Coastal -4.5

[Black Saturday]

Can anyone post or report to us on the SP+ rankings/ratings?

I cannot get to the bottom of the ESPN article showing where App is. I'm pretty sure App is ranked above Coastal. IMO, SP+ is one of the best predictors of the result of the game.

Not sure we are much on radar so far. Just heard Todd Blackledge G5 report on ESPN Radio. Talked about how good G5 has become and need their on playoff, because they arent getting in P5. Mentioned Cincy-UCF game, Liberty-Coastal undefeateds matchup on 12-5, Undefeated Marshall, ULLLLLLL 7-1, Coastal playing 4 time Sun Belt defending champ APP, San Jose St, no praise for APP-maybe rightfully so?

[yosef69]

Up to +6 now. Bulletin board material.

Game total at 48.5. Hang it up in tony petersens office and in every locker.

[biggie]

If it comes out that Zac isn't playing it will jump a lot. But we probably won't announce either way before game day.

[AppStFan1]

If it comes out that Zac isn't playing it will jump a lot. But we probably won't announce either way before game day.

Clark should be secretive about it either way and make everyone on the team keep quiet on it. We should not give CCU a break with knowing who the QB will be.

[AppStFan1]

Up to +6 now. Bulletin board material.

Game total at 48.5. Hang it up in tony petersens office and in every locker.

With the doubt on our QB situation I would expect it to keep going up in favor of CCU. People who gamble probably feel like CCU would have won by 3-7 anyway and now without our QB I would bet that many gamblers feel like CCU by 13 or more now.

[BambooRdApp]

First let me say I hope zt heals up quickly. On a human level we all want him healthy and ok. From a football perspective I am intrigued by huesman playing Saturday. Our offense has been pretty stagnant and yes playcalling is suspect but one bigger issue has been the lack of urgency and fire. I like disciplined football. I’m not suggesting personal antics. I am hoping for more energy out of the offense. I’ve said all year Thomas is playing like he’s at a quarterback camp. Average numbers and mostly just posing. Not saying he doesn’t care but his body language is flat and has been for a while. I watched the coastal qb couple times and and even the Charlotte qb and those kids are getting everything they can out of their ability and it shows. I want more of that from our qb and hopefully we’ll see it Saturday.

Hmmm, what is ZT's record? I believe he is getting every out of his ability. IMO, the offensive play calling is the fundamental reason for offensive woes. Not saying it is solely OC fault as I am not in the locker room. Maybe the loss of a great running back of an NFL caliber has impacted the productivity. If this case, our offensive line has been overrated the past few years. Hope not. Maybe Anderson and Sutton being out is impacting team productivity. Hope this is not the case either. Good teams lose players to graduation or injury and are able to step up as the pipeline of of recruits should fill in if recruiting has been devent.... Maybe exception is losing a talented QB unless you are a QB U....

[Black Saturday]

First let me say I hope zt heals up quickly. On a human level we all want him healthy and ok. From a football perspective I am intrigued by huesman playing Saturday. Our offense has been pretty stagnant and yes playcalling is suspect but one bigger issue has been the lack of urgency and fire. I like disciplined football. I’m not suggesting personal antics. I am hoping for more energy out of the offense. I’ve said all year Thomas is playing like he’s at a quarterback camp. Average numbers and mostly just posing. Not saying he doesn’t care but his body language is flat and has been for a while. I watched the coastal qb couple times and and even the Charlotte qb and those kids are getting everything they can out of their ability and it shows. I want more of that from our qb and hopefully we’ll see it Saturday.

Hmmm, what is ZT's record? I believe he is getting every out of his ability. IMO, the offensive play calling is the fundamental reason for offensive woes. Not saying it is solely OC fault as I am not in the locker room. Maybe the loss of a great running back of an NFL caliber has impacted the productivity. If this case, our offensive line has been overrated the past few years. Hope not. Maybe Anderson and Sutton being out is impacting team productivity. Hope this is not the case either. Good teams lose players to graduation or injury and are able to step up as the pipeline of of recruits should fill in if recruiting has been devent.... Maybe exception is losing a talented QB unless you are a QB U....

