilmington, NC 28403
Phone: (910) 791-8107
Email: rippyuncbog@gmail.com

Harry Leo Smith, Jr.
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Budget and Finance Committee, Secretary
Public Affairs Committee
531 Flanders Filter Road
Washington, NC 27889
Phone: (252) 946-8081
Email: hsmith@flanderscorp.com

J. Craig Souza
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee, Chair
Public Affairs Committee
2820 Glenwood Gardens Lane #104
Raleigh, NC 27608
Phone: (919) 782-3827
Email: craigs@nchcfa.org

George A. Sywassink
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Personnel and Tenure Committee, Vice Chair
33 Office Park Road Suite A-352
Hilton Head, SC 29928-4612
Phone: (843) 363-2273
Email: sywassinkg@gmail.com (More Details)

Richard F. "Dick" Taylor
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Audit Committee, Secretary
Personnel and Tenure Committee
Post Office Box 111
Lumberton, NC 28359
Phone: (910) 739-1111
Email: tarheel111@att.net

Raiford Trask III
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee
Public Affairs Committee
1202 Eastwood Road
Wilmington, NC 28403
Phone: (910) 512-5084
(More Details)

Phillip D. Walker
Board of Governors, Term 2011 - 2015
Educational Planning, Policies, and Programs Committee
Public Affairs Committee, Secretary
451 43rd Avenue, NW
Hickory, NC 28601
Email: pdwalk@charter.net

Laura I. Wiley
Board of Governors, Term 2013 - 2017
Personnel and Tenure Committee
Public Affairs Committee, Vice Chair
4018 Quartergate Drive
High Point, NC 27265
Phone: (336) 841-1561
Email: UNCBOGWiley@gmail.com

[Gonzo]

Has a coalition of UNC System schools ever brought legal action against the mothership?

[Appsolutley]

They can all kiss my entire fanny.

[T-Dog]

In some states there are two or more university systems.

The NC State University System doesn't sound like a bad idea.

[appst89]

In some states there are two or more university systems.

The NC State University System doesn't sound like a bad idea.

Yeah, I think Texas has about six university systems. Surely North Carolina could handle two?

[MAD Doctor]

Are these the same geniuses who approved the African Studies curriculum at UNC-CHeat?

[asu66]

Are these the same geniuses who approved the African Studies curriculum at UNC-CHeat?

No, wait! Not all of 'em. George A. Sywassink is new on the GOV; and he's one of "our" guys.

[Rekdiver]

What was turned down. I know Eshelman, Fennebresque and of course Scott Lampe is a Yosef Club Member. Before I say anything it wou be good to know facts.

[newtoasu]

In some states there are two or more university systems.

The NC State University System doesn't sound like a bad idea.

Yeah, I think Texas has about six university systems. Surely North Carolina could handle two?

That is correct. Texas has 6 university systems (UT, A&M, Hounston, North Texas, Texas Tech and Texas State), as well as 4 independent universities (Stephen F Austin, Texas Southern, Texas Women's and Midwestern State).

[AppinVA]

Maybe that we plan to staff the classes with professors and require students to attend is too much for those folks in Chapel Hill. Aaaaand people wonder why I detest that school.

[asu66]

What was turned down. I know Eshelman, Fennebresque and of course Scott Lampe is a Yosef Club Member. Before I say anything it wou be good to know facts.

If your question is for me...

Certainly, all we have right this minute is a published report in The Daily Tar Heel that the BOG revised ASU's mission statement to block any new doctoral programs for five years; and that our current Chancellor and Provost are miffed to say the least. We also know from the Wilmington STAR NEWS that the BOG also blocked UNC-W plans for a new doctoral program.

That's enough for me to post the report and to be most unhappy about it. If I learn five minutes from now or five days from now that the published report is in error; I'll report same.

I became aware of the Wilmington situation a couple of weeks ago from a friend on the Seahawk faculty. I sat on the info hoping it would be a strictly an issue at/for UNC-W. Today, I learned it's a far bigger story than just Eastern NC politics. And I posted it; and I'm glad that I did.

When, and if, I get more pertinent info, you can bet your last dollar bill you'll find it right here on the MMB. So what's your problem, may I ask?

[Apps03]

Full disclosure: I checked in on mobile and couldn't access the article. I'd like to know a couple things:
1. What are the programs that were denied?
2. What is the duplication?
3. What is AppGrad1's opinion on this?

[bcoach]

The only thing that would surprise me about this is if someone here is surprised by it.

[asu66]

I'll let you do your reading when you get home to a bigger screen. It starts with "recommendations" from a consulting firm employed by the BOG. Those recommendations were apparently "right down Tom Ross' alley" (This might be expected; as we know what paid consultants do.). Regardless of the recommendations, BOG approval is required for acceptance or implementation.

Here are a few quick quotations from the Wilmington STAR NEWS article that seems to sum up the BOG position.

[ 'But in recent years, the board of governors has tried to avoid approving programs that would replicate programs already in place, such as the marine science program, Gage said.

"We're working hard to be efficient and only approve new programs when there is compelling need," she said. "We also favor new programs that are developed collaboratively with other campuses. This often strengthens the program and brings costs down."' ]

[ 'And Gage emphasized that campuses such as UNCW that want to add more doctoral programs "didn't get the door slammed in their face."

"We're just scrutinizing every request and every penny we spend," Gage said.' ]

[T-Dog]

Here's the mission statement the BOT approved in September.