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JMU is just spinning wheels. They don't want they can get; and they can't get what they want. Catch 22. In no way are Coastal and EKU ready. Facilities are lacking at both schools. Missouri State is ready in about everything but football. Their basketball and baseball facilities would put them virtually atop the Sunbelt in those two sports. They need a football stadium seating expansion in the worst of ways. Chattanooga also has the football and basketball facilities; but a few gaps otherwise. Liberty is Liberty. Resources out the ying-yang.8993 wrote:Since we don't have a travel partner this year, I was wondering what our fanbase was thinking on who we want next year, as the Sun Belt will almost definitely be adding a new member at that time.
Who do you want to see added? James Madison? UTC? Coastal? EKU? MSU? Liberty? A dark horse school?
8993 wrote:Since we don't have a travel partner this year, I was wondering what our fanbase was thinking on who we want next year, as the Sun Belt will almost definitely be adding a new member at that time.
Who do you want to see added? James Madison? UTC? Coastal? EKU? MSU? Liberty? A dark horse school?
Missouri State has started a renovation/expansion project on their football field.asu66 wrote:They need a football stadium seating expansion in the worst of ways.
I don't think that's an issue, because I think every team is likely to leave the Sun Belt if another conference comes calling.kiddbrewer wrote:
1. JMU, even today, I would like to have them in considering they think they are too good for the SunBelt. And they would be more likely to leave the SunBelt if another conference comes calling.
appbio91 wrote:I stopped keeping up with this. Is UMASS still in the conversation at all?
In a way, I agree with you. But, if the Sun Belt's football continues to improve, and I don't see a reason why it wouldn't, along with the possible continued #1 ranking the Sun Belt had of the G5 like last year (how much additional money did that bring in for the conference?), along with the potential decline of TV revenue for the other conferences, in particular CUSA's package, it could slow down the revolving door of the Sun Belt.EastHallApp wrote:I don't think that's an issue, because I think every team is likely to leave the Sun Belt if another conference comes calling.kiddbrewer wrote:
1. JMU, even today, I would like to have them in considering they think they are too good for the SunBelt. And they would be more likely to leave the SunBelt if another conference comes calling.
Everyone just needs to remember that the "travel partner" is not for App State, but for the western teams visiting App State. So, if we are dead-set on adding a 12th member, I hope it's JMU as it would benefit App the most.kiddbrewer wrote:Missouri State has started a renovation/expansion project on their football field.asu66 wrote:They need a football stadium seating expansion in the worst of ways.
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1. JMU, even today, I would like to have them in considering they think they are too good for the SunBelt. And they would be more likely to leave the SunBelt if another conference comes calling.
2. Missouri St, they won't help the "travel partner" aspect of it, but would bring in some quality sports outside of football
3. Liberty, yes Liberty. They want in and I feel like they wouldn't dart out at the drop of a hat, like JMU.
The others that have been mentioned are 2-3 years away from being ready.
As to the Conference Championship Game waiver, I would like to have 12, just for the balanced divisions and possibly a less likelihood that a team (like Georgia Southern) getting a schedule that keeps them from seeing the toughest teams in the conference.
Actually, a travel partner would significantly benefit App State as well. ASU really needs another conference mate which is an easy bus ride from Boone for cost containment purposes.ASUMountaineer wrote:Everyone just needs to remember that the "travel partner" is not for App State, but for the western teams visiting App State. So, if we are dead-set on adding a 12th member, I hope it's JMU as it would benefit App the most.
It doesn't bother me that they would be likely to leave if a better offer came along--we would too. My loyalty is with App's best interest, not the Sun Belt's.
I don't disagree, and actually I did not indicate that a travel partner would not be beneficial to App State. I simply pointed out that the term "travel partner" is referring to the travel of visiting conference schools.Cincy App wrote:Actually, a travel partner would significantly benefit App State as well. ASU really needs another conference mate which is an easy bus ride from Boone for cost containment purposes.ASUMountaineer wrote:Everyone just needs to remember that the "travel partner" is not for App State, but for the western teams visiting App State. So, if we are dead-set on adding a 12th member, I hope it's JMU as it would benefit App the most.
It doesn't bother me that they would be likely to leave if a better offer came along--we would too. My loyalty is with App's best interest, not the Sun Belt's.
Yes, unfortunately that's how conferences seek to expand now, trying to cover the most geographic area (read: TV markets) possible. Having more than one team from the same state is actually considered a bad thing now. But, you know, it's all about what's best for the student-athletes.AtlAppMan wrote:
BTW, if you have looked at AAC and C-USA, they also face the exact same issues as the Belt from a total geographical perspective so we are in good company.
AtlAppMan wrote:People always talk about "travel partners" with this notion that these teams are frequently traveling around together with another school's teams somehow achieving significant travel savings. I travel all the time, in airports all over the country and can tell you I have never seen two school's teams traveling together. I see all levels of collegiate teams (except their football) basketball, baseball, soccer, etc. going through airports everywhere taking commercial flights. I have seen Boise State labeled Alaska Air airplanes (turboprop), Oregon State, etc on the tarmac so I assume many have cut a deal to fly many of their teams via chartered flights. If you travel much and have used Googlemaps, you quickly understand that there is not much benefit to multiple teams traveling together. We are not going to be taking many bus rides anymore. App needs to cut a deal with Southwest Airlines or some smaller charter services to handle our needs in the Belt.
BTW, if you have looked at AAC and C-USA, they also face the exact same issues as the Belt from a total geographical perspective so we are in good company.
So really, App not having a travel partner effects other schools in the conference more than App.goapps93 wrote:if JMU were our "travel partner" then the SunBelt coud schedule someone like Texas State, in baseball, to play both App and JMU in the same trip, flying to a city near one, driving to the other and flying home from city near that one.
