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Re: Athletics announced White Out for Old Dominion

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sat May 28, 2016 6:27 pm

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Yosef10 wrote:Hahahaha y'all are funny. At some point I'm hoping y'all realize not everything is about you. It's a freaking white out not the end of the damn world. Grow up, it's a white shirt. The kids want this and at some point you have to acknowledge its not all about you. Some of y'all are pathetic to say the least.
My biggest problem with it is that we are copying other schools ideas (and are very late to join in) instead of doing our own thing. I support our players and want them to have a great experience since they're the ones putting in the work, but that doesn't mean this is a great idea. I'm not one that only wears black at home, but I think the team should stick to black or gold.

The other issue I have is every time we try to do something like this we do it halfway and expect the fans to coordinate everything. The only way these things work is if shirts are provided. I'm not sure we need to spend ~$125,000 on t-shirts ($5* 25,000) to make it work.
The BOD plays the SoCal marching fight song for crying out loud....the cats out of the bag when it comes to copying stuff. If it works who cares?
I will say it is funny that there wasn't this much talk about the grey unis a few years back.

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Unread post by bcoach » Sat May 28, 2016 6:39 pm

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/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:It's crazy to see how much App State has changed since I have graduated in 2009. Some for the better, but most for the worst. ... What was wrong with the way things were? Why do we need to do all of this extra stuff? The tradition is slowly slipping away with all of these attempts to try new stuff. ... I hate all of these changes. The Appalachian State my kids will know will be completely different than the Appalachian State I know. Sad, but likely true.
Welcome to adulthood. You are echoing the time-honored sentiments of generations of people once they are removed from their teens by a certain number of years.

If it makes you feel better, older alumni were saying the same things about "the Appalachian State you knew" when you were in school. And when I was in school in the '90s. etc. etc. etc.
Except, my father who graduated in 86 took me to many games through my childhood, eventually turning me on to App State. Many of the things I experienced in the 90s, were the same when I attended school. When quoting my posts, it's best to quote the entire point I was trying to make....

I knew there would be change when we moved up, however it seems as though too much is trying to be done at once. If you want to implement a new thing, you should slowly roll it out, not throw all these ideas out at once as they have over the past few years.

Acknowledging things ain't what they used to be, but my issue is with the pace at which these changes are happening. Slow and steady is all I am suggesting. It is also a more effective approach.
Too much is trying to be done? ITS A DAMN UNIFORM. Whether you wanna acknowledge it or not it's a big deal to 17/18 year olds. And as a 24 year old it's not a big deal at all. That's my biggest problem with this damn fanbase. A lot of y'all are stuck in old ways and don't relate to young kids and realize what they want. This program and its day to day decisions aren't about y'all as much as y'all wish it was. Just go watch a damn football game and enjoy it. I swear y'all won't care when we win regardless if we're wearing black or white. It's a minute change.
I'll tell you what cracks me up is a todays 24 year old telling other people it ain'y all about you. Thats what cracks me up. This fan base that you have such a big problem with is paying the bills so they can wear what ever they want. Lots of them are thinking that It aint all about you(:

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Re: Athletics announced White Out for Old Dominion

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Sat May 28, 2016 8:33 pm

bcoach wrote:
Yosef10 wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:It's crazy to see how much App State has changed since I have graduated in 2009. Some for the better, but most for the worst. ... What was wrong with the way things were? Why do we need to do all of this extra stuff? The tradition is slowly slipping away with all of these attempts to try new stuff. ... I hate all of these changes. The Appalachian State my kids will know will be completely different than the Appalachian State I know. Sad, but likely true.
Welcome to adulthood. You are echoing the time-honored sentiments of generations of people once they are removed from their teens by a certain number of years.

If it makes you feel better, older alumni were saying the same things about "the Appalachian State you knew" when you were in school. And when I was in school in the '90s. etc. etc. etc.
Except, my father who graduated in 86 took me to many games through my childhood, eventually turning me on to App State. Many of the things I experienced in the 90s, were the same when I attended school. When quoting my posts, it's best to quote the entire point I was trying to make....

