Coach Drink Staff Thread

[Appstate88]

Since we are supposedly waiting for the future DC’s season to end does that mean a Clemson or Bama assistant?

I pray that we could still finagle a better DC candidate (read: less proven but higher upside) out of Clemson or Bama but I highly doubt it. Is there even anyone on either staff with Drink connections? That seems to be the big selling point.

Todd Bates. Clemson Defensive Assistant, DL. He has upside potential. He makes $300k.

Added as a full-time assistant coach in January 2016; takes over as coach of the defensive line following the retirement of Dan Brooks and move of Marion Hobby to the NFL’s Jacksonville Jaguars. Helped Jacksonville State to 33-6 record in three seasons from 2014-16. The Gamecocks reached the FCS National Championship Game in 2015, and compiled a perfect 23-0 record in the Ohio Valley Conference with three titles in his tenure.

[The Rock]

Pepsi>Choke

Cheer wine beats all.

Aww come on man, Cheerwine is good, but not even in the same class. Cheerwine can only be compared to other “spicy Cherry” drinks, ie Cherry Coke, Dr Pepper, Dr Pepper Cherry, or Cherry Lemon SunDrop. It is just a secondary brand, albeit a good one.

Yankee...

[AppSt94]

Since we are supposedly waiting for the future DC’s season to end does that mean a Clemson or Bama assistant?

I pray that we could still finagle a better DC candidate (read: less proven but higher upside) out of Clemson or Bama but I highly doubt it. Is there even anyone on either staff with Drink connections? That seems to be the big selling point.

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

[The Rock]

Since we are supposedly waiting for the future DC’s season to end does that mean a Clemson or Bama assistant?

I pray that we could still finagle a better DC candidate (read: less proven but higher upside) out of Clemson or Bama but I highly doubt it. Is there even anyone on either staff with Drink connections? That seems to be the big selling point.

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

[Rekdiver]

RC Cola, Cheerwine, SunDrop, Upper10 and a Yohoo.

[AppSt94]

Since we are supposedly waiting for the future DC’s season to end does that mean a Clemson or Bama assistant?

I pray that we could still finagle a better DC candidate (read: less proven but higher upside) out of Clemson or Bama but I highly doubt it. Is there even anyone on either staff with Drink connections? That seems to be the big selling point.

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

Just curious, but if he is so bad, how is it that he keeps getting employed? Not saying that he is ideal, but all of the things that you state should be a detriment, but yet he keeps getting hired.

[appstatealum]

RC Cola, Cheerwine, SunDrop, Upper10 and a Yohoo.

My wife loves Yoo-hoo. I tried real hard to think of a time that I ever purchased a Yoo-hoo. It’s more of a thing I just drank if it was available.

[appstatealum]

Pepsi>Choke

Cheer wine beats all.

Aww come on man, Cheerwine is good, but not even in the same class. Cheerwine can only be compared to other “spicy Cherry” drinks, ie Cherry Coke, Dr Pepper, Dr Pepper Cherry, or Cherry Lemon SunDrop. It is just a secondary brand, albeit a good one.

Yankee...

Haha, nope. Born and raised in the South, albeit to a couple of Yankees. Just consider me a “beverage expert” though, been working in the industry for over 13 years.

[ComebackShack]

Since we are supposedly waiting for the future DC’s season to end does that mean a Clemson or Bama assistant?

I pray that we could still finagle a better DC candidate (read: less proven but higher upside) out of Clemson or Bama but I highly doubt it. Is there even anyone on either staff with Drink connections? That seems to be the big selling point.

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

Just curious, but if he is so bad, how is it that he keeps getting employed? Not saying that he is ideal, but all of the things that you state should be a detriment, but yet he keeps getting hired.

Football is an old boys club. Same reason that Hue Jackson is about to get the Bengals HC job. It’s more about who you know than how good you are. And Ted Roof knows people. Plus once you have a ring, you can coach for as long as you want. You don’t think it’s worrying that our DC went from being Auburn’s DC on a Natty squad to being NCSUs 10th assisstant and their safeties guy, and then further going down to a (perceived) lower position at a G5 for likely a pay cut? That’s a bad trajectory he’s on. Guys with his experience don’t coach for App. They coach at the big boy schools. That gives me pause.

