Jerry Moore will not return

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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by biggie » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:12 am

David Jackson currently on Jack Murphy's internet broadcast, dodging whether Satterfield is the next coach. There will be a coach search, but DJ said Satterfield will have a place at App if he wants it, though maybe not HC.

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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by appst89 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:15 am

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bcoach wrote:With the kind of decisions CC makes he should go back to state where that is normal. Now that he and Peacock have made this bonehead move I hope someone else does the hire.
Peacock and Cobb have done nothing but make this school a better place. Regardless of whether anyone of you would admit it, the sport of college football is a business. Sometimes you have to make business decisions that the public doesn't like.

The reality of this situation is probably very different from the perception. Multiple people have said they heard Mrs. Moor say this would be Jerry's last year back during the Yosef tour. The perception is that it was bungled, and that is mostly because of the cryptic nature of the press releases. I'm sure it was a difficult decision and I'm sure there was a lot more going on than any of us will ever know.

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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by GaSouthern » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:17 am

RankinApp wrote:Damn. Shocking, but not altogether surprising. It will be interesting to hear the details of what precisely went down.

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Unread post by TurfMonkey » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:26 am

"This now clears up why David Jackson lost it last night as he was signing off."

Just a hunch, I think the emotions were for the recent loss
in his family and not Coach Moore.

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Unread post by JMappfan5 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:07 am

Thank you Coach Moore for sharing your life with the APP Family. You are a truly remarkable man. Thanks for taking the time to distribute candy bars to the kids during the Mountaineer Walk. Thanks for the autographs and your patience for photo shots. Thanks for sharing your faith in multiple venues. Also, thanks to Margaret for her unwavering support for her husband, the coaches and our players...she is a loyal, loving individual. I wish you much success and happiness in the "next chapter" of your life!!!

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Unread post by vegattk » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:23 am

ASUTodd wrote:
bcoach wrote:With the kind of decisions CC makes he should go back to state where that is normal. Now that he and Peacock have made this bonehead move I hope someone else does the hire.
Peacock has done nothing but make this school a better place. Regardless of whether anyone of you would admit it, the sport of college football is a business. Sometimes you have to make business decisions that the public doesn't like.
Fixed it for you... Cobb has serviced the University... but with his failures at Basketball and communicating with the fans I can't say he's done anything to make our school a better place.

Heck, if we had even a decent BB program we'd already have an FBS invite in hand...
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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by ASUTodd » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:29 am

Come on Veg.... If you look at all the other sports its hard to say Cobb isn't doing a good job. You pick one sport and run with it. I thought Capel was a good hire but has turned out to be a dud, it happens. I'm sure Cobb knows that this was a pooch screwing. I'm also sure it will be rectified. I do think that Cobb and Peacock together are far greater than one without the other.

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Unread post by vegattk » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:30 am

ASUTodd wrote:I'm sure Cobb knows that this was a pooch screwing.
What has he done about it?
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Unread post by ASUTodd » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:38 am

You do realize that Capel started out doing well? Therefore a rushed decision to fire him was not warranted. He had to give him enough time to develop to see if he could do the job or not. I'm sure that the lackluster coaching that has taken place this last year has not gone unnoticed.

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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by JTApps1 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:01 am

First I have to say thanks to Coach for all the great memories over the last 24 years, and the success our program had under his guidance. He's an outstanding person and I hope our next coach has many of the same qualities. Making a change after having a coach in place for this long is never easy, but at some point it has to be done. We all know there have been some issues in the field house that past few years, and if you talk to people close to the situation you know there has been a lot of tension behind closed doors. Coach Moore was almost let go last year when everything with Chris and McClain came to a head. They offered him a job within the athletic department (it sounds like that is still on the table), but Jerry declined so Cobb agreed to give him 1 more year. As others have said Coach Moore wants no part of transitioning to FBS, and with him being 73 we all knew the end of his career was near.

I just hope we haven't made up our mind on who his replacement will be without looking at all of the candidates that are interested. It looks like Cobb has already stated they want someone with ties to ASU so that eliminates some potential candidates. I have no idea who the candidates are, but some coaches with ties to ASU obviously include Scott Satterfield, Shawn Elliot, Tim Horton, and John Settle among others. This is a HUGE moment for ASU Football, and Peacock and Cobb have to get this right. We can't afford another Capel hire.

Best of luck to Coach and Margaret.

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:07 am

JTApps1 wrote:First I have to say thanks to Coach for all the great memories over the last 24 years, and the success our program had under his guidance. He's an outstanding person and I hope our next coach has many of the same qualities. Making a change after having a coach in place for this long is never easy, but at some point it has to be done. We all know there have been some issues in the field house that past few years, and if you talk to people close to the situation you know there has been a lot of tension behind closed doors. Coach Moore was almost let go last year when everything with Chris and McClain came to a head. They offered him a job within the athletic department (it sounds like that is still on the table), but Jerry declined so Cobb agreed to give him 1 more year. As others have said Coach Moore wants no part of transitioning to FBS, and with him being 73 we all knew the end of his career was near.

