Fall camp

[Black Saturday]

Anything above last year is improvement.

[AppSt94]

Vegas picks us to fight for the bottom of our division with 6.5 wins. Maybe we can prove them wrong.

The ESPN FPI says we will win 11 of 12.

I’m seeing 10 of 12. Wyoming and UNC are favored against us. But several games including Marshall, JMU, and Georgia State are essentially toss ups according to their percentages. 50.9% against Georgia State according to FPI I would hardly classify as saying we will win.

Side note ESPN fpi is crap lol

Yes several are toss up and anything with a +\- 5% to be such. Just stating what I saw and yea, you are correct in your assessment of the FPI.

[BUTCH1991]

9-3 (6-2)

[huskie3]

10-2

[MrCraig]

The board appears to have four camps:

- Clark was a bad/lazy hire

- Clark was a good hire, but results didn’t warrant an extension and we need results this year

- Clark was a good hire and at the time the extension was fine, maybe a stretch, but we need 8 wins this season and compete for the SBC title in 2024

- Deflectors - you guys just don’t understand all the issues that were out of Clark’s control

I think most are in the third camp with some between 3rd and 4th and 2-3 total in the first.

I think options 2 and 3 are perfectly healthy, acceptable positions. Most of the people in camps 1 and 4 are just completely unrealistic and/or refuse to face reality.
Now, if you want some real insanity. Go check out the comments on the Atlanta Braves blog, batterypower.com. Folks are calling for Brian Snitker's head because of some bad pitching decisions. Remember, this is the manager for literally the best team in MLB this year.
So, it can always be worse/crazier.

[EastHallApp]

Vegas picks us to fight for the bottom of our division with 6.5 wins. Maybe we can prove them wrong.

The ESPN FPI says we will win 11 of 12.

I’m seeing 10 of 12. Wyoming and UNC are favored against us. But several games including Marshall, JMU, and Georgia State are essentially toss ups according to their percentages. 50.9% against Georgia State according to FPI I would hardly classify as saying we will win.

Side note ESPN fpi is crap lol

Yeah, being ranked higher than 11 opponents (or 10, whatever) isn't the same as projecting that we'll go 11-1. In fact, FPI's projected record for us is 7-5. (Technically 7.1-5.2)

[Black Saturday]

Vegas picks us to fight for the bottom of our division with 6.5 wins. Maybe we can prove them wrong.

The ESPN FPI says we will win 11 of 12.

I’m seeing 10 of 12. Wyoming and UNC are favored against us. But several games including Marshall, JMU, and Georgia State are essentially toss ups according to their percentages. 50.9% against Georgia State according to FPI I would hardly classify as saying we will win.

Side note ESPN fpi is crap lol

Yeah, being ranked higher than 11 opponents (or 10, whatever) isn't the same as projecting that we'll go 11-1. In fact, FPI's projected record for us is 7-5. (Technically 7.1-5.2)

Elliott will win 1 the Sean/Shawn Bowls if given enough chances.

[biggie]

So hard for even a guess with so much unknown. Defense was as large issue last year and not sure if it has gotten better.

Granted while in Vegas a couple weeks ago I did have to put a little on us to get over 7 wins. But I also put money on the Cowboys to win the SB, so I'm a bit crazy.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Reading some of these observations and takes on the roster has me fired up. I looked at the current roster and am I wrong to say that we appear to have much bigger dudes in several positions? We seem to have a few linebackers in that 6'3"ish 230 pound range. I know we have had a couple over the last few years but it seems like we have gotten bigger there. Same for the offensive line- seeing several 6'5" close to 300 pound variety.

[AppDub]

After looking it up win total projectins

APP 6.5
Coastal 7.5
Marshall 7.5
Ga Southern 6.5
JMU 8.5

Based on stats in the past we are a good bet to surpass that and I don't see how we fall below 7 wins unless our QB play is awful. I personally think we could win between 8-10 games.

We fell below 7 wins last year with one of the best QB seasons App has seen. It’s possible, honestly think it’ll all depend on the defense again. If the defense is solid 8 wins is a good bet.

We probably could have had 8-9 wins last year with an average defense. The A&M win was incalculable. The JMU loss hurt. We really beat the 2 best teams in the conference last year in Troy and JMU considering the drama those 2 brought- should have been and could have been.

I agree with you. We also dropped a Carolina win when we were wide open, but the Troy Hail Mary was improbable so that's a push. Missed a FG to beat GaSo as well. A lot of that was on the defense, but our rushing game disappeared in several losses last year. 34 carries for 63 yards against JMU, 21 carries for 41 yards against Texas State, 27 carries for 88 yards against Coastal and 40 carries for 116 against Marshall. All 3.3 yards or less per carry and 5 or less rushing first downs in all four of those games, including 0 against Texas State. We also had a season high of 2 turnovers in ALL four of those games.

I think our running game rebounds this year and I LIKE the underdog role.

I agree with you on the running game rebound, especially with the addition of a true running threat at QB. Chase did the best he could with his legs last year, but this year's QB will be a notch above his running skill.

