Jerry Moore will not return

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:17 pm

Honest question, should folks outside the program have known he was leaving?

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:21 pm

Rekdiver wrote:Is it possible that Peacock and Cobb got tired of Jerry dictating to them especially after last year?

Specifically, what did Moore ever dictate to his two superiors and who is the source?

PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY · Unread post by **PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:21 pm

asutrnr81 wrote:In JULY good freind of mine who organizes the NC Sports Hall of Fame induction called and TOLD me to mark the calendar date of January 11th 2013. JM would be inducted BE-FREAKING-CAUSE "it was his last year." He confirmed the induction THROUGH JM.

Somehow this information was known BY JM this summer and then this......!

This is not a conspiracy and IF JM asked after the season for another year and the ASU Admin and Athletics had a plan in place for JM to bow out gracefully and JM now says he wants NO controversy...Let's follow JM wishes.

Love you Coach! Enjoyed the ride! Let's name something after the winningest coach in ASU history and
...MOVE ON!
you got chicken and dumplings in your ears! or stir fry...or whole pig...
Go APPS!

asumike83 · Unread post by **asumike83** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:25 pm

Excellent post, rep point.

I could not agree more and I truly hope all the in-fighting will calm down a bit once we have hired a new coach and know what conference we will be playing in long-term. What's done is done and all the bickering is tiresome.

As for anyone who threatens to pull their Yosef Club funding over how the situation was handled, I just hope they consider who that would REALLY hurt. It is not Charlie Cobb.

Unread post by **appst89** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:25 pm

JCline0429 wrote:Good post but facts will be ignored. Rep point for your effort in setting things straight.

I believe I already addressed the part meant for me. I posted an observation based on a salary scale I saw. If it was incorrect then I apologize. Care to show me where I ignored any facts?

moehler · Unread post by **moehler** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:28 pm

agree 100% but someone will keep bring this up until we find out if we are moving up in a couple of weeks. If we move up, this will be forgotten quickly, if we are left behind, Moore supporters are going to raise hell saying coach should have never been "let go", becouse we are still in the FCS, and he still should have been given atleast 1 more year.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:28 pm

appst89 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:Good post but facts will be ignored. Rep point for your effort in setting things straight.
I believe I already addressed the part meant for me. I posted an observation based on a salary scale I saw. If it was incorrect then I apologize. Care to show me where I ignored any facts?

If you mean several weeks ago, I definitely remember and it cleared up a lot of distortions, but I don't recall anyone making an insane amount as some referenced..not even in comparison to other staff members.

FWIW, I wasn't addressing your comment, just posts in general from members on here.

PhillyApp1 · Unread post by **PhillyApp1** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:29 pm

PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:
vegattk wrote:
Onion... Did you want Coach Moore to be fired?
I wanted him to retire. I wanted him to become what Erk Russel was to GSU. Unfortunately it seems he wants to dismantle the program before he leaves.
where in his quote did he say he wanted to dismantle the program...there possibly was an agreement...ok...lets say thats the case. then you have this ready to put out to media when time is ready. lets say coach asked but was refused one more year...ok thats possible but you would have hoped that the powers that be had in place a plan b for this problem. only thing is, their plan b stunk to high heaven and it has caused us to question whats going on. coach didn't cause the dissension, the timing, lack of clarity between goasu release and cc's actual comments and then what coach is quoted as saying. dismantle the program??? the one he and others built up? the one that if not for him and others, there would be no fbs discussions??? i'm an app fan but for the love of yosef...i'm not gonna just say...coach now bad and powers from up above always good and true.

Go back to work...your thoughts are better in the bushes !!

Move on PBR....cut the next bush...plant the NEW tree , show some NEW love for APP's new coach and NEW conference !!

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:32 pm

HappyHippie wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:In JULY good freind of mine who organizes the NC Sports Hall of Fame induction called and TOLD me to mark the calendar date of January 11th 2013. JM would be inducted BE-FREAKING-CAUSE "it was his last year." He confirmed the induction THROUGH JM.

Somehow this information was known BY JM this summer and then this......!

This is not a conspiracy and IF JM asked after the season for another year and the ASU Admin and Athletics had a plan in place for JM to bow out gracefully and JM now says he wants NO controversy...Let's follow JM wishes.

Love you Coach! Enjoyed the ride! Let's name something after the winningest coach in ASU history and
...MOVE ON!

Go APPS!
Coach Moore is already a member of NC Sports Hall of Fame - 2009

Hmmm.

firemoose · Unread post by **firemoose** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:35 pm

moehler wrote:agree 100% but someone will keep bring this up until we find out if we are moving up in a couple of weeks. If we move up, this will be forgotten quickly, if we are left behind, Moore supporters are going to raise hell saying coach should have never been "let go", becouse we are still in the FCS, and he still should have been given atleast 1 more year.

Yeah, I understand all that and also the media might jump on this too but I guess I was trying to say that most of those things we have no control over and I am just trying to move forward the best I can. Only each person can choose that path for themselves. Hopefully most of will choose to do the same.

asutrnr81 · Unread post by **asutrnr81** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:35 pm

HappyHippie wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:In JULY good freind of mine who organizes the NC Sports Hall of Fame induction called and TOLD me to mark the calendar date of January 11th 2013. JM would be inducted BE-FREAKING-CAUSE "it was his last year." He confirmed the induction THROUGH JM.

Somehow this information was known BY JM this summer and then this......!