I just hope we haven't made up our mind on who his replacement will be without looking at all of the candidates that are interested. It looks like Cobb has already stated they want someone with ties to ASU so that eliminates some potential candidates. I have no idea who the candidates are, but some coaches with ties to ASU obviously include Scott Satterfield, Shawn Elliot, Tim Horton, and John Settle among others. This is a HUGE moment for ASU Football, and Peacock and Cobb have to get this right. We can't afford another Capel hire.

Best of luck to Coach and Margaret.

When did John Settle ever express interest in returning to ASU as a head coach :?: :?: :?: His salaries as assistant excededs what we pay by a great margin.
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Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:08 am

appst89 wrote:
ASUTodd wrote:
bcoach wrote:With the kind of decisions CC makes he should go back to state where that is normal. Now that he and Peacock have made this bonehead move I hope someone else does the hire.
Peacock and Cobb have done nothing but make this school a better place. Regardless of whether anyone of you would admit it, the sport of college football is a business. Sometimes you have to make business decisions that the public doesn't like.

The reality of this situation is probably very different from the perception. Multiple people have said they heard Mrs. Moor say this would be Jerry's last year back during the Yosef tour. The perception is that it was bungled, and that is mostly because of the cryptic nature of the press releases. I'm sure it was a difficult decision and I'm sure there was a lot more going on than any of us will ever know.

You mean cryptic nature of the wording of the releases or the quotes themselves within?
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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by appst89 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:11 am

JCline0429 wrote:When did John Settle ever express interest in returning to ASU as a head coach :?: :?: :?: His salaries as assistant excededs what we pay by a great margin.
When did he not? We don't know who is or isn't interested because Moore has been a fixture in Boone for 24 years.

And, no one said Settle was interested. All JT said was that he was on a list of people who could potentially be interested.

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Unread post by appst89 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:14 am

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appst89 wrote:
ASUTodd wrote:
bcoach wrote:With the kind of decisions CC makes he should go back to state where that is normal. Now that he and Peacock have made this bonehead move I hope someone else does the hire.
Peacock and Cobb have done nothing but make this school a better place. Regardless of whether anyone of you would admit it, the sport of college football is a business. Sometimes you have to make business decisions that the public doesn't like.

The reality of this situation is probably very different from the perception. Multiple people have said they heard Mrs. Moor say this would be Jerry's last year back during the Yosef tour. The perception is that it was bungled, and that is mostly because of the cryptic nature of the press releases. I'm sure it was a difficult decision and I'm sure there was a lot more going on than any of us will ever know.

You mean cryptic nature of the wording of the releases or the quotes themselves within?
The quotes within. Seemed to me Charlie was trying to choose his words very carefully. Some have suggested that is because he was trying to be deferential to Coach Moore during a tough situation and some have suggested other motives. The bottom line is we don't know

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:19 am

Sounds like you are spot on.
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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by JTApps1 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:25 am

appst89 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:When did John Settle ever express interest in returning to ASU as a head coach :?: :?: :?: His salaries as assistant excededs what we pay by a great margin.
When did he not? We don't know who is or isn't interested because Moore has been a fixture in Boone for 24 years.

And, no one said Settle was interested. All JT said was that he was on a list of people who could potentially be interested.
Thank you! Like you said those are just some of the names of guys that have ASU ties that MIGHT be interested.

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Unread post by ASUTodd » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:30 am

JTApps1 wrote:
appst89 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:When did John Settle ever express interest in returning to ASU as a head coach :?: :?: :?: His salaries as assistant excededs what we pay by a great margin.
When did he not? We don't know who is or isn't interested because Moore has been a fixture in Boone for 24 years.

And, no one said Settle was interested. All JT said was that he was on a list of people who could potentially be interested.
Thank you! Like you said those are just some of the names of guys that have ASU ties that MIGHT be interested.
Someone said Buzz Peterson was interested in the Football coaching job.

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ASUTodd wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:
appst89 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:When did John Settle ever express interest in returning to ASU as a head coach :?: :?: :?: His salaries as assistant excededs what we pay by a great margin.
When did he not? We don't know who is or isn't interested because Moore has been a fixture in Boone for 24 years.

And, no one said Settle was interested. All JT said was that he was on a list of people who could potentially be interested.
Thank you! Like you said those are just some of the names of guys that have ASU ties that MIGHT be interested.
Someone said Buzz Peterson was interested in the Football coaching job.

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:35 am

vegattk wrote:
RankinApp wrote:Hopefully this starts a string of up and coming, hungry coaches that come in and continue to push ASU forward before (inevitably) moving on.
Coach after coach after coach does not mean success... Just ask the Stink... Took them quite a while to find one that fits...

All those that were calling for Moore's head these past few years are going to be eating crow if the turnover doesn't work...

(Of course if we're still successful without Coach Moore I'll gladly eat crow)

Will the fans hold his replacement to the same standards as they have Jerry? Would he get heat after 8 win seasons?
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Re: Jerry Moore will not return

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:58 am

This wasn't the fans decision nor did it have anything to do with our win loss record. There is no good way to do this. Ask FSU and Penn St. how they felt after their legends were retired/forced out.
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