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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by Boonegoon » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:27 pm

Rick83 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:43 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 pm
I just wanna go on record well before kick-off that I believe, IF we don't turn the ball over at crucial times which has been an issue this year...we're gonna beat Coastal whether number 12 OR 7 is on the field...I have total confidence in both.
Not providing CC with a game opening complimentary TD would be helpful too. :)
LOL...I agree but that seems to be our MO. Along with the bend but don't break mentality on defense which does not help my blood pressure or the mood in my house when watching from home...
No joke! The near constant achievement of 3rd and long by our opponents is maddening!

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by Boroneer10 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:22 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:04 am
Boroneer10 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:44 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:16 pm
Boroneer10 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:12 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:11 pm
Sadly, ZT's play on the field seems to have regressed rather than progressed over the years. He does seem to stare down his receiver, not go through progressions, force throws and in general he has just shown bad decision making in games. I would have expected those types of mistakes in his first year as a starter not in his third. Something is off and I hope he can get healthy and regain his form because we all know the type of quarterback he can be.
Lol are we seriously back to this nonsense criticism of ZT? Give me a break.
So you think he’s playing at a high level?
66% completion percentage, 7.7 YPA, 12 TDs/ 5 Ints only 23 attempts a game. Yeah that looks good to me. Maybe we should actually let our senior QB throw the ball some instead of this three yards and a cloud of dust stuff?
You subtract Arkansas state and those stats go way down. I don’t know why that game went the way it did and we could argue all day about who’s to blame. I suspect there’s some on both sides. I know we are run first but just throwing this out there. Maybe the coaches don’t have confidence in Thomas successfully making consistent vertical passes? Just a thought. All I know is our passing game is the definition of average
You want to remove the best game from a 7 game sample and think that makes your point?

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:55 pm

Boroneer10 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:22 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:04 am
Boroneer10 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:44 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:16 pm
Boroneer10 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:12 pm


Lol are we seriously back to this nonsense criticism of ZT? Give me a break.
So you think he’s playing at a high level?
66% completion percentage, 7.7 YPA, 12 TDs/ 5 Ints only 23 attempts a game. Yeah that looks good to me. Maybe we should actually let our senior QB throw the ball some instead of this three yards and a cloud of dust stuff?
You subtract Arkansas state and those stats go way down. I don’t know why that game went the way it did and we could argue all day about who’s to blame. I suspect there’s some on both sides. I know we are run first but just throwing this out there. Maybe the coaches don’t have confidence in Thomas successfully making consistent vertical passes? Just a thought. All I know is our passing game is the definition of average
You want to remove the best game from a 7 game sample and think that makes your point?
Agree that makes zero sense. Every game counts. The argument that we have only beaten one good team is dumb as well. You can only play the teams on your schedule- worn out expression but always true. The current top 3 teams in the country for offensive YPG are UCF, Kent State and North Texas. The top teams as far as defensive YPG are Wisconsin (2 games), San Diego State, Washington (1 game) and Marshall. What do those rankings mean? Zip. All that matters is 6-1 for us.

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by ASU_Victory_Lap » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:46 pm

App91 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:04 am
MAD Doctor wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:59 am
When you are a running team, you have to be able to run. The O line has to step up and quit getting pushed around, as they did against Marshall and Ga. State. And, it is past time for a breakout game from Peoples. Saturday would be a good time.150 and no fumbles from Cam and suddenly, ZT is a lot better quarterback.


Just as an observation, i have noticed our RB's dancing around a bit in the backfield. This is probably due to an OLineman being in their lap. Also noticed that was not the case on the final 2 drives, The TD and the one to put it away. Cam for sure is a beast when he hits the hole with purpose.
The Camerun Peoples on that last drive was the real one and not the imposter we’ve seen pop up several times this season. He’s fantastic when he’s on it. I wonder if this rotating cast of rb’s isn’t letting guys get into a rhythm.

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by Black Saturday » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:03 pm

ASU_Victory_Lap wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:46 pm
App91 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:04 am
MAD Doctor wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:59 am
When you are a running team, you have to be able to run. The O line has to step up and quit getting pushed around, as they did against Marshall and Ga. State. And, it is past time for a breakout game from Peoples. Saturday would be a good time.150 and no fumbles from Cam and suddenly, ZT is a lot better quarterback.


Just as an observation, i have noticed our RB's dancing around a bit in the backfield. This is probably due to an OLineman being in their lap. Also noticed that was not the case on the final 2 drives, The TD and the one to put it away. Cam for sure is a beast when he hits the hole with purpose.
The Camerun Peoples on that last drive was the real one and not the imposter we’ve seen pop up several times this season. He’s fantastic when he’s on it. I wonder if this rotating cast of rb’s isn’t letting guys get into a rhythm.
I've had the same thought.
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by appstate77 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:16 pm

Apparently when Peoples is the guy he will fill the trenches made by the road graders up front.

