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Re: Ledford
I'm getting the feeling that Louisville is going to be what App could be if we were in a P5 conference. If Satt and half of our old coaching staff can do in the ACC what they did in the Sun Belt...grrrr.
Re: Ledford
Honestly - if Ledford was as serious a candidate as some thought - I don't think he would've done this. Not sure what he's going to get paid at Louisville - but you can't pay everyone 7 figures.
I get the feeling he knew he wasn't going to get this job, so went looking for a raise from a coach he liked working for.
I get the feeling he knew he wasn't going to get this job, so went looking for a raise from a coach he liked working for.
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Re: Ledford
This is exactly what I was thinking when I first heard this....appgrad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:52 pmHonestly - if Ledford was as serious a candidate as some thought - I don't think he would've done this. Not sure what he's going to get paid at Louisville - but you can't pay everyone 7 figures.
I get the feeling he knew he wasn't going to get this job, so went looking for a raise from a coach he liked working for.
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Re: Ledford
At this point there is no/has not been a preferred. They are still in the interview process and the weather isn't likely helping.The Rock wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:05 pmAccording to the football scoop article, Ivey nor Horton are mentioned. Don’t know if it only discussed “new” candidates or if it listed best possibilities.diehardapp18 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:54 pmWould be a horrendous hire. Honestly, all the remaining candidates we know of are pretty underwhelming. Ivey, Horton, Woody... none of those really excite me. I really hope there's something to the Josh Gattis rumors.
And to clarify, Woody wouldn't be awful. But I'd prefer someone more young and energetic.
Out of Ruffin, Woody, or Gattis, I would definitely want Gattis.
I feel like if Ivey was a possibility, he would have been announced already. Way cleaner going into the Bowl if it was him.
Sounds like Ledford was the preferred, till the Visor jerked the rug out from under us and now we are having to regroup.
http://footballscoop.com/news/sunday-ni ... app-state/
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Re: Ledford
Louisville has potential to get a lot better than they are at the moment. Only Clemson and Florida State and Miami in the ACC can be better on a consistent basis if done right. SS has positioned himself to be a hero.hotrod2001 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:22 pmI'm getting the feeling that Louisville is going to be what App could be if we were in a P5 conference. If Satt and half of our old coaching staff can do in the ACC what they did in the Sun Belt...grrrr.
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Re: Ledford
Just curious, but what would be horrendous about Horton?diehardapp18 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:54 pmWould be a horrendous hire. Honestly, all the remaining candidates we know of are pretty underwhelming. Ivey, Horton, Woody... none of those really excite me. I really hope there's something to the Josh Gattis rumors.
And to clarify, Woody wouldn't be awful. But I'd prefer someone more young and energetic.
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Based on the article's suggestion the decision to hire our next head coach is now pushed back due to Ledford's leaving for Louisville, I'm guessing he was not only a serious candidate but our number one target. But who knows.appgrad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:52 pmHonestly - if Ledford was as serious a candidate as some thought - I don't think he would've done this. Not sure what he's going to get paid at Louisville - but you can't pay everyone 7 figures.
I get the feeling he knew he wasn't going to get this job, so went looking for a raise from a coach he liked working for.
Of the three, Woody's the safe choice, Gattis is the most intriguing, exciting and risky choice while Ruffin is the middle of the road choice. I trust Doug will make the best choice.
Re: Ledford
Which article? That is not a conclusion I drew from the footballscoop report, which is the main source for everyone reporting that he is going to Louisville.mikeyosef wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:59 amBased on the article's suggestion the decision to hire our next head coach is now pushed back due to Ledford's leaving for Louisville, I'm guessing he was not only a serious candidate but our number one target. But who knows.appgrad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:52 pmHonestly - if Ledford was as serious a candidate as some thought - I don't think he would've done this. Not sure what he's going to get paid at Louisville - but you can't pay everyone 7 figures.
I get the feeling he knew he wasn't going to get this job, so went looking for a raise from a coach he liked working for.
Of the three, Woody's the safe choice, Gattis is the most intriguing, exciting and risky choice while Ruffin is the middle of the road choice. I trust Doug will make the best choice.
