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Re: Taylor Lamb
People complain because TL doesn't have the flashy stats like Toldeo's Woodside does. which one won the game?appfanjj wrote:A lot of people were unhappy with this young man playing QB for us earlier this season? Anybody want to complain now? He's a winner and the Camellia Bowl MVP. And we are fortunate enough to have him back for another year. Count your blessings people.
as its already been said in this thread: Winners Win
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Re: Taylor Lamb
At least 5 drops make it difficult to move through the air. His stat line, at a minimum, should read 19-32 for 160 yards instead of 14-32 for 119. I don't think anyone would argue his overall arm strength but the coaches call a game that allows him to succeed. The drops were on the WRs and there's nothing TL could've done better to make those plays more successful.ah59396 wrote:Taylor played a great game and I'm proud of his performance. He's gritty and great at scrambling. That said, I still stand by my prior statement that we have trouble moving the ball through the air due primarily to his weak arm. And if we want to contend with the big boys, we need a passing attack. Doesn't diminish his accomplishments tonight, but his performance also doesn't change his passing deficiencies. We cannot have a one dimensional offense.
Lamb is a MVP and a winner!
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I agree with those who say this was Lambs best performance of the year maybe career. Very accurate throwing (drops hurt the numbers) and got rid of the ball to avoid the sack or pick when he needed to. Very good decisions on running the ball. MVP for sure. Cox put 143 yards in his final game as a Mountaineer to ice the cake. Very good game and another good time in Montgomery.
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I agree that TL struggles with the deep ball and we'll need that aspect in the future if the program is to take the next step. But for tonight, the struggle was the WRs. The one disappointment of the year that I can find is that the WRs didn't step up this year from the loss of last years group. Hopefully since most are coming back with TL next year they can gain some more comradery.TheMackAttack wrote:ah59396 wrote:Taylor played a great game and I'm proud of his performance. He's gritty and great at scrambling. That said, I still stand by my prior statement that we have trouble moving the ball through the air due primarily to his weak arm. And if we want to contend with the big boys, we need a passing attack. Doesn't diminish his accomplishments tonight, but his performance also doesn't change his passing deficiencies. We cannot have a one dimensional offense.
We don't need a deep passing attack though. We need an intermediate one and it was there tonight but there were so many drops. Capel looked bad. Hopkins, Lewis, Jones, and Absher all dropped at least one. Lamb didn't regress as a QB this year though the stats would have you believe that. The receivers struggled to make the easy catches at times, much less the difficult ones.
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MVP! Did you see some of the hits that he took yesterday? He is one tough QB. TL showed some good moves on the run also. Too many dropped balls or his passing stats would be even better. Well deserved award. I am glad he has another year left to lead the team. GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!
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All the "experts" talked about before the game was Woodside and his great passing numbers - He was good, I am not disputing that - however how many yards did he have rushing? how many moves did he make to extend plays? - My point here is - Some of you guys think there are "perfect" QBs out there that we must get??? - If a kid has the football knowledge of a coaches son like Taylor, is also a great runner, makes the right decision most every time, can escape trouble and make plays, has a rocket arm but still throws a catchable short and intermediate pass, can pick up the 1st down himself if needed and ALSO WINS --- Those high school QBs are going to Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, etc. --- Get real !!! - we have a GREAT QB now because HE WINS !!!
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Re: Taylor Lamb
Last night was what we need from Lamb to win, make the throws he can, run when given the opportunity, and most importantly make good decisions. He made the right read on runs every time and nothing demonstrates his football IQ better than the 20 yard pass to Meadors in which he knew he'd get a PI call at worst.
Lamb came out to the Aviator Bar after the game and it was great getting to congratulate his personally. Also got to talk to Cox and others, our guys are great players, but even better people. So professional and humble, so proud of those guys representing our university.
Lamb came out to the Aviator Bar after the game and it was great getting to congratulate his personally. Also got to talk to Cox and others, our guys are great players, but even better people. So professional and humble, so proud of those guys representing our university.