I knew there would be change when we moved up, however it seems as though too much is trying to be done at once. If you want to implement a new thing, you should slowly roll it out, not throw all these ideas out at once as they have over the past few years.

Acknowledging things ain't what they used to be, but my issue is with the pace at which these changes are happening. Slow and steady is all I am suggesting. It is also a more effective approach.
Too much is trying to be done? ITS A DAMN UNIFORM. Whether you wanna acknowledge it or not it's a big deal to 17/18 year olds. And as a 24 year old it's not a big deal at all. That's my biggest problem with this damn fanbase. A lot of y'all are stuck in old ways and don't relate to young kids and realize what they want. This program and its day to day decisions aren't about y'all as much as y'all wish it was. Just go watch a damn football game and enjoy it. I swear y'all won't care when we win regardless if we're wearing black or white. It's a minute change.
I'll tell you what cracks me up is a todays 24 year old telling other people it ain'y all about you. Thats what cracks me up. This fan base that you have such a big problem with is paying the bills so they can wear what ever they want. Lots of them are thinking that It aint all about you(:
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Unread post by APPdiesel » Sat May 28, 2016 11:45 pm

JTApps1 wrote: I'm not sure we need to spend ~$125,000 on t-shirts.
Something like this would need to be sponsored. It's not something we'd pay for out of athletic budget. If we can't find a sponsor...then don't do it. Correction...just don't do it regardless.

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Unread post by asu66 » Sun May 29, 2016 2:55 am

This is bad, bad karma, folks! Nothing good will come of this silly uprising.

Where has all this righteous indignation been over all the years that North Carolina's Band of Distinction has played "The Tennessee Waltz" and "Rocky Top" after every home FB game? :roll:
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Unread post by Snaggy » Sun May 29, 2016 6:22 am

Supposedly a lot of the players want to wear white and want the fans' support... but it just feels sacrilegious to me.

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun May 29, 2016 9:40 am

asu66 wrote:This is bad, bad karma, folks! Nothing good will come of this silly uprising.

Where has all this righteous indignation been over all the years that North Carolina's Band of Distinction has played "The Tennessee Waltz" and "Rocky Top" after every home FB game? :roll:
And I buried my comment in anther post but the latest is the SoCal fight song/marching song. No one says anything about that either!!

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Unread post by MJ1988 » Sun May 29, 2016 12:24 pm

Well I've said it before and I'll say it again. What the hell does Sean Connery have to do with ASU? Since we're starting new traditions lets get rid of him too

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asu66 wrote:This is bad, bad karma, folks! Nothing good will come of this silly uprising.

Where has all this righteous indignation been over all the years that North Carolina's Band of Distinction has played "The Tennessee Waltz" and "Rocky Top" after every home FB game? :roll:
And I buried my comment in anther post but the latest is the SoCal fight song/marching song. No one says anything about that either!!
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Unread post by APPdiesel » Sun May 29, 2016 1:17 pm

MJ1988 wrote:What the hell does Sean Connery have to do with ASU? Since we're starting new traditions lets get rid of him too
The fact that it's been played every pregame for the last 10 years...that's what. It started as a silly choice and it stuck. You don't "create" traditions. They happen organically over time.

It's not the cleanest piece of audio...I wish we could contact the production company and get the dry (voice only) audio to enhance the voice part with. I think it sounds cool. Could be a little clearer.

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Unread post by APP72 » Mon May 30, 2016 2:10 am

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March Grandioso is the song that I think you are talking about. It is not Southern Cal's fight song. That song is played all over the country. Marching bands at Texas, Texas Tech, Nebraska, and other universities play that song at football games. I really like the song and fans all around me like it too! To me, it is a great song to be played at football games and most people associate that song with COLLEGE FOOTBALL! I never heard it played at any SOCON games and I haven't heard it it at any Sun Belt schools. I have contacted the band director at APP for several years and informed him how much the fans and I like it and I requested that we continue playing MARCH GRANDIOSO! I kind of think it is becoming a part of our tradition! I guess you can't please all of our fans all the time! It sure pumps me up and gets me ready for APP STATE FOOTBALL!
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MJ1988 wrote:What the hell does Sean Connery have to do with ASU? Since we're starting new traditions lets get rid of him too
The fact that it's been played every pregame for the last 10 years...that's what. It started as a silly choice and it stuck. You don't "create" traditions. They happen organically over time.

