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Unread post by asu66 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:33 pm

JTApps1 wrote:
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WVAPPeer wrote:APP hasn't used "gold" since I started attending games in 1998...
I think we made the switch from "old gold" to the current yellow in the '70s. Not sure on the date - the current colors were so well-established by the time I was a student in the '90s that I had no idea App ever wore actual gold until years later.
I believe the first year for Athletic/Yellow gold was 1983 when Mack Brown came in. Supposedly our supplier at the time (Cooks Sporting Goods in Wilksboro) had trouble getting gold uniforms that matched. They convinced our AD to use Athletic Gold as it was much easier to match and supply. A lot of schools (Pitt and Wake come to mind) switched in that time period due to this. Of course some have switched back to their original colors as companies were able to produce better products.

Our version of athletics gold has changed over the years to the point it is now almost yellow. It was a few shades deeper in the 80's when we first switched.

You can sorta get a feel for it in this video. OK so not eally, but it's crazy to see how much things have changed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2lTfHXjE2U
Good post, JT. You've got your history down pat. James Cook and Mack Brown were and are friends of mine. James is a neighbor a few blocks away. Nonetheless, I haven't forgiven either of them for ditching the Old Gold/Vegas Gold colors. And you're spot on with the ever-changing Pantone shades of the so-called "Appalachian Gold." I simply think the bright "athletic gold" is gaudy, garish and cheaply showy. To me, it lacks class. I won't live long enough to grow fond of it. But that's just me.

Oh, BTW, T-dog, where-ever you are, where's the BIG NEWS that was supposed to be unleashed on us yesterday. Haven't seen anything that rocked my little world yet! :D
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Unread post by DoubleA » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:21 pm

I knew it was sometime in the early mid - 80's when we took the look of the Iowa Hawkeyes over Army Black Knights, but had forgotten we have Mack Brown to thank. If anyone is confused on what gold looks like, refer to Notre Dame or Army.

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Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:40 am

I do wish we would stick with the A on the helmet then go with Yosef on the sleeve for our normal uniform, and then for the alternate have Yosef on the helmet with the A on the sleeve. It just doesn't make sense to have the same logo on both the helmet and sleeve.

Also, use the white A on the helmet and save the black A to use on white jerseys and pants.
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DoubleA wrote:I knew it was sometime in the early mid - 80's when we took the look of the Iowa Hawkeyes over Army Black Knights, but had forgotten we have Mack Brown to thank. If anyone is confused on what gold looks like, refer to Notre Dame or Army.
True enough. Or one could look a bit closer to home at Wake Forest Gold, Wofford Gold, Georgia Tech Gold, FSU Gold or even Elon Gold. They're all a little different, but all are classier than the "Crime Scene Tape Yellow" that came in with Mack Brown and stayed around for 30 years in 18 different shades of in-your-face-ugly.

Notre Dame Gold
http://onmessage.nd.edu/notre-dame-bran ... rds/color/

US Military Academy Gold
http://goarmywestpointrebrand.com/

Wake Forest Gold
http://identitystandards.wfu.edu/colors ... per-stock/

Wofford Gold
https://www.wofford.edu/uploadedFiles/m ... oSheet.pdf

Georgia Tech Gold
https://www.google.com/searchq=Georgia+ ... RQBMG0M%3A

Florida State Gold
http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/332 ... ial_Colors

Elon Gold
http://www.elon.edu/e-web/university_re ... lors.xhtml

AppState Gold (aka Crime Scene Tape Yellow)
http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

Here's a challenge to everyone. Sometime when you're on campus with 15-20 minutes to spare, take a casual walk through Homes Convo Ctr and count the many shades of crime scene gold/yellow used in the original construction. I guarantee you'll find no fewer than 18 different shades...walls, floor tile, seats, railings, caution strips, trim, lavatory fixtures, concession booths, dressing rooms, media interview rooms, et al. It is simply unbelievable that an architect could so wildly prescribe such a mismatched color plan for a facility of this type.

I promise you, that same architect didn't prescribe 18+ shades of blue for the Smith Center in Chapel Hell. We have former VC Jane Helm to thank for the mess in HCC.
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Re: App State and Nike through 2022, All-Gold Unis

Unread post by 8993 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:34 am

asu66 wrote:
DoubleA wrote:I knew it was sometime in the early mid - 80's when we took the look of the Iowa Hawkeyes over Army Black Knights, but had forgotten we have Mack Brown to thank. If anyone is confused on what gold looks like, refer to Notre Dame or Army.
True enough. Or one could look a bit closer to home at Wake Forest Gold, Wofford Gold, Georgia Tech Gold, FSU Gold or even Elon Gold. They're all a little different, but all are classier than the "Crime Scene Tape Yellow" that came in with Mack Brown and stayed around for 30 years in 18 different shades of in-your-face-ugly.

