Who stays, who goes?

[ericsaid]

I'd put money on Riley being offered the OC gig full-time, if it hasn't been done already. I have no inside knowledge. Drink is hiring an OC from TCU, I believe.

Riley's shot will be here if Clark offers.

Drink isn't calling the plays himself next season?

Drink is calling plays at Mizzou. Still hiring an offensive coordinator though.

Maybe the Tiger fans will have a chance to witness the offensive genius more so than we did

I don't know that he is an offensive genius. I really don't like that term because it doesn't exist. There are some guys who are ahead of the curve for their age, like Lincoln Riley and probably Drinkwitz. Hoping the Riley - Football connection is real.

A Mizzou message board did a breakdown of Drinks play calling along with play diagrams. The more I look at it, the more it looks like Drink took his plays from NCAA 14. I've run each one of the plays that they go over ad nauseum in that game and throughout the years in Madden. It isn't some difficult concept to understand from a coaching and play development standpoint. The hard part is getting a QB who can execute, an offensive line who can sustain blocks, and a wide receivers corp who will work on their route development until their legs fall off.

Otherwise, it's almost exactly like playing a game. He runs the same patterns but flips the play based on down and situation. Will flip the play as an audible where receivers change their routes and depth. It's nothing genius or earth shattering. Just effective game planning and execution. That's why the players aren't concerned that he left. His play book is generic.

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

[AppStateNews]

I'd put money on Riley being offered the OC gig full-time, if it hasn't been done already. I have no inside knowledge. Drink is hiring an OC from TCU, I believe.

Riley's shot will be here if Clark offers.

Drink isn't calling the plays himself next season?

Drink is calling plays at Mizzou. Still hiring an offensive coordinator though.

Maybe the Tiger fans will have a chance to witness the offensive genius more so than we did

I don't know that he is an offensive genius. I really don't like that term because it doesn't exist. There are some guys who are ahead of the curve for their age, like Lincoln Riley and probably Drinkwitz. Hoping the Riley - Football connection is real.

A Mizzou message board did a breakdown of Drinks play calling along with play diagrams. The more I look at it, the more it looks like Drink took his plays from NCAA 14. I've run each one of the plays that they go over ad nauseum in that game and throughout the years in Madden. It isn't some difficult concept to understand from a coaching and play development standpoint. The hard part is getting a QB who can execute, an offensive line who can sustain blocks, and a wide receivers corp who will work on their route development until their legs fall off.

Otherwise, it's almost exactly like playing a game. He runs the same patterns but flips the play based on down and situation. Will flip the play as an audible where receivers change their routes and depth. It's nothing genius or earth shattering. Just effective game planning and execution. That's why the players aren't concerned that he left. His play book is generic.

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

If it was that easy, why aren't you making $4 mil a year? Sure, we've all ran those plays in video games. But knowing when, how, the tempo, the variations, etc is the hard part.

I mean hell, I've won a couple championships in NCAAF 14, so I wonder why Alabama hasn't called me yet.

[ericsaid]

Drink isn't calling the plays himself next season?

Drink is calling plays at Mizzou. Still hiring an offensive coordinator though.

Maybe the Tiger fans will have a chance to witness the offensive genius more so than we did

I don't know that he is an offensive genius. I really don't like that term because it doesn't exist. There are some guys who are ahead of the curve for their age, like Lincoln Riley and probably Drinkwitz. Hoping the Riley - Football connection is real.

A Mizzou message board did a breakdown of Drinks play calling along with play diagrams. The more I look at it, the more it looks like Drink took his plays from NCAA 14. I've run each one of the plays that they go over ad nauseum in that game and throughout the years in Madden. It isn't some difficult concept to understand from a coaching and play development standpoint. The hard part is getting a QB who can execute, an offensive line who can sustain blocks, and a wide receivers corp who will work on their route development until their legs fall off.

Otherwise, it's almost exactly like playing a game. He runs the same patterns but flips the play based on down and situation. Will flip the play as an audible where receivers change their routes and depth. It's nothing genius or earth shattering. Just effective game planning and execution. That's why the players aren't concerned that he left. His play book is generic.

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

If it was that easy, why aren't you making $4 mil a year? Sure, we've all ran those plays in video games. But knowing when, how, the tempo, the variations, etc is the hard part.

I mean hell, I've won a couple championships in NCAAF 14, so I wonder why Alabama hasn't called me yet.

As I stated, the hard part is on coaching the plays to make them work. I guess you glossed over that part?

My point was to say that he isn't some offensive genius. Genius, in my mind, implies originality. There is nothing original in his play calling, game planning, or development of a program. He may be a quality coach and ahead of the curve, as far as his age is concerned, but he's simply running pro concepts in the passing game.