We don’t even know for a fact that he interviewed for the job
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Re: Ledford
Let's all keep in mind that we really don't know what's really happening, or anything about the conversations with these candidates. Also, Satt and DG aren't going to coordinate who they're talking to. Satt has positions to fill and he's doing his job even if it might interfere with what DG's trying to do, there's no malicious intent it's just business. We are in full blown rumor mill mode here and we don't know what the facts are.
If Ledford ends up at UL it may have been because DG signaled that he wasn't a front-runner, so if Ledford wanted to make a change he had to grab the UL opportunity while it was still available. There's a domino affect as these coaching positions get filled and then prior positions get vacated and then candidate searches start to get those filled, so the ground is always shifting beneath their feet so there's not much time for these guys to let things play out.
If Ledford ends up at UL it may have been because DG signaled that he wasn't a front-runner, so if Ledford wanted to make a change he had to grab the UL opportunity while it was still available. There's a domino affect as these coaching positions get filled and then prior positions get vacated and then candidate searches start to get those filled, so the ground is always shifting beneath their feet so there's not much time for these guys to let things play out.
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"We had previously been told Gillin’s goal was to have his next head coach selected by the end of this weekend; but with Ledford’s decision it appears that timeline will be stretched a bit." ---- Footballscoop article.appgrad wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:05 amWhich article? That is not a conclusion I drew from the footballscoop report, which is the main source for everyone reporting that he is going to Louisville.mikeyosef wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:59 amBased on the article's suggestion the decision to hire our next head coach is now pushed back due to Ledford's leaving for Louisville, I'm guessing he was not only a serious candidate but our number one target. But who knows.appgrad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:52 pmHonestly - if Ledford was as serious a candidate as some thought - I don't think he would've done this. Not sure what he's going to get paid at Louisville - but you can't pay everyone 7 figures.
I get the feeling he knew he wasn't going to get this job, so went looking for a raise from a coach he liked working for.
Of the three, Woody's the safe choice, Gattis is the most intriguing, exciting and risky choice while Ruffin is the middle of the road choice. I trust Doug will make the best choice.
We don’t even know for a fact that he interviewed for the job
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Re: Ledford
I know the FootballScoop alluded to that, but I have not seen this timeline from a reputable source. Folks, not directed solely at you, need to stop with supposition. Interviews are progressing.
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I think there is some confusion on the articles. There is a second article from Football Scoop that came out last night after the Ledford article = "Sunday night Update at App State."
Nice photo of Taylor Lamb (#11) with the article. I bet his Mom took it.
http://footballscoop.com/news/sunday-ni ... app-state/
Beat MTSU!!
Nice photo of Taylor Lamb (#11) with the article. I bet his Mom took it.
http://footballscoop.com/news/sunday-ni ... app-state/
Beat MTSU!!
Give Em Hell!!
Re: Ledford
Right… That article is drawing its own conclusions about how that decision affects our search. Does not even remotely imply that he was our top choice.
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Re: Ledford
I particularly enjoy the term, “whispers” being used. That seems like a careful way of saying, let’s make some s%&t up since we don’t have any credible information.
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I guess I'm wondering how the hell FootballScoop would even get this kind of information? People talk, sure, but unless DG or one of the candidates themselves is the leak, I don't trust a bit of what is being reported here. App State isn't Louisville when it comes to the press and rumor mongering.
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The old rules of journalism don't even apply to print and TV news any longer, although some try to keep to that standard, and the internet reporting sites are even worse because they've got to keep new content coming to get the clicks and they have to get it out fast. The 24 hour news cycle isn't conducive to taking the time to validate and re-validate sources. Until you hear it from a truly reliable, primary source, it could be true but could not be true. Could be true but presented in a way that flavors the reader's opinion based on the way the facts are presented and the tone of the article.
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Leaks like these usually come from someone with something to gain. Look no further than the coaches agents...assuming they have agents of course. This kind of talk ups the value, real or perceived of the candidates.8993 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:00 amI guess I'm wondering how the hell FootballScoop would even get this kind of information? People talk, sure, but unless DG or one of the candidates themselves is the leak, I don't trust a bit of what is being reported here. App State isn't Louisville when it comes to the press and rumor mongering.
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Re: Ledford
Meanwhile ladies and gents, we have a ballgame this week to play and WIN! Time to turn our attention to the guys in the game.
GO APPS!
GO APPS!