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Unread post by MJ1988 » Mon May 30, 2016 9:43 am

I love the "welcome to the rock". I just want people associated with ASU to do the line. Past players, coaches , well know alums. I know, I know, the Eric Church wasn't well received but I still think done right it could work well. First I think it needs to be done live. The video leading up to the actual line would introduce the person by splashing images in with the usual intro video. Then you would get a live shot of the person doing the line. My first choice would go like this. It would be coach Moore, you would sneak him into the center of the west side student section, coach Moore loved the student fans. When it's time to deliver the line an image of coach surrounded by the student would flash on the screen and he delivers the line. It's important that the line be delivered in the same cadence as the Connery bit. In my opinion that's what caused the Church bit to get rejected. The rhythm of the whole think has to stay the same you just have different folks deliver the line. My second choice would be Peacock. I would put him in a black turtle neck and hat just like Connery and have him turn and deliver the line in the exact same way. That would be a great transition from the Connery bit. Just saying, it needs to be App. people delivering the line.

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MJ1988 wrote:I love the "welcome to the rock". I just want people associated with ASU to do the line. Past players, coaches , well know alums. I know, I know, the Eric Church wasn't well received but I still think done right it could work well. First I think it needs to be done live. The video leading up to the actual line would introduce the person by splashing images in with the usual intro video. Then you would get a live shot of the person doing the line. My first choice would go like this. It would be coach Moore, you would sneak him into the center of the west side student section, coach Moore loved the student fans. When it's time to deliver the line an image of coach surrounded by the student would flash on the screen and he delivers the line. It's important that the line be delivered in the same cadence as the Connery bit. In my opinion that's what caused the Church bit to get rejected. The rhythm of the whole think has to stay the same you just have different folks deliver the line. My second choice would be Peacock. I would put him in a black turtle neck and hat just like Connery and have him turn and deliver the line in the exact same way. That would be a great transition from the Connery bit. Just saying, it needs to be App. people delivering the line.
My point though, and I guess it's just a differing of opinions...is that nobody can deliver that line with the same bravado as Sean Connery. I mean...it's James Freaking Bond (literally and figuratively, because if you remember the insinuation in that movie is his character is a captured James Bond we've held for years without trial) unleashing our players onto the field. It doesn't get much cooler than that. Why try to force an imitation that has been rejected by fans before?

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Unread post by moonshine » Mon May 30, 2016 11:30 am

While copying the idea, marketing missed an opportunity to make it our own.

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Unread post by NewApp » Mon May 30, 2016 1:27 pm

asu66 wrote:This is bad, bad karma, folks! Nothing good will come of this silly uprising.

Where has all this righteous indignation been over all the years that North Carolina's Band of Distinction has played "The Tennessee Waltz" and "Rocky Top" after every home FB game? :roll:
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Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon May 30, 2016 5:39 pm

APP72 wrote:Rekdiver,
March Grandioso is the song that I think you are talking about. It is not Southern Cal's fight song. That song is played all over the country. Marching bands at Texas, Texas Tech, Nebraska, and other universities play that song at football games. I really like the song and fans all around me like it too! To me, it is a great song to be played at football games and most people associate that song with COLLEGE FOOTBALL! I never heard it played at any SOCON games and I haven't heard it it at any Sun Belt schools. I have contacted the band director at APP for several years and informed him how much the fans and I like it and I requested that we continue playing MARCH GRANDIOSO! I kind of think it is becoming a part of our tradition! I guess you can't please all of our fans all the time! It sure pumps me up and gets me ready for APP STATE FOOTBALL!
I stand corrected but it is a staple of Texas, the fans even spell Texas out during the song. You may be correct but I don't associate this song with App. My point is/was we copy lots of stuff so a whiteout should be no big deal.