Saying it's simple and where the plays can be found isn't diminishing the aspects of tempo and coaching the players into executing the correct plays. The use of "tempo" isn't a difficult concept either: Sudden change. Whether it's a chunk play or a turnover, you go up tempo, shock and fury. There is no magic formula. Sort of like when Drink when be running and calling an efficient game with Zac in rhythm then randomly call an ave formation reverse to the slot back then go right back to the shotgun. To me, it defeats the purpose to run "trick plays" out of formations that you only use for trick plays. Run trick plays out of your base formations for obvious reasons.

Another thing Drink seems to like is advanced analytics. He talks about average possessions per game, has measurements for plays that gain specific yardage and their impact on efficiency, etc. How you implement what you gain in knowledge from data is as important as the data itself.

Regardless, my comments were not a slight about Drinks ability to coach. Obviously that takes what I explained to another level. But he isn't some Lincoln Riley type who will design an original offense tailored to whomever he has on hand.

[AppStateNews]

Drink is calling plays at Mizzou. Still hiring an offensive coordinator though.

Maybe the Tiger fans will have a chance to witness the offensive genius more so than we did

I don't know that he is an offensive genius. I really don't like that term because it doesn't exist. There are some guys who are ahead of the curve for their age, like Lincoln Riley and probably Drinkwitz. Hoping the Riley - Football connection is real.

A Mizzou message board did a breakdown of Drinks play calling along with play diagrams. The more I look at it, the more it looks like Drink took his plays from NCAA 14. I've run each one of the plays that they go over ad nauseum in that game and throughout the years in Madden. It isn't some difficult concept to understand from a coaching and play development standpoint. The hard part is getting a QB who can execute, an offensive line who can sustain blocks, and a wide receivers corp who will work on their route development until their legs fall off.

Otherwise, it's almost exactly like playing a game. He runs the same patterns but flips the play based on down and situation. Will flip the play as an audible where receivers change their routes and depth. It's nothing genius or earth shattering. Just effective game planning and execution. That's why the players aren't concerned that he left. His play book is generic.

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

If it was that easy, why aren't you making $4 mil a year? Sure, we've all ran those plays in video games. But knowing when, how, the tempo, the variations, etc is the hard part.

I mean hell, I've won a couple championships in NCAAF 14, so I wonder why Alabama hasn't called me yet.

As I stated, the hard part is on coaching the plays to make them work. I guess you glossed over that part?

My point was to say that he isn't some offensive genius. Genius, in my mind, implies originality. There is nothing original in his play calling, game planning, or development of a program. He may be a quality coach and ahead of the curve, as far as his age is concerned, but he's simply running pro concepts in the passing game.

Saying it's simple and where the plays can be found isn't diminishing the aspects of tempo and coaching the players into executing the correct plays. The use of "tempo" isn't a difficult concept either: Sudden change. Whether it's a chunk play or a turnover, you go up tempo, shock and fury. There is no magic formula. Sort of like when Drink when be running and calling an efficient game with Zac in rhythm then randomly call an ave formation reverse to the slot back then go right back to the shotgun. To me, it defeats the purpose to run "trick plays" out of formations that you only use for trick plays. Run trick plays out of your base formations for obvious reasons.

Another thing Drink seems to like is advanced analytics. He talks about average possessions per game, has measurements for plays that gain specific yardage and their impact on efficiency, etc. How you implement what you gain in knowledge from data is as important as the data itself.

Regardless, my comments were not a slight about Drinks ability to coach. Obviously that takes what I explained to another level. But he isn't some Lincoln Riley type who will design an original offense tailored to whomever he has on hand.

BREAKING NEWS: The next multi million dollar coach is on Yosef's Cabin!!!!

Let me guess -- you think building cutting edge technology is just writing some code, making good movies is just reading a script, and hitting a baseball is just about swinging the bat? All just so easy!

Whether you like it or not, Drink is an offensive guru. I personally don't think he will do that well at Mizzou because I think he will have issues building a winning culture. But it will have nothing to do with his offensive mind.

[hapapp]

Much like he did here he's keeping a number of key folks at Mizzou, especially on the defensive side of the ball. He's smart enough to realize that they already had a pretty good defense. Fortunately for us he keep enough App guys when he came here to make this transition less disruptive. His best move was keeping Clark on staff.

[AppStateMtneer]

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

Didn't see hb dive on every first down on the playbook breakdown. #disappointed

[NavyApp]

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

Didn't see hb dive on every first down on the playbook breakdown. #disappointed

I think that's such a foregone conclusion that they are breaking down what 2nd and 3rd downs may look like!

[ericsaid]

Maybe the Tiger fans will have a chance to witness the offensive genius more so than we did

I don't know that he is an offensive genius. I really don't like that term because it doesn't exist. There are some guys who are ahead of the curve for their age, like Lincoln Riley and probably Drinkwitz. Hoping the Riley - Football connection is real.

