Miami vs. ASU Color Guard

[Go Canes]

vegattk,how exactly did you come into possession of this note? I believe there is possibly liable in this case

I will also mention that I CAN NOT see any kind of movement from the person in question from the vantage point of the press box video. None. Nada. I certainly hope this isn't a case of wild exaggeration. We have all seen how these types of things can get legs of their own.
IF this didn't happen there needs to be an apology from the color guard member in question.

And you!

Not going to happen.

I simply posted the information to find further proof/evidence. Never did I say that this actually happened.

vegattk, Well, you certainly created a fire storm when you took it upon yourself to post it on the message board. I feel you did it for no other reason than to "incite". Why didn't you leave it up to the person who allegedly was accosted to handle? Why did you post on a message board vs. contacting AppState administration and football AD which should have been done. As a Miami fan, I am mad as hell over this accusation and do plan to write your AD and president. And yes, we want a written apology and further would like to see you banned from posting on this board. And, next time, the color guard should get the hell out of the way. This event was about a football game, not color guard or band.

daytonacane, I gotta disagree with you on this one. This was a story already, no matter what. I would rather a fan that says "IF this happened" be the one to post it than to have one of the knee -jerk thug U haters post their spew of hate without discussion. Look at it this way: We are seeing the App State side of things, and even THEIR fans are saying nothing happened. Would we be reading that if he hadn't posted at all?

[Go Canes]

If no proof comes out, the color guard member should be released from the squad. This stuff is too serious to make false claims about.

It is starting to get that Ryan Lochte smell about it.
1. Accuse someone who is not able to defend themselves (fake brazilian robbers, anonymous Miami Hurricanes players)
2. Puff yourself out to be a hero (I had a gun in my face and said "Whatever", I am doing this so that no color guard person is harmed ever again)
3. Talk about how your position was "exaggerated" when confronted with contrary evidence.
4. Claim that due to outside circumstances, you don't want to press charges.

She might just be defending a friend who lied to her, but in continuing to defend the lie, she is culpable and worthy of ridicule as well.

[Go Canes]

And I'm sure App made Miami aware that the band was going to be further back due to the skydivers. You would think that the class act Miami is would see this and you know maybe try to avoid them a little. I'm not saying that this incident happened because I haven't seen any pictures of anyone getting hit, but Miami is at fault also for not even trying to avoid the band. The truth will come out and the right person will get punished.

Umm, they DID try to avoid the band. And they were successful. But if you are running forward and you have another player to the right and another behind you and a band member in front of you, then you have four choices.
1. Shift left, hitting your teammate. Ukappfan then laughs at how clumsy Miami players are.
2. Stop, having your teammate hit you. Ukappfan then laughs at how clumsy Miami players are.
3. Go straight, crashing into the band member like the Stanford Cal game. Ukappfan then whines at how "thuggish" Miami players are.
or
4. Veer a bit to the right, using the WIDE OPEN row between band members, to get to the endzone and pray. Ukappfan then blames Miami players based on the claim "I'm SURE App made Miami aware that the band was going to be further back due to the skydivers".

Guess what, even if I was told they would be "a bit" further back, I would not have expected they would be LINED UP on OUR sideline, while giving the ASU players all the way to the hashmark on their side.

I PROMISE you, when you come down to Miami, we will be giving your team PLENTY of room to come in, and our color guard girls will not get "blindsided", "surrounded", "groped", or any other claim that the video doesn't show, but we will also not attack your city and school if a couple of your players veer off to avoid a collision.

[Go Canes]

And I'm sure App made Miami aware that the band was going to be further back due to the skydivers. You would think that the class act Miami is would see this and you know maybe try to avoid them a little. I'm not saying that this incident happened because I haven't seen any pictures of anyone getting hit, but Miami is at fault also for not even trying to avoid the band. The truth will come out and the right person will get punished.

What did you expect Miami to do? There was no room at all for them. It was either dodge band members, or dodge the people on the sideline/benches/etc. I know App St. had to leave room for the parachuters to land, but if you are going to do that, the colorguard shouldn't have been on the field at all in order to leave Miami enough room to enter the field. Another option would have been to hold Miami's entrance off until the App St. band got out of the way. Any way you want to slice it, App St. is at fault for any possible "incidental" contact between UM players and the App St. Band. As for the allegations of groping and lewd comments, there still isn't a shred of evidence that it occurred. It is time for App St. to publicly apologize.

Not only that, but I don't see any parachuters in the video. That means that once they landed, and were gone for a while, the band could have taken five to ten steps toward the ASU sideline, rather than wait to see if a collision could occur that they could blame on Miami. It smells like a setup.

[Go Canes]

Okay, until new data shows up, I will consider this closed, with her proven wrong by video. See you in 2021.