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CoachRob wrote:I agree that TL struggles with the deep ball and we'll need that aspect in the future if the program is to take the next step. But for tonight, the struggle was the WRs. The one disappointment of the year that I can find is that the WRs didn't step up this year from the loss of last years group. Hopefully since most are coming back with TL next year they can gain some more comradery.TheMackAttack wrote:ah59396 wrote:Taylor played a great game and I'm proud of his performance. He's gritty and great at scrambling. That said, I still stand by my prior statement that we have trouble moving the ball through the air due primarily to his weak arm. And if we want to contend with the big boys, we need a passing attack. Doesn't diminish his accomplishments tonight, but his performance also doesn't change his passing deficiencies. We cannot have a one dimensional offense.
We don't need a deep passing attack though. We need an intermediate one and it was there tonight but there were so many drops. Capel looked bad. Hopkins, Lewis, Jones, and Absher all dropped at least one. Lamb didn't regress as a QB this year though the stats would have you believe that. The receivers struggled to make the easy catches at times, much less the difficult ones.
Totally agree. The receivers were the only disappointment for me last night and Taylor played a great game.
Look, I think folks on here get confused when others criticize Taylor's arm strength and accuracy, and believe it's a direct attack against his character or other capabilities. You can be both a Taylor supporter, but still acknowledge that we have trouble throwing the ball effectively, the two are not mutually exclusive. Toledo lost the game last night because we were the better team, and Taylor is certainly superior to Woodside on the ground. But hot damn that guy could throw the ball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on Sunday in the future.
I have high hopes that Taylor can and will continue to work on his arm strength and accuracy during the offseason. I'm proud to have him as our leader and QB, but I would still like to see us have a more diverse, effective passing game. And that starts with Taylor (assuming our WR's don't have stone hands like last night)
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Re: Taylor Lamb
Just for sake of conversation look at every game we have lost with TL at QB and convince me that his performance was the reason we lost.
I am going to just say this. Armanti might be the greatest player we have ever had and would be in the Mt Appsmore of greats, BUT he had a few less than stellar games and didn't tear everyone up and lost his share of FCS games. Of the 128 FBS teams how many will finish with at least 10 wins this year and how many will have at least 23 over the last 2 years?
I am going to just say this. Armanti might be the greatest player we have ever had and would be in the Mt Appsmore of greats, BUT he had a few less than stellar games and didn't tear everyone up and lost his share of FCS games. Of the 128 FBS teams how many will finish with at least 10 wins this year and how many will have at least 23 over the last 2 years?
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Re: Taylor Lamb
Do you guys who constantly criticize TL's accuracy really know what you are talking about? Do all of our receivers run every route correctly? There has to be more to consider. How about drop %? Does he throw timing plays and guys don't get separated from defenders?ah59396 wrote:CoachRob wrote:I agree that TL struggles with the deep ball and we'll need that aspect in the future if the program is to take the next step. But for tonight, the struggle was the WRs. The one disappointment of the year that I can find is that the WRs didn't step up this year from the loss of last years group. Hopefully since most are coming back with TL next year they can gain some more comradery.TheMackAttack wrote:ah59396 wrote:Taylor played a great game and I'm proud of his performance. He's gritty and great at scrambling. That said, I still stand by my prior statement that we have trouble moving the ball through the air due primarily to his weak arm. And if we want to contend with the big boys, we need a passing attack. Doesn't diminish his accomplishments tonight, but his performance also doesn't change his passing deficiencies. We cannot have a one dimensional offense.
We don't need a deep passing attack though. We need an intermediate one and it was there tonight but there were so many drops. Capel looked bad. Hopkins, Lewis, Jones, and Absher all dropped at least one. Lamb didn't regress as a QB this year though the stats would have you believe that. The receivers struggled to make the easy catches at times, much less the difficult ones.