A Mizzou message board did a breakdown of Drinks play calling along with play diagrams. The more I look at it, the more it looks like Drink took his plays from NCAA 14. I've run each one of the plays that they go over ad nauseum in that game and throughout the years in Madden. It isn't some difficult concept to understand from a coaching and play development standpoint. The hard part is getting a QB who can execute, an offensive line who can sustain blocks, and a wide receivers corp who will work on their route development until their legs fall off.

Otherwise, it's almost exactly like playing a game. He runs the same patterns but flips the play based on down and situation. Will flip the play as an audible where receivers change their routes and depth. It's nothing genius or earth shattering. Just effective game planning and execution. That's why the players aren't concerned that he left. His play book is generic.

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

If it was that easy, why aren't you making $4 mil a year? Sure, we've all ran those plays in video games. But knowing when, how, the tempo, the variations, etc is the hard part.

I mean hell, I've won a couple championships in NCAAF 14, so I wonder why Alabama hasn't called me yet.

As I stated, the hard part is on coaching the plays to make them work. I guess you glossed over that part?

My point was to say that he isn't some offensive genius. Genius, in my mind, implies originality. There is nothing original in his play calling, game planning, or development of a program. He may be a quality coach and ahead of the curve, as far as his age is concerned, but he's simply running pro concepts in the passing game.

Saying it's simple and where the plays can be found isn't diminishing the aspects of tempo and coaching the players into executing the correct plays. The use of "tempo" isn't a difficult concept either: Sudden change. Whether it's a chunk play or a turnover, you go up tempo, shock and fury. There is no magic formula. Sort of like when Drink when be running and calling an efficient game with Zac in rhythm then randomly call an ave formation reverse to the slot back then go right back to the shotgun. To me, it defeats the purpose to run "trick plays" out of formations that you only use for trick plays. Run trick plays out of your base formations for obvious reasons.

Another thing Drink seems to like is advanced analytics. He talks about average possessions per game, has measurements for plays that gain specific yardage and their impact on efficiency, etc. How you implement what you gain in knowledge from data is as important as the data itself.

Regardless, my comments were not a slight about Drinks ability to coach. Obviously that takes what I explained to another level. But he isn't some Lincoln Riley type who will design an original offense tailored to whomever he has on hand.

BREAKING NEWS: The next multi million dollar coach is on Yosef's Cabin!!!!

Let me guess -- you think building cutting edge technology is just writing some code, making good movies is just reading a script, and hitting a baseball is just about swinging the bat? All just so easy!

Whether you like it or not, Drink is an offensive guru. I personally don't think he will do that well at Mizzou because I think he will have issues building a winning culture. But it will have nothing to do with his offensive mind.

I'm not sure that I'd equate writing computer code to developing an offensive play sheet. I'm not sure I'd compare writing code for newer technologies to anything football related, really.

But if you didn't go to the link to see the plays analyzed, you don't know what I'm referring to. His concepts aren't those of a guru. His play design isn't that of a genius. Its advanced for college in the sense that having the players to run the offense is going to be more difficult than the offense itself is to understand. However it's exactly as he described, "Pro with some Tempo". Basically it's a spread offense with pro style passing concepts. He also has a dive play to use sometimes.

Drink's problem at Mizzou won't necessarily be offense but that his players with, for the first time in a while, be at such an athletic disadvantage that the generic offense he runs will likely be exposed in the SEC. App's talent is criminally underrated and the players should be given far more credit for execution of a generic, but slightly more advanced, offense.

Not pretending to be a $4 million coach. I think he's going to have trouble going up against teams with more advanced defensive coaching staffs though, particularly those with NFL experience (and the NFL is where I think Drink is gunning for).

[AppSt94]

I don't know that he is an offensive genius. I really don't like that term because it doesn't exist. There are some guys who are ahead of the curve for their age, like Lincoln Riley and probably Drinkwitz. Hoping the Riley - Football connection is real.

A Mizzou message board did a breakdown of Drinks play calling along with play diagrams. The more I look at it, the more it looks like Drink took his plays from NCAA 14. I've run each one of the plays that they go over ad nauseum in that game and throughout the years in Madden. It isn't some difficult concept to understand from a coaching and play development standpoint. The hard part is getting a QB who can execute, an offensive line who can sustain blocks, and a wide receivers corp who will work on their route development until their legs fall off.

Otherwise, it's almost exactly like playing a game. He runs the same patterns but flips the play based on down and situation. Will flip the play as an audible where receivers change their routes and depth. It's nothing genius or earth shattering. Just effective game planning and execution. That's why the players aren't concerned that he left. His play book is generic.

Take a gander Film Room: Drinkquitz

If it was that easy, why aren't you making $4 mil a year? Sure, we've all ran those plays in video games. But knowing when, how, the tempo, the variations, etc is the hard part.