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by NewApp » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:21 pm

Boroneer10 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:56 pm
Someone tell Clark to throw the damn ball. He’s so damn enamored with just running stretch zone. It doesn’t work if it’s all you do. That quote of his about it being like making bread is annoying because it makes me think that no matter what happens, he thinks “working the dough” a little more will fix the offense.
Perhaps if we could recruit in the middle of the season (which oif course we can't) and find some kids who could block consistently and find some receivers who didn't get hurt constantly and could actually catch the ball consistently, Z would have more success passing and Clark would call more passing plays. Z is mostly the same as last year, it's just that injuries to other players, etc has made him look sukky. He's not. He's one of the best we ever had.
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by App91 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:43 pm

Boroneer10 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:56 pm
Someone tell Clark to throw the damn ball. He’s so damn enamored with just running stretch zone. It doesn’t work if it’s all you do. That quote of his about it being like making bread is annoying because it makes me think that no matter what happens, he thinks “working the dough” a little more will fix the offense.
Sorry man, hate to burst your bubble, but we have been a running team since Jerry Moore got here and probably before. Dont let the "spread" option fool you, we are a run heavy team

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by Seattleapp » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:55 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:55 pm
Boroneer10 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:22 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:04 am
Boroneer10 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:44 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:16 pm


So you think he’s playing at a high level?
66% completion percentage, 7.7 YPA, 12 TDs/ 5 Ints only 23 attempts a game. Yeah that looks good to me. Maybe we should actually let our senior QB throw the ball some instead of this three yards and a cloud of dust stuff?
You subtract Arkansas state and those stats go way down. I don’t know why that game went the way it did and we could argue all day about who’s to blame. I suspect there’s some on both sides. I know we are run first but just throwing this out there. Maybe the coaches don’t have confidence in Thomas successfully making consistent vertical passes? Just a thought. All I know is our passing game is the definition of average
You want to remove the best game from a 7 game sample and think that makes your point?
Agree that makes zero sense. Every game counts. The argument that we have only beaten one good team is dumb as well. You can only play the teams on your schedule- worn out expression but always true. The current top 3 teams in the country for offensive YPG are UCF, Kent State and North Texas. The top teams as far as defensive YPG are Wisconsin (2 games), San Diego State, Washington (1 game) and Marshall. What do those rankings mean? Zip. All that matters is 6-1 for us.

So let me see if I understand this. A player has one standout game and several average game and two terrible games and we are not supposed to look at each performance? Let me put it a different way. A running back has 600 yards per game over 6 games but got 300 of them versus one opponent with a weak running defense. Is the argument he’s having a great year averaging 100 yards per game an accurate statement or did he have one good game that inflated his overall stats?

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by NewApp » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 pm
I just wanna go on record well before kick-off that I believe, IF we don't turn the ball over at crucial times which has been an issue this year...we're gonna beat Coastal whether number 12 OR 7 is on the field...I have total confidence in both.
Not providing CC with a game opening complimentary TD would be helpful too. :)
Just wondering, WM, do you ever have anything positive to say about our team, coaches, or performance win or lose?
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by WataugaMan » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:04 pm

NewApp wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 pm
I just wanna go on record well before kick-off that I believe, IF we don't turn the ball over at crucial times which has been an issue this year...we're gonna beat Coastal whether number 12 OR 7 is on the field...I have total confidence in both.
Not providing CC with a game opening complimentary TD would be helpful too. :)
Just wondering, WM, do you ever have anything positive to say about our team, coaches, or performance win or lose?
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by NewApp » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:53 am

WataugaMan wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:04 pm
NewApp wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 pm
I just wanna go on record well before kick-off that I believe, IF we don't turn the ball over at crucial times which has been an issue this year...we're gonna beat Coastal whether number 12 OR 7 is on the field...I have total confidence in both.
Not providing CC with a game opening complimentary TD would be helpful too. :)
Just wondering, WM, do you ever have anything positive to say about our team, coaches, or performance win or lose?
:roll:
Roll eyes? Do you ever read your own posts :?: You post one positive post about every 20. No lie. And no exaggeration.
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by WataugaMan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:54 am

NewApp wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:53 am
WataugaMan wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:04 pm
NewApp wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 pm
I just wanna go on record well before kick-off that I believe, IF we don't turn the ball over at crucial times which has been an issue this year...we're gonna beat Coastal whether number 12 OR 7 is on the field...I have total confidence in both.
Not providing CC with a game opening complimentary TD would be helpful too. :)
Just wondering, WM, do you ever have anything positive to say about our team, coaches, or performance win or lose?
:roll:
Roll eyes? Do you ever read your own posts :?: You post one positive post about every 20. No lie. And no exaggeration.
What does this make Cline, the second or third personnel attack you've made this week. Most everyone has you figured out by now and realize it's just best to ignore you. Then again in a strange way, you are quite entertaining at times. :lol:

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Re: Coastal -4.5

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by NewApp » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:24 am

WataugaMan wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:54 am
NewApp wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:53 am
WataugaMan wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:04 pm
NewApp wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:30 pm


Not providing CC with a game opening complimentary TD would be helpful too. :)
Just wondering, WM, do you ever have anything positive to say about our team, coaches, or performance win or lose?
:roll:
Roll eyes? Do you ever read your own posts :?: You post one positive post about every 20. No lie. And no exaggeration.
What does this make Cline, the second or third personnel attack you've made this week. Most everyone has you figured out by now and realize it's just best to ignore you. Then again in a strange way, you are quite entertaining at times. :lol:
What's a personnel attack? Rolls eyes. If you and everyone else has me on ignore, how did you read and respond to my post?. Rolls eyes. And thank you for calling me Cline. As I've said a zillion times prior, that's my father's name and I'm proud of it. Thanks again. Good day and Go Apps.

Oh, and where are my other two or three negative posts this week? Just asking.
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by WataugaMan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:32 am

I didn't say I had you on ignore, I try to ignore what you write for obvious reasons. It appears you're the one that has a problem with what I write. Therefore, put me on ignore and your problem is solved. Then again I guess not, apparently you live to stir the pot.

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by NewApp » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:39 am

WataugaMan wrote:
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I didn't say I had you on ignore, I try to ignore what you write for obvious reasons. It appears you're the one that has a problem with what I write. Therefore, put me on ignore and your problem is solved. Then again I guess not, apparently you live to stir the pot.
1. Nope, don't love to stir the pot.Just love to take up for all the people (coaches, players, refs, fans, admin) who are criticized by people who know very little about who or what they are critiquing. Now, answer my questions if you can. Rolls eyes

2. An no, I won't put you on ignore. You're too easy. Just love it when you deflect.

Now, as I said, have a good day.
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by WataugaMan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:46 am

NewApp wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:39 am
WataugaMan wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:32 am
I didn't say I had you on ignore, I try to ignore what you write for obvious reasons. It appears you're the one that has a problem with what I write. Therefore, put me on ignore and your problem is solved. Then again I guess not, apparently you live to stir the pot.
1. Nope, don't love to stir the pot.Just love to take up for all the people (coaches, players, refs, fans, admin) who are criticized by people who know very little about who or what they are critiquing. Now, answer my questions if you can. Rolls eyes

2. An no, I won't put you on ignore. You're too easy. Just love it when you deflect.

Now, as I said, have a good day.
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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:01 am

As far as the spread goes...back to the topic attempt. If defensive stats mean anything the teams CCU has beaten so far in terms of defensive ranking YPG-

Kansas- 107
Arky- 112
UL- 41
Ga St- 91
USA- 68
Stink- 21

Stink lost 28-14 but gave up a long punt return for a short field and a quick score.

La threw a PIC deep in their end of the field and allowed a short field also.

Both of those close games determined by bad special teams and turnovers.

Now App- highest ranked defense CCU will have faced. If we continue with the 3 man rush we won’t win as the back 8 will give up chunks. Onus is on our DC big time as well as some creativity on offense. Should be a 3 point game either way. Can’t wait

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Re: Coastal -4.5

Unread post by App90 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:47 am

bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:01 am
As far as the spread goes...back to the topic attempt. If defensive stats mean anything the teams CCU has beaten so far in terms of defensive ranking YPG-

Kansas- 107
Arky- 112
UL- 41
Ga St- 91
USA- 68
Stink- 21

Stink lost 28-14 but gave up a long punt return for a short field and a quick score.

La threw a PIC deep in their end of the field and allowed a short field also.

Both of those close games determined by bad special teams and turnovers.

Now App- highest ranked defense CCU will have faced. If we continue with the 3 man rush we won’t win as the back 8 will give up chunks. Onus is on our DC big time as well as some creativity on offense. Should be a 3 point game either way. Can’t wait
CCU thrives against zone defenses, and their movement makes your back 8 make mistakes. Its assignment football. Peek in the backfield and your guy could run right by you. Their system is meant to beat you with your aggressiveness. That is what happened to Georgia Southern along with a mistake on special teams. ULL well they just beat themselves with turnovers. South Alabama moved the ball on them but just could not finish 3 drives. Against Georgia State well they were just confused. App State will have to make CCU throw the ball out sooner and not give their QB a lot of time to read his progressions. My concern is, will App States OL bring it. Blocks have to be made in this game. Especially on the inside read. If App State has to count on the outside zone read with the TE's it could be a long day as they will do like Marshall did and bring their safeties up to defend it because who will / can stretch the field on Saturday. If App State can beat them over the top a few times it will be interesting to see how their defense changes. Will be an interesting game.

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