Totally agree. The receivers were the only disappointment for me last night and Taylor played a great game.
Look, I think folks on here get confused when others criticize Taylor's arm strength and accuracy, and believe it's a direct attack against his character or other capabilities. You can be both a Taylor supporter, but still acknowledge that we have trouble throwing the ball effectively, the two are not mutually exclusive. Toledo lost the game last night because we were the better team, and Taylor is certainly superior to Woodside on the ground. But hot damn that guy could throw the ball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on Sunday in the future.
I have high hopes that Taylor can and will continue to work on his arm strength and accuracy during the offseason. I'm proud to have him as our leader and QB, but I would still like to see us have a more diverse, effective passing game. And that starts with Taylor (assuming our WR's don't have stone hands like last night)
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ah, judging by your post numbers, you must be new around here. One thing that is appsolutely not tolerated is objective discussion or constructive criticism. The Sunshine Squad won't allow it. (your first 2 sentences were spot on!)ah59396 wrote:CoachRob wrote:I agree that TL struggles with the deep ball and we'll need that aspect in the future if the program is to take the next step. But for tonight, the struggle was the WRs. The one disappointment of the year that I can find is that the WRs didn't step up this year from the loss of last years group. Hopefully since most are coming back with TL next year they can gain some more comradery.TheMackAttack wrote:ah59396 wrote:Taylor played a great game and I'm proud of his performance. He's gritty and great at scrambling. That said, I still stand by my prior statement that we have trouble moving the ball through the air due primarily to his weak arm. And if we want to contend with the big boys, we need a passing attack. Doesn't diminish his accomplishments tonight, but his performance also doesn't change his passing deficiencies. We cannot have a one dimensional offense.
We don't need a deep passing attack though. We need an intermediate one and it was there tonight but there were so many drops. Capel looked bad. Hopkins, Lewis, Jones, and Absher all dropped at least one. Lamb didn't regress as a QB this year though the stats would have you believe that. The receivers struggled to make the easy catches at times, much less the difficult ones.
Totally agree. The receivers were the only disappointment for me last night and Taylor played a great game.
Look, I think folks on here get confused when others criticize Taylor's arm strength and accuracy, and believe it's a direct attack against his character or other capabilities. You can be both a Taylor supporter, but still acknowledge that we have trouble throwing the ball effectively, the two are not mutually exclusive. Toledo lost the game last night because we were the better team, and Taylor is certainly superior to Woodside on the ground. But hot damn that guy could throw the ball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on Sunday in the future.
I have high hopes that Taylor can and will continue to work on his arm strength and accuracy during the offseason. I'm proud to have him as our leader and QB, but I would still like to see us have a more diverse, effective passing game. And that starts with Taylor (assuming our WR's don't have stone hands like last night)
Tl had the best game of his career on a huge stage!
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App91 wrote:ah, judging by your post numbers, you must be new around here. One thing that is appsolutely not tolerated is objective discussion or constructive criticism. The Sunshine Squad won't allow it. (your first 2 sentences were spot on!)ah59396 wrote:CoachRob wrote:I agree that TL struggles with the deep ball and we'll need that aspect in the future if the program is to take the next step. But for tonight, the struggle was the WRs. The one disappointment of the year that I can find is that the WRs didn't step up this year from the loss of last years group. Hopefully since most are coming back with TL next year they can gain some more comradery.TheMackAttack wrote:ah59396 wrote:Taylor played a great game and I'm proud of his performance. He's gritty and great at scrambling. That said, I still stand by my prior statement that we have trouble moving the ball through the air due primarily to his weak arm. And if we want to contend with the big boys, we need a passing attack. Doesn't diminish his accomplishments tonight, but his performance also doesn't change his passing deficiencies. We cannot have a one dimensional offense.
We don't need a deep passing attack though. We need an intermediate one and it was there tonight but there were so many drops. Capel looked bad. Hopkins, Lewis, Jones, and Absher all dropped at least one. Lamb didn't regress as a QB this year though the stats would have you believe that. The receivers struggled to make the easy catches at times, much less the difficult ones.