Notre Dame Gold
http://onmessage.nd.edu/notre-dame-bran ... rds/color/

US Military Academy Gold
http://goarmywestpointrebrand.com/

Wake Forest Gold
http://identitystandards.wfu.edu/colors ... per-stock/

Wofford Gold
https://www.wofford.edu/uploadedFiles/m ... oSheet.pdf

Georgia Tech Gold
https://www.google.com/searchq=Georgia+ ... RQBMG0M%3A

Florida State Gold
http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/332 ... ial_Colors

Elon Gold
http://www.elon.edu/e-web/university_re ... lors.xhtml

AppState Gold (aka Crime Scene Tape Yellow)
http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

Here's a challenge to everyone. Sometime when you're on campus with 15-20 minutes to spare, take a casual walk through Homes Convo Ctr and count the many shades of crime scene gold/yellow used in the original construction. I guarantee you'll find no fewer than 18 different shades...walls, floor tile, seats, railings, caution strips, trim, lavatory fixtures, concession booths, dressing rooms, media interview rooms, et al. It is simply unbelievable that an architect could so wildly prescribe such a mismatched color plan for a facility of this type.

I promise you, that same architect didn't prescribe 18+ shades of blue for the Smith Center in Chapel Hell. We have former VC Jane Helm to thank for the mess in HCC.
I get that you're not a fan of Appalachian's gold, I do, but what do you expect to be done?

In my honest opinion, I never see Appalachian State going back to "Wake Forest gold", as the yellow-gold we use now has become a part of our brand. Is it actually gold? No, I don't think so, but what sounds better, "black & gold" or "black & yellow"? Appalachian's brand is built around our colors and our iconic block 'A'. If we were to change any of that now, we'd likely see a bit of identity crisis. From paint around campus to redoing all athletic uniforms, to so many other things, the yellow-gold we often see now is the norm here. Does everybody have to like it? Definitely not, but there's no sense in saying it's crime scene gold or any other insult. I think it fits our branding well and I'm happy with it. I don't think the shade of gold that we use is something we should all get in a tiff about.

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Re: App State and Nike through 2022, All-Gold Unis

Unread post by DoubleA » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:52 pm

In my honest opinion, I never see Appalachian State going back to "Wake Forest gold", as the yellow-gold we use now has become a part of our brand.

Why not, we change uniform schemes every year, and in fact have multiple variations each year.

Not to seem argumentative, as I totally understand that many know nothing else but the various shades of yellow. However, our official colors are black and gold, not black and yellow, not grey and yellow, not navy and yellow. Heck, various shades of navy look great, why not try it and call it black? After all, black becomes dull and mundane after awhile. Everyone else seems to use black, even when black is not an official color.

Seriously, for those of us who don't wear black well as a primary color, gold is a very good choice. I seek out gold ASU gear when I can find it and stay clear of yellow the best I can.

I personally think the yellow uniforms looks cheasy. Current day uniforms look best when we use yellow as a secondary accent color and stick to black and white for primaries. That could change if we would go back to our true school colors.

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Re: App State and Nike through 2022, All-Gold Unis

Unread post by asu66 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:24 pm

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asu66 wrote:
DoubleA wrote:I knew it was sometime in the early mid - 80's when we took the look of the Iowa Hawkeyes over Army Black Knights, but had forgotten we have Mack Brown to thank. If anyone is confused on what gold looks like, refer to Notre Dame or Army.
True enough. Or one could look a bit closer to home at Wake Forest Gold, Wofford Gold, Georgia Tech Gold, FSU Gold or even Elon Gold. They're all a little different, but all are classier than the "Crime Scene Tape Yellow" that came in with Mack Brown and stayed around for 30 years in 18 different shades of in-your-face-ugly.

Notre Dame Gold
http://onmessage.nd.edu/notre-dame-bran ... rds/color/

US Military Academy Gold
http://goarmywestpointrebrand.com/

Wake Forest Gold
http://identitystandards.wfu.edu/colors ... per-stock/

Wofford Gold
https://www.wofford.edu/uploadedFiles/m ... oSheet.pdf

Georgia Tech Gold
https://www.google.com/searchq=Georgia+ ... RQBMG0M%3A

Florida State Gold
http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/332 ... ial_Colors

Elon Gold
http://www.elon.edu/e-web/university_re ... lors.xhtml

AppState Gold (aka Crime Scene Tape Yellow)
http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

Here's a challenge to everyone. Sometime when you're on campus with 15-20 minutes to spare, take a casual walk through Homes Convo Ctr and count the many shades of crime scene gold/yellow used in the original construction. I guarantee you'll find no fewer than 18 different shades...walls, floor tile, seats, railings, caution strips, trim, lavatory fixtures, concession booths, dressing rooms, media interview rooms, et al. It is simply unbelievable that an architect could so wildly prescribe such a mismatched color plan for a facility of this type.