[Appstate88]

I pray that we could still finagle a better DC candidate (read: less proven but higher upside) out of Clemson or Bama but I highly doubt it. Is there even anyone on either staff with Drink connections? That seems to be the big selling point.

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

Just curious, but if he is so bad, how is it that he keeps getting employed? Not saying that he is ideal, but all of the things that you state should be a detriment, but yet he keeps getting hired.

Football is an old boys club. Same reason that Hue Jackson is about to get the Bengals HC job. It’s more about who you know than how good you are. And Ted Roof knows people. Plus once you have a ring, you can coach for as long as you want. You don’t think it’s worrying that our DC went from being Auburn’s DC on a Natty squad to being NCSUs 10th assisstant and their safeties guy, and then further going down to a (perceived) lower position at a G5 for likely a pay cut? That’s a bad trajectory he’s on. Guys with his experience don’t coach for App. They coach at the big boy schools. That gives me pause.

You hit the nail on the head. I’m not excited about Ted “Leaky” Roof.

[AppSt94]

I pray that we could still finagle a better DC candidate (read: less proven but higher upside) out of Clemson or Bama but I highly doubt it. Is there even anyone on either staff with Drink connections? That seems to be the big selling point.

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

Just curious, but if he is so bad, how is it that he keeps getting employed? Not saying that he is ideal, but all of the things that you state should be a detriment, but yet he keeps getting hired.

Football is an old boys club. Same reason that Hue Jackson is about to get the Bengals HC job. It’s more about who you know than how good you are. And Ted Roof knows people. Plus once you have a ring, you can coach for as long as you want. You don’t think it’s worrying that our DC went from being Auburn’s DC on a Natty squad to being NCSUs 10th assisstant and their safeties guy, and then further going down to a (perceived) lower position at a G5 for likely a pay cut? That’s a bad trajectory he’s on. Guys with his experience don’t coach for App. They coach at the big boy schools. That gives me pause.

Wasn’t he still owed money from Ga Tech last year? If so, he could afford to work as a 10th Asst. I don’t have a problem with Roof because he is a short term solution. His experience will be invaluable to Drink. First time HC that can bring in a guy that he trust to do the job he was hired to do with minimal supervision. He also can help mentor Drink through the HC life. Another aspect is that he can mentor a member of the defensive staff to become the DC in a couple of years. The easy rebuttal would be to hire Woody or Sloan, but he doesn’t know them.

[Appstate88]

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

Just curious, but if he is so bad, how is it that he keeps getting employed? Not saying that he is ideal, but all of the things that you state should be a detriment, but yet he keeps getting hired.

Football is an old boys club. Same reason that Hue Jackson is about to get the Bengals HC job. It’s more about who you know than how good you are. And Ted Roof knows people. Plus once you have a ring, you can coach for as long as you want. You don’t think it’s worrying that our DC went from being Auburn’s DC on a Natty squad to being NCSUs 10th assisstant and their safeties guy, and then further going down to a (perceived) lower position at a G5 for likely a pay cut? That’s a bad trajectory he’s on. Guys with his experience don’t coach for App. They coach at the big boy schools. That gives me pause.

Wasn’t he still owed money from Ga Tech last year? If so, he could afford to work as a 10th Asst. I don’t have a problem with Roof because he is a short term solution. His experience will be invaluable to Drink. First time HC that can bring in a guy that he trust to do the job he was hired to do with minimal supervision. He also can help mentor Drink through the HC life. Another aspect is that he can mentor a member of the defensive staff to become the DC in a couple of years. The easy rebuttal would be to hire Woody or Sloan, but he doesn’t know them.

Did he know Clark, Smith, Watts or Gasparato?

[The Rock]

If roof was a co-dc or any defense assistant in a top 10-20 P5 team, I would be ecstatic, but the fact is he is a co-dc at a school that ranked below App at virtually every defensive catergory and was a weak spot to the team, as they were offensively sound overall. That along with his other less than stellar resume makes me not excited.
He won a ring at Auburn because of Cam Newton, not because of his lock down defense. I remember that game, it was a shootout with all offense and no defense that took heroics from cam to win the game.