According to this board we've had great recruiting every year, every year...sure hope it shows Saturday. For the fiftieth time, the play calling sucked, whoever it was, Only Herschal Walker could have done well taking on 5-6 tacklers.
Coastal up to -6.5 I'll eat crow if we win, don't see it offensively based on last Saturday.

[huskie3]

I say list Zac as day-to-day, forcing costal to have to prepare for both.

[WASU 93]

Can anyone post or report to us on the SP+ rankings/ratings?

I cannot get to the bottom of the ESPN article showing where App is. I'm pretty sure App is ranked above Coastal. IMO, SP+ is one of the best predictors of the result of the game.

App State #28 10.3 Overall Rating Offense 33.0 (#36) Defense 22.6 (#29) Special Teams -0.1 (#80)
Coastal #37 6.6 Overall Rating Offense 33.7 (#30) Defense 27.3 (#60) Special Teams 0.1 (#26)

[Seattleapp]

First let me say I hope zt heals up quickly. On a human level we all want him healthy and ok. From a football perspective I am intrigued by huesman playing Saturday. Our offense has been pretty stagnant and yes playcalling is suspect but one bigger issue has been the lack of urgency and fire. I like disciplined football. I’m not suggesting personal antics. I am hoping for more energy out of the offense. I’ve said all year Thomas is playing like he’s at a quarterback camp. Average numbers and mostly just posing. Not saying he doesn’t care but his body language is flat and has been for a while. I watched the coastal qb couple times and and even the Charlotte qb and those kids are getting everything they can out of their ability and it shows. I want more of that from our qb and hopefully we’ll see it Saturday.

Hmmm, what is ZT's record? I believe he is getting every out of his ability. IMO, the offensive play calling is the fundamental reason for offensive woes. Not saying it is solely OC fault as I am not in the locker room. Maybe the loss of a great running back of an NFL caliber has impacted the productivity. If this case, our offensive line has been overrated the past few years. Hope not. Maybe Anderson and Sutton being out is impacting team productivity. Hope this is not the case either. Good teams lose players to graduation or injury and are able to step up as the pipeline of of recruits should fill in if recruiting has been devent.... Maybe exception is losing a talented QB unless you are a QB U....

I really can’t understand why ZT is so hands off. He’s been incredibly average this year. I was at the Marshall game. I watched it. He played poorly. Stared down receivers, made poor passes and poor decisions. We’re 6-1 and that’s great. But it’s not in any large part because of his play. IMO We don’t win last week if he stays in. The guy is passing for like 165 yards a game. In the first half he was averaging 3.4 ypp. I acknowledged the play calling as a big culprit. But from a 5th year quarteback, I expect a little shoulder carry every once in a while and you expect your stars to shine brightest on the biggest stage. The good thing is the season isn’t over and I’ll root like hell for him and congratulate when he plays well. But if he’s gonna get the credit he should also get a little critique when he’s not performing well. More than anything I just want him so seem like he is fired up to win the game. He looked pretty disinterested last week.

[bcoach]

If ZT is not ready 7 will be. Defense will be stellar. Coastal is over hyped. Have beaten exactly 2 teams with winning records.

[t4pizza]

Sadly, ZT's play on the field seems to have regressed rather than progressed over the years. He does seem to stare down his receiver, not go through progressions, force throws and in general he has just shown bad decision making in games. I would have expected those types of mistakes in his first year as a starter not in his third. Something is off and I hope he can get healthy and regain his form because we all know the type of quarterback he can be.

[bcoach]

First let me say I hope zt heals up quickly. On a human level we all want him healthy and ok. From a football perspective I am intrigued by huesman playing Saturday. Our offense has been pretty stagnant and yes playcalling is suspect but one bigger issue has been the lack of urgency and fire. I like disciplined football. I’m not suggesting personal antics. I am hoping for more energy out of the offense. I’ve said all year Thomas is playing like he’s at a quarterback camp. Average numbers and mostly just posing. Not saying he doesn’t care but his body language is flat and has been for a while. I watched the coastal qb couple times and and even the Charlotte qb and those kids are getting everything they can out of their ability and it shows. I want more of that from our qb and hopefully we’ll see it Saturday.