Totally agree. The receivers were the only disappointment for me last night and Taylor played a great game.
Look, I think folks on here get confused when others criticize Taylor's arm strength and accuracy, and believe it's a direct attack against his character or other capabilities. You can be both a Taylor supporter, but still acknowledge that we have trouble throwing the ball effectively, the two are not mutually exclusive. Toledo lost the game last night because we were the better team, and Taylor is certainly superior to Woodside on the ground. But hot damn that guy could throw the ball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on Sunday in the future.
I have high hopes that Taylor can and will continue to work on his arm strength and accuracy during the offseason. I'm proud to have him as our leader and QB, but I would still like to see us have a more diverse, effective passing game. And that starts with Taylor (assuming our WR's don't have stone hands like last night)
Tl had the best game of his career on a huge stage!
Taylor balled out last night. Won us the game and deserved the MVP. I suppose I'll leave it at that for 2016.
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Well if I remember correctly we had posters here on MMB who wanted him benched - now explain to me how that is an objective discussion of his abilities - Let's face it - we have some on here who are totally inept at being objective ---
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KUDOS to Lamb and well deserved MVP. He has been and is the best leader we have access to for our offense and has done remarkable outstanding job because he gets it done and wins! He is super at the read option and deceptively fast runner. NFL not in his future but college winner he has already proven.Seattleapp wrote:Lamb showed grit and ran with authority and did what he was supposed to do as a leader. He still can't throw a consistent spiral for whatever reason but we won and that's all that matters
But to be a thorn for the sunshine gang.....I think his passing might improve if receivers during practice would turn down the speed on the jugs machine and select a variable interval with a few wobblys and knuckleballs. What is sad when TL makes great throws we drop them. My biggest critique has always been sometimes he is late to pull the trigger when he has time and the receiver is wide open. Arm strength isn't always that important but timing is and sometimes that blame can go towards receiver and sometimes on the QB. The folks that have been critical are like lot of fans looking for perfection AGAINST the ELITE opponents. But Taylor will go into books as one of our best QBs no doubt. Proud to have him steering our ship past few years. Maybe he has had some hand injury issues we don't know about at times that hamper....But he gets the job done.
Not to mention he is tough as nails and a gritty competitor.
He also plays smart and many times that trumps ability.
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Amen!WVAPPeer wrote:Wow, what a game !!! --- Glad the coaches didn't take the advice of some of you guys and put Lamb on the bench ---
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The kid was throwing up on the sidelines and the trainers had him on trainers table checking his stomach to make sure a serious injury wasn't a result from the punishment he was receiving. Easter warmed up during the timeout and appeared to be ready to take over. Taylor insisted he was fine, went to the sideline huddle, assured the staff he was and then proceeded to march the team down the field and scored a TD. It's called leadership. Any doubt that this team looks to him to lead?
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Wow! Tough, gamer, winner! It may not always be pretty, but I for one am glad he's on our side!
Easter? What was wrong with Caruso?
Easter? What was wrong with Caruso?
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Easter was the backup at NMSU as Caruso was hurt. He was dressed last night so not sure why Easter was the backup.AppAttack wrote:Wow! Tough, gamer, winner! It may not always be pretty, but I for one am glad he's on our side!
Easter? What was wrong with Caruso?
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When they put him on the table and started checking his abdomen with the stethoscope I thought he was out. You are right about leadership.hapapp wrote:The kid was throwing up on the sidelines and the trainers had him on trainers table checking his stomach to make sure a serious injury wasn't a result from the punishment he was receiving. Easter warmed up during the timeout and appeared to be ready to take over. Taylor insisted he was fine, went to the sideline huddle, assured the staff he was and then proceeded to march the team down the field and scored a TD. It's called leadership. Any doubt that this team looks to him to lead?