Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by vegattk » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:42 am

AppAttack wrote:Winning the FCS National Championship is sorta like winning the NIT in basketball.
Bad comparison...

At this point we'd be jumping up and down to even get an invite to the NIT..... :roll:
One game does not a postseason make.
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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by vegattk » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:45 am

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Saint3333 wrote:I'm pro-FBS but I disagree. Unless we won a legit New Year's or later bowl the titles will rank above other bowls.

If you are pro-FBS because of the postseason I don't understand that perspective.
Same goes with the pro-FCS crowd. How you sacrifice 11-12 games for a 4 game tournament is beyond me. If the playoffs are such a big deal why is attendance at playoff games so bad? Don't give me the Christmas party, Thanksgiving weekend stuff. I watched FBS games all Thanksgiving weekend that were packed. ASU has been regularly involved in the playoffs for 30 years, so it should come as no surprise we might have a home game the first few weekends following the season. Where is the passion and support our fans are known for? Much in the same way I am perplexed by how more ASU fans show up at Michigan, VA Tech, and Florida than most of those all important conference games.
I happen to really enjoy the playoffs... I'm certain there... not sure why no one else is...

You can't compile EVERY App fan into one category... Just like some of the boneheads on here that assume that the majority of App fans want to go FBS OR the majority of App fans want to stay FCS...
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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:50 am

Kgfish wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:I'm pro-FBS but I disagree. Unless we won a legit New Year's or later bowl the titles will rank above other bowls.

If you are pro-FBS because of the postseason I don't understand that perspective.
Same goes with the pro-FCS crowd. How you sacrifice 11-12 games for a 4 game tournament is beyond me. If the playoffs are such a big deal why is attendance at playoff games so bad? Don't give me the Christmas party, Thanksgiving weekend stuff. I watched FBS games all Thanksgiving weekend that were packed. ASU has been regularly involved in the playoffs for 30 years, so it should come as no surprise we might have a home game the first few weekends following the season. Where is the passion and support our fans are known for? Much in the same way I am perplexed by how more ASU fans show up at Michigan, VA Tech, and Florida than most of those all important conference games.
Well if you consider going to ASU games a sacrifice then I am not sure what to say. I guess I have to wonder why you are here to begin with. Attendance is no mystery. The 16k that show up for the playoffs are the real hardcore fans. They are the fans that will be there if we are not winning 8-9 games a year. They are the folks that will still tailgate when it is cold or raining. That is not going to change if we are FBS. When you get past that 16-17k mark it is the folks who are not into it that much but tailgating is fun. You know why some bowls look full? because of camera positions and because locals can buy tickets for 2-4 dollars like VT is trying to dump right now. My point is that attendance drops in the post season at all levels.

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:53 am

Wonder how many will make the trip to the Little Caesar's Bowl in Detroit in the middle of the week on the day after Christmas? ---
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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by PhillyApp1 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:22 am

WVAPPeer wrote:Wonder how many will make the trip to the Little Caesar's Bowl in Detroit in the middle of the week on the day after Christmas? ---
I will...Love me soem APP Football...even in D-troit....going to ann arbor again,also !!!

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:28 am

WVAPPeer wrote:Wonder how many will make the trip to the Little Caesar's Bowl in Detroit in the middle of the week on the day after Christmas? ---
Well if everyone who goes to their home games from both teams show up there will be 33,451. Not a lot more than show up for a lowly game at KBS for a game against Elon. In fact their average season attendance WC 17,415 and CM 16,036 is about the same as our attendance for playoff games. Not sure where that fits in with the better competition theory.

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by GlassOnion » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:19 pm

bcoach wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:Wonder how many will make the trip to the Little Caesar's Bowl in Detroit in the middle of the week on the day after Christmas? ---
Well if everyone who goes to their home games from both teams show up there will be 33,451. Not a lot more than show up for a lowly game at KBS for a game against Elon. In fact their average season attendance WC 17,415 and CM 16,036 is about the same as our attendance for playoff games. Not sure where that fits in with the better competition theory.
Not sure what attendance has to do with the level of play on the field.

If you want to look at level of competition though, 4-8 Western Michigan blew out their FCS opponent and playoff team, Eastern Illinois 52-21. Eastern Illinois lost to our very own Illinois State team in OT, 51-54.

Of course Coastal gets blown out and still makes the playoffs. The MEAC gets blown out year after year after year, but they get an autobid.

Its not like the FCS is all quality either.