Hmmm, what is ZT's record? I believe he is getting every out of his ability. IMO, the offensive play calling is the fundamental reason for offensive woes. Not saying it is solely OC fault as I am not in the locker room. Maybe the loss of a great running back of an NFL caliber has impacted the productivity. If this case, our offensive line has been overrated the past few years. Hope not. Maybe Anderson and Sutton being out is impacting team productivity. Hope this is not the case either. Good teams lose players to graduation or injury and are able to step up as the pipeline of of recruits should fill in if recruiting has been devent.... Maybe exception is losing a talented QB unless you are a QB U....

I really can’t understand why ZT is so hands off. He’s been incredibly average this year. I was at the Marshall game. I watched it. He played poorly. Stared down receivers, made poor passes and poor decisions. We’re 6-1 and that’s great. But it’s not in any large part because of his play. IMO We don’t win last week if he stays in. The guy is passing for like 165 yards a game. In the first half he was averaging 3.4 ypp. I acknowledged the play calling as a big culprit. But from a 5th year quarteback, I expect a little shoulder carry every once in a while and you expect your stars to shine brightest on the biggest stage. The good thing is the season isn’t over and I’ll root like hell for him and congratulate when he plays well. But if he’s gonna get the credit he should also get a little critique when he’s not performing well. More than anything I just want him so seem like he is fired up to win the game. He looked pretty disinterested last week.

Something is wrong for sure. He just isn't the ZT we all know and love.

[BambooRdApp]

First let me say I hope zt heals up quickly. On a human level we all want him healthy and ok. From a football perspective I am intrigued by huesman playing Saturday. Our offense has been pretty stagnant and yes playcalling is suspect but one bigger issue has been the lack of urgency and fire. I like disciplined football. I’m not suggesting personal antics. I am hoping for more energy out of the offense. I’ve said all year Thomas is playing like he’s at a quarterback camp. Average numbers and mostly just posing. Not saying he doesn’t care but his body language is flat and has been for a while. I watched the coastal qb couple times and and even the Charlotte qb and those kids are getting everything they can out of their ability and it shows. I want more of that from our qb and hopefully we’ll see it Saturday.

Hmmm, what is ZT's record? I believe he is getting every out of his ability. IMO, the offensive play calling is the fundamental reason for offensive woes. Not saying it is solely OC fault as I am not in the locker room. Maybe the loss of a great running back of an NFL caliber has impacted the productivity. If this case, our offensive line has been overrated the past few years. Hope not. Maybe Anderson and Sutton being out is impacting team productivity. Hope this is not the case either. Good teams lose players to graduation or injury and are able to step up as the pipeline of of recruits should fill in if recruiting has been devent.... Maybe exception is losing a talented QB unless you are a QB U....

I really can’t understand why ZT is so hands off. He’s been incredibly average this year. I was at the Marshall game. I watched it. He played poorly. Stared down receivers, made poor passes and poor decisions. We’re 6-1 and that’s great. But it’s not in any large part because of his play. IMO We don’t win last week if he stays in. The guy is passing for like 165 yards a game. In the first half he was averaging 3.4 ypp. I acknowledged the play calling as a big culprit. But from a 5th year quarteback, I expect a little shoulder carry every once in a while and you expect your stars to shine brightest on the biggest stage. The good thing is the season isn’t over and I’ll root like hell for him and congratulate when he plays well. But if he’s gonna get the credit he should also get a little critique when he’s not performing well. More than anything I just want him so seem like he is fired up to win the game. He looked pretty disinterested last week.

I am not saying ZT is off limits. I have watched every game. For the Marshall game, the passing game plan appeared to be pass down the sideline and hope our receivers win 50/50. That to me is the play call. Even the touchdown was down sideline. Not until second half did it seem the paying calling attempted to find a few routes in middle of field including the TE pass that ended up being fumbled. Is ZT the blame for anemic running gane given the preseason notoriety that the OL was getting. I think not. I do not see roll out pass plays, bootleg rollout for pass plays, true read run/Pass options or a traditional play run action pass plays. The mentality in the passing game is a drop back or from the gun and let receivers attempt to get open. I, myself, do not believe this is ZTs strength as a pass large majority of the time. It makes it easy to blitz if no creativity. My response was more to ZT not giving his all or showing emotion. I believe he does in his own way. On runs, he tends to to be fiery after a long run. Although it the way I would have handled it... After run in first half last week he back flipped the ball pretty hard into a GA St. player. GA St player threw it back at ZT. Not saying ZT did it on purpose.