I mean hell, I've won a couple championships in NCAAF 14, so I wonder why Alabama hasn't called me yet.

As I stated, the hard part is on coaching the plays to make them work. I guess you glossed over that part?

My point was to say that he isn't some offensive genius. Genius, in my mind, implies originality. There is nothing original in his play calling, game planning, or development of a program. He may be a quality coach and ahead of the curve, as far as his age is concerned, but he's simply running pro concepts in the passing game.

Saying it's simple and where the plays can be found isn't diminishing the aspects of tempo and coaching the players into executing the correct plays. The use of "tempo" isn't a difficult concept either: Sudden change. Whether it's a chunk play or a turnover, you go up tempo, shock and fury. There is no magic formula. Sort of like when Drink when be running and calling an efficient game with Zac in rhythm then randomly call an ave formation reverse to the slot back then go right back to the shotgun. To me, it defeats the purpose to run "trick plays" out of formations that you only use for trick plays. Run trick plays out of your base formations for obvious reasons.

Another thing Drink seems to like is advanced analytics. He talks about average possessions per game, has measurements for plays that gain specific yardage and their impact on efficiency, etc. How you implement what you gain in knowledge from data is as important as the data itself.

Regardless, my comments were not a slight about Drinks ability to coach. Obviously that takes what I explained to another level. But he isn't some Lincoln Riley type who will design an original offense tailored to whomever he has on hand.

BREAKING NEWS: The next multi million dollar coach is on Yosef's Cabin!!!!

Let me guess -- you think building cutting edge technology is just writing some code, making good movies is just reading a script, and hitting a baseball is just about swinging the bat? All just so easy!

Whether you like it or not, Drink is an offensive guru. I personally don't think he will do that well at Mizzou because I think he will have issues building a winning culture. But it will have nothing to do with his offensive mind.

I'm not sure that I'd equate writing computer code to developing an offensive play sheet. I'm not sure I'd compare writing code for newer technologies to anything football related, really.

But if you didn't go to the link to see the plays analyzed, you don't know what I'm referring to. His concepts aren't those of a guru. His play design isn't that of a genius. Its advanced for college in the sense that having the players to run the offense is going to be more difficult than the offense itself is to understand. However it's exactly as he described, "Pro with some Tempo". Basically it's a spread offense with pro style passing concepts. He also has a dive play to use sometimes.

Drink's problem at Mizzou won't necessarily be offense but that his players with, for the first time in a while, be at such an athletic disadvantage that the generic offense he runs will likely be exposed in the SEC. App's talent is criminally underrated and the players should be given far more credit for execution of a generic, but slightly more advanced, offense.

Not pretending to be a $4 million coach. I think he's going to have trouble going up against teams with more advanced defensive coaching staffs though, particularly those with NFL experience (and the NFL is where I think Drink is gunning for).

With all of your Monday morning analysis and copious mounts of film study, why aren’t you making 7 figure coin as a coach? If Vanilla gets us 13-1 every year, I’ll take it.

[Rekdiver]

94. Regardless of how we view the posts of others, let’s vow to leave personal criticisms out of our responses for 2020.

[AppSt94]

The route premise of a play design, from an offensive perspective, isn’t to be flashy. They are designed to put defenders in conflict. A seam route only works because another offensive player is put into a position to pull a defender away from a responsibility. So while you are looking at the ball, you are missing what really happened to make that play possible.

[BeauFoster]

Ethan reports that Dale Jones is at the game, supporting the Apps. I’m sure that has NOTHING to do with potential coaching vacancies.

[Ozzies]

^ Don’t be so sure. He didn’t want to leave. That was Drinks call, not his

[The Rock]

^ Don’t be so sure. He didn’t want to leave. That was Drinks call, not his

Wasn’t really drinks call. Jones and Ivey demanded multi-year contracts. I understand why they did, and I understand why drink didn’t want this.
Hope we get get him back because he is a great coach and person, but saying it was drinks call isn’t completely accurate

[Ozzies]

As always there’s two sides to every story. I’ve only heard Dales side

[proasu89]

^ Don’t be so sure. He didn’t want to leave. That was Drinks call, not his

*sarcasm*

[AppSt94]

As always there’s two sides to every story. I’ve only heard Dales side

Dale needs three years as a state employ to get full pension. That was the reason for asking for a three year contract. Not unreasonable of a request but unheard of for a position coach.

[appfan1991]

Are there any solid leads / names for Clark's new staff floating around?

[AppinATL]

94. Regardless of how we view the posts of others, let’s vow to leave personal criticisms out of our responses for 2020.

Thats a big ask with so many blowhards running around here.

[AppSt94]

Are there any solid leads / names for Clark's new staff floating around?

Other than Jones? Not really. He has his staff in mind and has probably got some handshake agreements in place, but I wouldn’t expect much until after NY in terms of an announcement. I believe that he is taking some much deserved time off.