[AppSt94]

Clark and Watts works for him on offense. The other two were not DC ready. Gasparato may be at some point and Roof can help develop him into that role.

[asu7]

See guys I am not the only one not excited about the roof hire.

I would rather build a wall than a roof ... especially on defense. Maybe we can Lousville pay for it!

[The Rock]

Given our returning talent, don’t you think that we are better off with a proven commodity over someone with limited to no experience as a DC?

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

Just curious, but if he is so bad, how is it that he keeps getting employed? Not saying that he is ideal, but all of the things that you state should be a detriment, but yet he keeps getting hired.

Football is an old boys club. Same reason that Hue Jackson is about to get the Bengals HC job. It’s more about who you know than how good you are. And Ted Roof knows people. Plus once you have a ring, you can coach for as long as you want. You don’t think it’s worrying that our DC went from being Auburn’s DC on a Natty squad to being NCSUs 10th assisstant and their safeties guy, and then further going down to a (perceived) lower position at a G5 for likely a pay cut? That’s a bad trajectory he’s on. Guys with his experience don’t coach for App. They coach at the big boy schools. That gives me pause.

Wasn’t he still owed money from Ga Tech last year? If so, he could afford to work as a 10th Asst. I don’t have a problem with Roof because he is a short term solution. His experience will be invaluable to Drink. First time HC that can bring in a guy that he trust to do the job he was hired to do with minimal supervision. He also can help mentor Drink through the HC life. Another aspect is that he can mentor a member of the defensive staff to become the DC in a couple of years. The easy rebuttal would be to hire Woody or Sloan, but he doesn’t know them.

Have you seen his record as a head coach? I don’t think I want him giving Drink any pointers, and if Drink is the right guy, he isn’t taking any from him

[AppSt94]

If roof was a co-dc or any defense assistant in a top 10-20 P5 team, I would be ecstatic, but the fact is he is a co-dc at a school that ranked below App at virtually every defensive catergory and was a weak spot to the team, as they were offensively sound overall. That along with his other less than stellar resume makes me not excited.
He won a ring at Auburn because of Cam Newton, not because of his lock down defense. I remember that game, it was a shootout with all offense and no defense that took heroics from cam to win the game.

Shootout? Are you sure you were watching the right game? Auburn won 22-19.

[AppSt94]

The Proven commodity of mediocrity, questionable recruiting talent and moving on often and before being fired?
I will take a young promising albeit unproven person if possible

Just curious, but if he is so bad, how is it that he keeps getting employed? Not saying that he is ideal, but all of the things that you state should be a detriment, but yet he keeps getting hired.

Football is an old boys club. Same reason that Hue Jackson is about to get the Bengals HC job. It’s more about who you know than how good you are. And Ted Roof knows people. Plus once you have a ring, you can coach for as long as you want. You don’t think it’s worrying that our DC went from being Auburn’s DC on a Natty squad to being NCSUs 10th assisstant and their safeties guy, and then further going down to a (perceived) lower position at a G5 for likely a pay cut? That’s a bad trajectory he’s on. Guys with his experience don’t coach for App. They coach at the big boy schools. That gives me pause.

Wasn’t he still owed money from Ga Tech last year? If so, he could afford to work as a 10th Asst. I don’t have a problem with Roof because he is a short term solution. His experience will be invaluable to Drink. First time HC that can bring in a guy that he trust to do the job he was hired to do with minimal supervision. He also can help mentor Drink through the HC life. Another aspect is that he can mentor a member of the defensive staff to become the DC in a couple of years. The easy rebuttal would be to hire Woody or Sloan, but he doesn’t know them.

Have you seen his record as a head coach? I don’t think I want him giving Drink any pointers, and if Drink is the right guy, he isn’t taking any from him

Sure have. He inherited a shit show program that was hard to win with.

[Appstate88]

Hire Woody. Or go get someone like Todd Bates at Clemson. The right DC guy must be able to recruit and get commits for us to continue our climb. We don’t need a gray beard dinosaur, we have a winning culture.

[YosefNinja5]

App Alum Steve Wilks?