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:32 pm

bcoach wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:Wonder how many will make the trip to the Little Caesar's Bowl in Detroit in the middle of the week on the day after Christmas? ---
Well if everyone who goes to their home games from both teams show up there will be 33,451. Not a lot more than show up for a lowly game at KBS for a game against Elon. In fact their average season attendance WC 17,415 and CM 16,036 is about the same as our attendance for playoff games. Not sure where that fits in with the better competition theory.
Not sure where you learned to spell Kentucky. :lol:

If you're looking for a rooting interest in this game, go with CMU. I've never met Midland Chip, but he comes to Boone every year for one of our games, so he's good people in my book. 8-)
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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:39 pm

AppinVA wrote:
bcoach wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:Wonder how many will make the trip to the Little Caesar's Bowl in Detroit in the middle of the week on the day after Christmas? ---
Well if everyone who goes to their home games from both teams show up there will be 33,451. Not a lot more than show up for a lowly game at KBS for a game against Elon. In fact their average season attendance WC 17,415 and CM 16,036 is about the same as our attendance for playoff games. Not sure where that fits in with the better competition theory.
Not sure where you learned to spell Kentucky. :lol:

If you're looking for a rooting interest in this game, go with CMU. I've never met Midland Chip, but he comes to Boone every year for one of our games, so he's good people in my book. 8-)
Well i just don't have an answer for that. I was going to try the old keyboard thing but the c and k are not really very close are they. How about too much eggnog?
Now when it comes to Central Michigan their paid attendance is 4,400 yes that , is in the right place.

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by oldfan » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:45 pm

A DC in the SoCon needs to be proven in defending the option. The best defenses in the SoCon at doing that are Samford and UTC. Looking at both DC's I think Adam Fuller from UTC would be worth investigating. Thoughts?

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Unread post by AppState89 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:04 pm

oldfan wrote:A DC in the SoCon needs to be proven in defending the option. The best defenses in the SoCon at doing that are Samford and UTC. Looking at both DC's I think Adam Fuller from UTC would be worth investigating. Thoughts?

Yes....if we can stop the triple option and the DBs we have/or will have should do well vs the pass, we will have a very good D. We should have the best O in the county next year.
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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by Kgfish » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:25 am

vegattk wrote:
Kgfish wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:I'm pro-FBS but I disagree. Unless we won a legit New Year's or later bowl the titles will rank above other bowls.

If you are pro-FBS because of the postseason I don't understand that perspective.
Same goes with the pro-FCS crowd. How you sacrifice 11-12 games for a 4 game tournament is beyond me. If the playoffs are such a big deal why is attendance at playoff games so bad? Don't give me the Christmas party, Thanksgiving weekend stuff. I watched FBS games all Thanksgiving weekend that were packed. ASU has been regularly involved in the playoffs for 30 years, so it should come as no surprise we might have a home game the first few weekends following the season. Where is the passion and support our fans are known for? Much in the same way I am perplexed by how more ASU fans show up at Michigan, VA Tech, and Florida than most of those all important conference games.
I happen to really enjoy the playoffs... I'm certain there... not sure why no one else is...

You can't compile EVERY App fan into one category... Just like some of the boneheads on here that assume that the majority of App fans want to go FBS OR the majority of App fans want to stay FCS...
I am decidedly pro FCS but more importantly pro ASU and enjoy the playoffs as well, especially seeing different teams. We buy season tickets - have since the 80's - and make as many road games as possible. Never missed a home playoff game and only 6 of the 12 road games. Can't understand why it is so hard to make the home games, especially on Thanksgiving. The game is two days after the holiday. Maybe I underestimate how many people travel long distances that weekend. I want to play Wake, ECU, and Marshall on a yearly basis. Obviously there is no guarantee it will happen but the only possible way is to be FBS.
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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:38 am

Kgfish wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:I'm pro-FBS but I disagree. Unless we won a legit New Year's or later bowl the titles will rank above other bowls.

If you are pro-FBS because of the postseason I don't understand that perspective.
Same goes with the pro-FCS crowd. How you sacrifice 11-12 games for a 4 game tournament is beyond me. If the playoffs are such a big deal why is attendance at playoff games so bad? Don't give me the Christmas party, Thanksgiving weekend stuff. I watched FBS games all Thanksgiving weekend that were packed. ASU has been regularly involved in the playoffs for 30 years, so it should come as no surprise we might have a home game the first few weekends following the season. Where is the passion and support our fans are known for? Much in the same way I am perplexed by how more ASU fans show up at Michigan, VA Tech, and Florida than most of those all important conference games.
You must be new here as you clearly don't understand my position on this.

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by ASU_MBA » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:20 pm

We could have a thread entitled "Your Momma's so fat...." and it will still turn into a FCS vs. FBS debate.
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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by firemoose » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:53 am

Your Momma's so fat she needs FBS in order to maintain her recruiting weight. If she stays FCS the recruiting will be so thin that she'll lose weight and there won't be a joke anymore, except us when Presbyterian is our homecoming game. ;)

Oh no he did not just go there!!!

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Re: Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:16 am

firemoose wrote:Your Momma's so fat she needs FBS in order to maintain her recruiting weight. If she stays FCS the recruiting will be so thin that she'll lose weight and there won't be a joke anymore, except us when Presbyterian is our homecoming game. ;)

Oh no he did not just go there!!!
Hope that weight don't kill your Momma. :o

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