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MJ1988 wrote:I love the "welcome to the rock". I just want people associated with ASU to do the line. Past players, coaches , well know alums. I know, I know, the Eric Church wasn't well received but I still think done right it could work well. First I think it needs to be done live. The video leading up to the actual line would introduce the person by splashing images in with the usual intro video. Then you would get a live shot of the person doing the line. My first choice would go like this. It would be coach Moore, you would sneak him into the center of the west side student section, coach Moore loved the student fans. When it's time to deliver the line an image of coach surrounded by the student would flash on the screen and he delivers the line. It's important that the line be delivered in the same cadence as the Connery bit. In my opinion that's what caused the Church bit to get rejected. The rhythm of the whole think has to stay the same you just have different folks deliver the line. My second choice would be Peacock. I would put him in a black turtle neck and hat just like Connery and have him turn and deliver the line in the exact same way. That would be a great transition from the Connery bit. Just saying, it needs to be App. people delivering the line.
My point though, and I guess it's just a differing of opinions...is that nobody can deliver that line with the same bravado as Sean Connery. I mean...it's James Freaking Bond (literally and figuratively, because if you remember the insinuation in that movie is his character is a captured James Bond we've held for years without trial) unleashing our players onto the field. It doesn't get much cooler than that. Why try to force an imitation that has been rejected by fans before?

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APPdiesel wrote:
MJ1988 wrote:I love the "welcome to the rock". I just want people associated with ASU to do the line. Past players, coaches , well know alums. I know, I know, the Eric Church wasn't well received but I still think done right it could work well. First I think it needs to be done live. The video leading up to the actual line would introduce the person by splashing images in with the usual intro video. Then you would get a live shot of the person doing the line. My first choice would go like this. It would be coach Moore, you would sneak him into the center of the west side student section, coach Moore loved the student fans. When it's time to deliver the line an image of coach surrounded by the student would flash on the screen and he delivers the line. It's important that the line be delivered in the same cadence as the Connery bit. In my opinion that's what caused the Church bit to get rejected. The rhythm of the whole think has to stay the same you just have different folks deliver the line. My second choice would be Peacock. I would put him in a black turtle neck and hat just like Connery and have him turn and deliver the line in the exact same way. That would be a great transition from the Connery bit. Just saying, it needs to be App. people delivering the line.
My point though, and I guess it's just a differing of opinions...is that nobody can deliver that line with the same bravado as Sean Connery. I mean...it's James Freaking Bond (literally and figuratively, because if you remember the insinuation in that movie is his character is a captured James Bond we've held for years without trial) unleashing our players onto the field. It doesn't get much cooler than that. Why try to force an imitation that has been rejected by fans before?

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon May 30, 2016 9:12 pm

MJ1988 wrote:
APPdiesel wrote:
MJ1988 wrote:I love the "welcome to the rock". I just want people associated with ASU to do the line. Past players, coaches , well know alums. I know, I know, the Eric Church wasn't well received but I still think done right it could work well. First I think it needs to be done live. The video leading up to the actual line would introduce the person by splashing images in with the usual intro video. Then you would get a live shot of the person doing the line. My first choice would go like this. It would be coach Moore, you would sneak him into the center of the west side student section, coach Moore loved the student fans. When it's time to deliver the line an image of coach surrounded by the student would flash on the screen and he delivers the line. It's important that the line be delivered in the same cadence as the Connery bit. In my opinion that's what caused the Church bit to get rejected. The rhythm of the whole think has to stay the same you just have different folks deliver the line. My second choice would be Peacock. I would put him in a black turtle neck and hat just like Connery and have him turn and deliver the line in the exact same way. That would be a great transition from the Connery bit. Just saying, it needs to be App. people delivering the line.
My point though, and I guess it's just a differing of opinions...is that nobody can deliver that line with the same bravado as Sean Connery. I mean...it's James Freaking Bond (literally and figuratively, because if you remember the insinuation in that movie is his character is a captured James Bond we've held for years without trial) unleashing our players onto the field. It doesn't get much cooler than that. Why try to force an imitation that has been rejected by fans before?

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I was with 6 students last year before a game and I asked, how would you guys feel about getting rid of Sean Connery? They all looked at me and asked, "who". The current crop of students don't even know who he is.
Were these the 6 students that had never been to a game?

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