[dubs21]

We get made fun of for having a track, well, the track would be a great place for Miami or any other team to run out on. If its obvious there are people on the field. Its not like they couldn't have run to the left. Just a thought. And i am very leery of anything happening the way the accuser has stated.

[Appftw]

We get made fun of for having a track, well, the track would be a great place for Miami or any other team to run out on. If its obvious there are people on the field. Its not like they couldn't have run to the left. Just a thought. And i am very leery of anything happening the way the accuser has stated.

EXACTLY. Miami fans keep saying they had nowhere else to go but there's clearly 10 yards of open real estate due to the track being RIGHT THERE. I'm not sure about these accusations either way and will withhold judgment until the facts are out, but saying they had no room to go anywhere else is completely incorrect.

[CF34]

We get made fun of for having a track, well, the track would be a great place for Miami or any other team to run out on. If its obvious there are people on the field. Its not like they couldn't have run to the left. Just a thought. And i am very leery of anything happening the way the accuser has stated.

EXACTLY. Miami fans keep saying they had nowhere else to go but there's clearly 10 yards of open real estate due to the track being RIGHT THERE. I'm not sure about these accusations either way and will withhold judgment until the facts are out, but saying they had no room to go anywhere else is completely incorrect.

Look at the overhead view of miami's entrance. there were black shirts (people from App St.) blocking the path/directing the UM players onto the field and away from the track. There was also plenty of equipment and cables on the track. That wasn't a safe place to enter the field. You are grasping at straws to find some way to blame UM for this situation.

[NCCane]

(BASED ON WHAT VIDEOS WE HAVE ALL SEEN) , I think it's safe to say that a few Canes players ran through the band. However, there was no indication of groping or anyone being inappropriately touched.

Being a father of two girls, if one of my girls comes to me and tells me they were 'groped' I would go to the end of the earth to make sure those responsible are dealt with. It just seems fishy to me that someone would be 'groped' and 'touched' inappropriately but would just want this to end simply with an apology letter.

[Go Canes]

We get made fun of for having a track, well, the track would be a great place for Miami or any other team to run out on. If its obvious there are people on the field. Its not like they couldn't have run to the left. Just a thought. And i am very leery of anything happening the way the accuser has stated.

EXACTLY. Miami fans keep saying they had nowhere else to go but there's clearly 10 yards of open real estate due to the track being RIGHT THERE. I'm not sure about these accusations either way and will withhold judgment until the facts are out, but saying they had no room to go anywhere else is completely incorrect.

What? There has NEVER been a football game where one team gets to run out on the field, but the other, without warning, is told to run past the opposing fans, where they can be booed, battered, spit on, etc. Did you see your team run along the sideline when you went to Tennessee? No. The fact that it has happened before, even by the color guard accuser's own comments, shows that the blame is not with UM, but with the band and color guard that have not WARNED any of their visitors that they will be forced to run a guantlet past the ASU fans.

PLEASE show me the Old Dominion pregame, and how they ran onto the track to avoid your band blockade.
PLEASE show me the Tennessee pregame, where the Tennessee band blocked your players.

Even though i have said please, I bet you won't deliver.

But take a look at the amount of space you gave the Chattanooga Mocs AND let them enter first.

Georgia Southern last year, also forced to deal with your band right on the sideline, but they didn't use the track either.

Tennessee gets the band OUT OF YOUR WAY before your entrance.

The TV feed showing the Tennessee players four accross and ready to storm the field, the way football players ALWAYS do.

Oh look, the 9/5/15 opponent came running out on the field right after the Mountaineers, but didn't have to use the track.

The advantage of video is that it can be used to prove wrong those claims that Miami was at fault in this. You had a blockade worse than for any of your other opponents, your Band Director prepared his members for the game by calling all of Miami scum, and then even after ten minutes from the time that the parachutes landed, KEPT them on the Miami sideline, giving Miami players nowhere to run without either collision or infiltration. Then add to that this lie that got all the way to ESPN without proof, so that even the announcement of our throwback uniforms was seen as an attempt of a team hiding a sexual assault to change the subject, and you can see why folks are doubting that this band manager is competent.

[moonshine]

Good gracious, the App State color guard has caused more damage to the U than the Mountaineer football team. If posters from both sides can continue repeating the same BS for 25 more pages, we can match CI!

Good luck suing a broke ass 20 year old college student for: emotional distress, pain and suffering, mental anguish and defamation! I'm sure there's an ambulance chaser salivating somewhere.

[Rekdiver]

Just took a peek at this..........GoCanes you need to get a life and quit worrying about this. Let the girl and the Administrations handle this and we can talk about it later. Good Grief!