[clemmonsapp]

Sorry to say it again, but our offense has taken a huge step backward. The "this is what we do, stop us" philosophy went out the window at Middle Tennessee and won't work now. If Nebraska can't do it we can't.

ZT looks bad because our run first (only?) offense includes incredibly unsophisticated passing options. If we are truly holding our cards and playing vanilla like some of you state it is malpractice.

Saying CC hasn't beaten teams with winning records is a joke. The teams we have beaten are terrible and we have looked only marginally better.

For those who questioned Drinkwitz' ability based on how stacked our team was last year, you are seeing how much coaching can impact even a stacked team. This team has incredible offensive talent.

I really want Shawn to succeed, but what happened to "Bombs over Baghdad"?

We will see an offense with the imagination or offenses have had the last few years on Saturday. I hope we can give our defense enough rest to keep them fresh and keep us in the game.

[MtnMan09]

I was underwhelmed when Clark announced his staff and I think we seeing the effects of those selections. Nothing like the quality selections made by Satt and Drink. The play calling, especially on the offensive side of the ball, has been horrific. But I am equally as worried that our guys never seem motivated, engaged, our ready to get after it. Do we not have someone capable of doing that on this staff. This was especially apparent in the Marshall game and in just about every game save for Ark State. Its a huge problem and something that has not been an issue on our teams since the last few JM coached squads before our move up.

People forget this was supposed to be "the best app team ever." Then we struggled mightily with a team Coastal beat 51-0. No amount of black and gold glasses can explain that a way to me like some would like to do.

[bcoach]

Sorry to say it again, but our offense has taken a huge step backward. The "this is what we do, stop us" philosophy went out the window at Middle Tennessee and won't work now. If Nebraska can't do it we can't.

ZT looks bad because our run first (only?) offense includes incredibly unsophisticated passing options. If we are truly holding our cards and playing vanilla like some of you state it is malpractice.

Saying CC hasn't beaten teams with winning records is a joke. The teams we have beaten are terrible and we have looked only marginally better.

For those who questioned Drinkwitz' ability based on how stacked our team was last year, you are seeing how much coaching can impact even a stacked team. This team has incredible offensive talent.

I really want Shawn to succeed, but what happened to "Bombs over Baghdad"?

We will see an offense with the imagination or offenses have had the last few years on Saturday. I hope we can give our defense enough rest to keep them fresh and keep us in the game.

"Saying CC hasn't beaten teams with winning records is a joke. The teams we have beaten are terrible and we have looked only marginally better."

It is far from a joke. They have beaten exactly two teams with winning records. That has nothing to do with who we have or have not beaten. They are good but they are way over hyped plain and simple. If we get someone else to call the plays, whoever is QB gets some gidyup in their step and gets excited about being there, and the team stops treating the sidline like a funeral home, we can certainly win that gave without a problem. If all three of those things don't happen we will have our second loss.

[AppAlum1]

If ZT is not ready 7 will be. Defense will be stellar. Coastal is over hyped. Have beaten exactly 2 teams with winning records.

I agree with bcoach.

[Boroneer10]

Someone tell Clark to throw the damn ball. He’s so damn enamored with just running stretch zone. It doesn’t work if it’s all you do. That quote of his about it being like making bread is annoying because it makes me think that no matter what happens, he thinks “working the dough” a little more will fix the offense.

[Boroneer10]

Someone tell Clark to throw the damn ball. He’s so damn enamored with just running stretch zone. It doesn’t work if it’s all you do. That quote of his about it being like making bread is annoying because it makes me think that no matter what happens, he thinks “working the dough” a little more will fix the offense.

For those that don’t remember.