This is not a conspiracy and IF JM asked after the season for another year and the ASU Admin and Athletics had a plan in place for JM to bow out gracefully and JM now says he wants NO controversy...Let's follow JM wishes.

Love you Coach! Enjoyed the ride! Let's name something after the winningest coach in ASU history and
...MOVE ON!

Go APPS!
Just texted Wes to find out the OFFICIAL name of the award....back later!

Coach Moore is already a member of NC Sports Hall of Fame - 2009

GreatAppSt · Unread post by **GreatAppSt** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:43 pm

WataugaMan wrote:"I know I never told him this would be my last season,” Moore said.

However, this does not mean CC did not inform him that it would be.

"I have no recollection of ever being told that" Ronald Reagan

RockCampAPP · Unread post by **RockCampAPP** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:51 pm

I am a "One Moore Season" guy. However, I also realize time moves on and as per usual heals. To continue to fight for (what was once and will never again be) can damage the program. It is after all about the kids and the program. It is recruiting season. I am on board with moving on and will only be supportive of the the new coach. (YOUR POST IS VALID).

Similar to the love and support shown for another football legend (Brett Farve) who shocked the sporting world when he decided to return instead of retire, the people making decisions made the right call for the "Program" and alas Aaron Rodgers. When the next kickoff occurs APP FANS WILL BE APP FANS. HALF WILL YELL APP THE OTHER HALF STATE AND ALL WILL BE WELL IN THE BLACK AND GOLD NATION.

unknown · Unread post by **unknown** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:57 pm

RockCampAPP wrote:I am a "One Moore Season" guy. However, I also realize time moves on and as per usual heals. To continue to fight for (what was once and will never again be) can damage the program. It is after all about the kids and the program. It is recruiting season. I am on board with moving on and will only be supportive of the the new coach. (YOUR POST IS VALID).

Similar to the love and support shown for another football legend (Brett Farve) who shocked the sporting world when he decided to return instead of retire, the people making decisions made the right call for the "Program" and alas Aaron Rodgers. When the next kickoff occurs APP FANS WILL BE APP FANS. HALF WILL YELL APP THE OTHER HALF STATE AND ALL WILL BE WELL IN THE BLACK AND GOLD NATION.

good post,,and I will add, if App fans don't stop with all this nonsense, no good coach is going to want to come here and jump in the middle of this mess

GreatAppSt · Unread post by **GreatAppSt** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:59 pm

Appsolutely wrote: Obviously, there was no AGREEMENT between the two that this would be Moore's last year or somebody is being inaccurate about what really transpired at that meeting.

Or simply somebody doesn't accurately recollect about what really transpired at that meeting.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:04 pm

unknown wrote:
RockCampAPP wrote:I am a "One Moore Season" guy. However, I also realize time moves on and as per usual heals. To continue to fight for (what was once and will never again be) can damage the program. It is after all about the kids and the program. It is recruiting season. I am on board with moving on and will only be supportive of the the new coach. (YOUR POST IS VALID).

Similar to the love and support shown for another football legend (Brett Farve) who shocked the sporting world when he decided to return instead of retire, the people making decisions made the right call for the "Program" and alas Aaron Rodgers. When the next kickoff occurs APP FANS WILL BE APP FANS. HALF WILL YELL APP THE OTHER HALF STATE AND ALL WILL BE WELL IN THE BLACK AND GOLD NATION.
If prospective coaches are getting their information from posts on this board, then heaven help them.

good post,,and I will add, if App fans don't stop with all this nonsense, no good coach is going to want to come here and jump in the middle of this mess

Unread post by **appst89** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:05 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
appst89 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:
Appersrule wrote:Well I lost all respect for Peacock and Cobb for trying to paint a different picture than the real story and tried to hide between a poorly worded press release.
They were trying to save Jerry Moores reputation, instead of firing him publicly for losing control of the program, paying his son an insane amount of money, his sons own antics, and other failures on and off the field, such as not recruiting for 2 years, and his staff having arguments and not being able to even get a play called to the QB in the middle of the game.

Perhaps they should just list all of the reasons, and let JMs reputation absorb the impact, instead of the entire program, because these peeons that dont even follow App football are creating a stir without even knowing whats been going on.

His son should have been let go, but as to the salary, someone on here posted the staff's salaries and his wasn't out of line with the rest based on experience.
His son was the second highest paid coach on the staff, and he rose to that level very quickly, passing some other folks along the way.

Glenn: His son wasn't the second-highest paid coach on the staff and I'm surprised you would perpetuate that myth. Jones and Speir had significantly higher salaries. ASU's football salaries were/are largely based on length of service. That's where Chris Moore had an edge over guys like Elder, Holt and Glenn. Certainly Chris Moore's firing was justified, but to suggest Jerry Moore lined his son's pockets is wrong. By the way, all salaries and salary increases are approved by the athletic director.

I don't throw things around without checking them. I had seen a list that showed what I said. Your accusation bothered me though, so I went back and dug out the information. From the 2011 N.C. University salary database, the only assistant coach with a higher salary than C. Moore was D. Jones. Speir had the same salary as Moore. So he was the second highest paid coach on the staff. No myths here.

unknown · Unread post by **unknown** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:08 pm

well, two of the most probable coaches have strong ties to App and are very much aware of what's going on with this in Boone. Don't fool yourself

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:09 pm

Was it an insane amount Speir and Moore were making?

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:11 pm

unknown wrote:well, two of the most probable coaches have strong ties to App and are very much aware of what's going on with this in Boone. Don't fool yourself

So they are getting their information from fans posting on this board

Who is fooling whom?

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