Look, I know SATs don't truly measure an individual's capacity for intellectual thought... but it doesn't change the fact that App State > GaSo, ECU, UNCc, WCU the Sun Belt...

http://www.businessinsider.com/smartest ... ca-2014-10

This doesn't surprise me. App has always been a good academic school. I don't know how UNCW is in front of us

crossza wrote:This doesn't surprise me. App has always been a good academic school. I don't know how UNCW is in front of us

UNCW is a good school.

APPARJ wrote:

crossza wrote:This doesn't surprise me. App has always been a good academic school. I don't know how UNCW is in front of us

UNCW is a good school.

I know they are but I think we are better

crossza wrote:

APPARJ wrote:

crossza wrote:This doesn't surprise me. App has always been a good academic school. I don't know how UNCW is in front of us

UNCW is a good school.

I know they are but I think we are better

You don't really judge whether a school is "better" by SAT scores. Just because UNCW has better SAT scores doesn't mean it is better than App.

UNCW is a good school. App is a good school. This state is filled with good schools that excel at different things. We are fortunate to live in a state with such a great diversity of high-quality academic institutions and programs. The commitment to not only having high quality institutions, but also affordable institutions is what has always helped North Carolina stand out from its peers in the south and is why we are such an attractive spot for business today.

UNCW is a good school. App is a good school. This state is filled with good schools that excel at different things. We are fortunate to live in a state with such a great diversity of high-quality academic institutions and programs. The commitment to not only having high quality institutions, but also affordable institutions is what has always helped North Carolina stand out from its peers in the south and is why we are such an attractive spot for business today.[/quote]

Very well put, however the crowd running things in education in North Carolina , now, are quickly changing this.

WER4ASU wrote:UNCW is a good school. App is a good school. This state is filled with good schools that excel at different things. We are fortunate to live in a state with such a great diversity of high-quality academic institutions and programs. The commitment to not only having high quality institutions, but also affordable institutions is what has always helped North Carolina stand out from its peers in the south and is why we are such an attractive spot for business today.

Very well put, however the crowd running things in education in North Carolina , now, are quickly changing this.[/quote]

Yes, because the previous ones in charge did such a great job! Tuition outpaced inflation by over 400%.

SAT's aside, our incoming freshmen gpa's are higher than uncw. We exceed 4.0 (can't remember the exact #) and are behind only unc, maybe state.

also, this analysis in this article measures average scores....ASU gets a lot more applicants and more incoming freshmen than uncw and unca....2 schools that were ahead of us in NC. unca and uncw generally have been right around or slightly above us, partly because they have a smaller pool of applicants, thus impacting the final average. UNCA, especially, has a very small concentrated group that applies...not as wide of a net and not as wide of an appeal.

Rick0714 wrote:

WER4ASU wrote:
Very well put, however the crowd running things in education in North Carolina , now, are quickly changing this.

Yes, because the previous ones in charge did such a great job! Tuition outpaced inflation by over 400%.

Whatever happened to the housing market in 2008 will soon happen to colleges in the very near future. We are experiencing a tuition bubble. The price of tuition far exceeds the value and eventually kids will either stop going to college or default on their loans.

This bubble might actually be worse because a degree isn't anything but a piece of paper. I can go sell my house for less than I paid for it but I can't sell my degree.

You can't really look at GPA the same way anymore. So many of them are inflated with honors classes and AP classes that are not up to the rigor that they should be. The effort it use to take to get a 3.5 now gets you a 4.0. and those in the higher ends are 4.8+. GPA is getting to a pretty absurd point.

You can't really look at GPA the same way anymore. So many of them are inflated with honors classes and AP classes that are not up to the rigor that they should b

That's why many schools use unweighted GPA in making admissions decisions.

DoubleA wrote:You can't really look at GPA the same way anymore. So many of them are inflated with honors classes and AP classes that are not up to the rigor that they should b

That's why many schools use unweighted GPA in making admissions decisions.

I don't know if it is state-wide or not but I would assume any high school that uses weighted GPAs do so for class rank, which is one data point for colleges to look at. Otherwise why bother with weighting classes. However the standard NC transcript includes both weighted and unweighted GPAs along with SAT and ACT and other state test scores.