I promise you, that same architect didn't prescribe 18+ shades of blue for the Smith Center in Chapel Hell. We have former VC Jane Helm to thank for the mess in HCC.
I get that you're not a fan of Appalachian's gold, I do, but what do you expect to be done?

I'd like to see Old Gold (Metallic Gold--Pantone 871C ) worked back into the uni rotation in major sports--because (despite your youth and life experience) it is an all-time Appalachian tradition and because it remains one of Appalachian's "Primary Colors." Check behind me if you wish... http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

It's so special in Appalachian's history that its use now requires special permission. IMHO, all that would be required would be Doug Gillin's phone call to Chancellor Everts for clearance to use it in throwback unis one game per year--Homecoming for Football and Basketball Alumni Weekend for the men's and women's teams. That would be a nice compromise to please the many, many fans who prefer colors that evoke a classic and rich heritage that has been part of Appalachian from the very beginning--since like 1899. There's a lot more to ASU's history and tradition than 1984 to the present.


...but there's no sense in saying it's crime scene gold or any other insult. I think it fits our branding well and I'm happy with it. I don't think the shade of gold that we use is something we should all get in a tiff about.
No one is in a tiff, exactly. It's just that the change was made at the request of a football coach who stayed on the job fewer than 12 months. Thanks again for all the memories, Mack! Furthermore, it was a change crammed down the throats of students and alumni without any discussion, notification, popular vote or input of any sort. We were basically told by TPTB to "shut up about it 'cause the decision has been made." It was not well-received. There is a significant portion of the living alumni base that has neither accepted the decision nor the way in which it was handled. It will remain a sore spot as long as those folks are around.

As for my "crime scene tape yellow" remark. If the colors match, and they do, then... :evil:
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Re: App State and Nike through 2022, All-Gold Unis

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:37 pm

I admit I had no idea that there were App fans who so disliked our school colors.

Someone else posted this link, but for those who need a refresher, here are our school colors:

http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

App's not going to revert back to the Wake Forest look. It's just not happening. 99% of everything that most people know about Appalachian athletics has happened wearing the current colors, not the ones that only exist in the grainy footage.

Maybe we can ask Nike to work on some throwback uniforms with the old gold that we can wear once to appease the older folks.

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:49 pm

I dont care what alternate uni's we have but we should NEVER give up all Black

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Unread post by asu66 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:46 pm

EastHallApp wrote:I admit I had no idea that there were App fans who so disliked our school colors.

Someone else posted this link, but for those who need a refresher, here are our school colors:

http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

I trust that you didn't miss Pantone 871C on that page. It is and always has been an official Appalachian school color. No one has asked for the university to change colors. Just use all the colors in a rotation that allows for those pesky older folks to recognize their university and their traditions once in a while. Exactly, what would be wrong with that?

BTW, the time will come, sooner than you think, that you'll find yourself among those so-called older folks. Trust me. ;)
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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:04 pm

asu66 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:I admit I had no idea that there were App fans who so disliked our school colors.

Someone else posted this link, but for those who need a refresher, here are our school colors:

http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

I trust that you didn't miss Pantone 871C on that page. It is and always has been an official Appalachian school color. No one has asked for the university to change colors. Just use all the colors in a rotation that allows for those pesky older folks to recognize their university and their traditions once in a while. Exactly, what would be wrong with that?

BTW, the time will come, sooner than you think, that you'll find yourself among those so-called older folks. Trust me. ;)
And I trust you didn't miss this note under that color:

Restricted use: Metallic gold (Pantone 871C) and gold foil may only be used by the Office of the Chancellor, or with permission from the Office of University Communication.

Translation: That one's not for sports.

And yes, I'm well on my way to being an old-timer. Remember, I'm the one who suggested we could do a throwback uni if people really want to see the old gold.

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Unread post by DoubleA » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:14 pm

Restricted use: Metallic gold (Pantone 871C) and gold foil may only be used by the Office of the Chancellor, or with permission from the Office of University Communication

Until the Chancellor's office signs its new Nike contract, then they'll fall in line on the yellow.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:19 pm

All-Gold for Howard. All-Black for Black Saturday.

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =210268546

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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:54 am

asu66 wrote:
8993 wrote:
asu66 wrote:
DoubleA wrote:I knew it was sometime in the early mid - 80's when we took the look of the Iowa Hawkeyes over Army Black Knights, but had forgotten we have Mack Brown to thank. If anyone is confused on what gold looks like, refer to Notre Dame or Army.
True enough. Or one could look a bit closer to home at Wake Forest Gold, Wofford Gold, Georgia Tech Gold, FSU Gold or even Elon Gold. They're all a little different, but all are classier than the "Crime Scene Tape Yellow" that came in with Mack Brown and stayed around for 30 years in 18 different shades of in-your-face-ugly.

Notre Dame Gold
http://onmessage.nd.edu/notre-dame-bran ... rds/color/

US Military Academy Gold
http://goarmywestpointrebrand.com/

Wake Forest Gold
http://identitystandards.wfu.edu/colors ... per-stock/

Wofford Gold
https://www.wofford.edu/uploadedFiles/m ... oSheet.pdf

Georgia Tech Gold
https://www.google.com/searchq=Georgia+ ... RQBMG0M%3A

Florida State Gold
http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/332 ... ial_Colors

Elon Gold
http://www.elon.edu/e-web/university_re ... lors.xhtml

AppState Gold (aka Crime Scene Tape Yellow)
http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

Here's a challenge to everyone. Sometime when you're on campus with 15-20 minutes to spare, take a casual walk through Homes Convo Ctr and count the many shades of crime scene gold/yellow used in the original construction. I guarantee you'll find no fewer than 18 different shades...walls, floor tile, seats, railings, caution strips, trim, lavatory fixtures, concession booths, dressing rooms, media interview rooms, et al. It is simply unbelievable that an architect could so wildly prescribe such a mismatched color plan for a facility of this type.

I promise you, that same architect didn't prescribe 18+ shades of blue for the Smith Center in Chapel Hell. We have former VC Jane Helm to thank for the mess in HCC.
I get that you're not a fan of Appalachian's gold, I do, but what do you expect to be done?

I'd like to see Old Gold (Metallic Gold--Pantone 871C ) worked back into the uni rotation in major sports--because (despite your youth and life experience) it is an all-time Appalachian tradition and because it remains one of Appalachian's "Primary Colors." Check behind me if you wish... http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

It's so special in Appalachian's history that its use now requires special permission. IMHO, all that would be required would be Doug Gillin's phone call to Chancellor Everts for clearance to use it in throwback unis one game per year--Homecoming for Football and Basketball Alumni Weekend for the men's and women's teams. That would be a nice compromise to please the many, many fans who prefer colors that evoke a classic and rich heritage that has been part of Appalachian from the very beginning--since like 1899. There's a lot more to ASU's history and tradition than 1984 to the present.


...but there's no sense in saying it's crime scene gold or any other insult. I think it fits our branding well and I'm happy with it. I don't think the shade of gold that we use is something we should all get in a tiff about.
No one is in a tiff, exactly. It's just that the change was made at the request of a football coach who stayed on the job fewer than 12 months. Thanks again for all the memories, Mack! Furthermore, it was a change crammed down the throats of students and alumni without any discussion, notification, popular vote or input of any sort. We were basically told by TPTB to "shut up about it 'cause the decision has been made." It was not well-received. There is a significant portion of the living alumni base that has neither accepted the decision nor the way in which it was handled. It will remain a sore spot as long as those folks are around.

As for my "crime scene tape yellow" remark. If the colors match, and they do, then... :evil:
Just to make sure I understand. We can't change the white Block A that has been on the helmets since 1989 (IIRC) because it hurts our brand. However, we should change the yellow, which has been around since 1983, because some fans like it better?
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Re: App State and Nike through 2022, All-Gold Unis

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:55 am

EastHallApp wrote:I admit I had no idea that there were App fans who so disliked our school colors.

Someone else posted this link, but for those who need a refresher, here are our school colors:

http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

App's not going to revert back to the Wake Forest look. It's just not happening. 99% of everything that most people know about Appalachian athletics has happened wearing the current colors, not the ones that only exist in the grainy footage.

Maybe we can ask Nike to work on some throwback uniforms with the old gold that we can wear once to appease the older folks.
I'd love to see throwbacks to the old golf with snow-capped A. I love that logo!
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Re: App State and Nike through 2022, All-Gold Unis

Unread post by 97grad » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:10 pm

T-Dog wrote:All-Gold for Howard. All-Black for Black Saturday.

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =210268546
I really like the all gold (or "gold" if you prefer) unis. I wouldn't give up the traditional black home outfits, but I'm glad these are in the rotation. Liked the ones we did a few years ago also.

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