[Appmountaineers19]

So hard for even a guess with so much unknown. Defense was as large issue last year and not sure if it has gotten better.

Granted while in Vegas a couple weeks ago I did have to put a little on us to get over 7 wins. But I also put money on the Cowboys to win the SB, so I'm a bit crazy.

I'm an Eagles fan so take these with a grain of salt. I took the over 10 INT's for DAK in a prop bet and took another that the birds won't make the playoffs. Also took the over for 6.5 wins for APP

[MDaniels]

Didn't know where else to put this so here goes... Lots and lots of discussion about Coach Clark during this fall camp. Ran into a guy while vacationing down at Litchfield Beach this past week in SC. He saw my App shirt and struck up a conversation about Coach Clark. I told him that "we" (for the most part) really really want him to succeed but were disappointed in last season. He said that he totally got that. Interestingly, he went to high school with Shawn and graduated with his class in WV. He even sat next to him in home room as his last name was Clark as well (no relation I was told). He said that while in high school, they had one of the worst teams in the state while Shawn was there. However, he said that he had never seen anyone work as hard as Shawn did. Coach Clark's dad would have him dig a ditch and fill it back in to get ready for football season. All of this to say that the guy said that he talks with some of Shawn's family from time to time and they know how much he loves App and Coach Moore for giving him a shot. Nothing new necessarily but after talking with this guy, I'm pulling for Coach Clark more than ever.

[PhillyApp1]

So hard for even a guess with so much unknown. Defense was as large issue last year and not sure if it has gotten better.

Granted while in Vegas a couple weeks ago I did have to put a little on us to get over 7 wins. But I also put money on the Cowboys to win the SB, so I'm a bit crazy.

I'm an Eagles fan so take these with a grain of salt. I took the over 10 INT's for DAK in a prob bet and took another that the birds won't make the playoffs. Also took the over for 6.5 wins for APP

Smart man like myself
App and Eagles fan !!

[BambooRdApp]

So hard for even a guess with so much unknown. Defense was as large issue last year and not sure if it has gotten better.

Granted while in Vegas a couple weeks ago I did have to put a little on us to get over 7 wins. But I also put money on the Cowboys to win the SB, so I'm a bit crazy.

I'm an Eagles fan so take these with a grain of salt. I took the over 10 INT's for DAK in a prob bet and took another that the birds won't make the playoffs. Also took the over for 6.5 wins for APP

Smart man like myself
App and Eagles fan !!

I guess you all cannot be smart in choosing your teams all the time. At least you were smart in one case by choosing App..St.

[asumba95]

I see our floor as 7. Our ceiling is 11. I'll pick 9 with a SB East title.

The ceiling is the roof

[mike87]

Didn't know where else to put this so here goes... Lots and lots of discussion about Coach Clark during this fall camp. Ran into a guy while vacationing down at Litchfield Beach this past week in SC. He saw my App shirt and struck up a conversation about Coach Clark. I told him that "we" (for the most part) really really want him to succeed but were disappointed in last season. He said that he totally got that. Interestingly, he went to high school with Shawn and graduated with his class in WV. He even sat next to him in home room as his last name was Clark as well (no relation I was told). He said that while in high school, they had one of the worst teams in the state while Shawn was there. However, he said that he had never seen anyone work as hard as Shawn did. Coach Clark's dad would have him dig a ditch and fill it back in to get ready for football season. All of this to say that the guy said that he talks with some of Shawn's family from time to time and they know how much he loves App and Coach Moore for giving him a shot. Nothing new necessarily but after talking with this guy, I'm pulling for Coach Clark more than ever.

You were lied to. In WV, they were related.

[WVAPPeer]

Blasphemy ---

[PhillyApp1]

I say. PROVE IT!!

OR ELSE

[BayouApp]

Didn't know where else to put this so here goes... Lots and lots of discussion about Coach Clark during this fall camp. Ran into a guy while vacationing down at Litchfield Beach this past week in SC. He saw my App shirt and struck up a conversation about Coach Clark. I told him that "we" (for the most part) really really want him to succeed but were disappointed in last season. He said that he totally got that. Interestingly, he went to high school with Shawn and graduated with his class in WV. He even sat next to him in home room as his last name was Clark as well (no relation I was told). He said that while in high school, they had one of the worst teams in the state while Shawn was there. However, he said that he had never seen anyone work as hard as Shawn did. Coach Clark's dad would have him dig a ditch and fill it back in to get ready for football season. All of this to say that the guy said that he talks with some of Shawn's family from time to time and they know how much he loves App and Coach Moore for giving him a shot. Nothing new necessarily but after talking with this guy, I'm pulling for Coach Clark more than ever.

You were lied to. In WV, they were related.

Isn't everyone?

[PhillyApp1]

So hard for even a guess with so much unknown. Defense was as large issue last year and not sure if it has gotten better.

Granted while in Vegas a couple weeks ago I did have to put a little on us to get over 7 wins. But I also put money on the Cowboys to win the SB, so I'm a bit crazy.

I'm an Eagles fan so take these with a grain of salt. I took the over 10 INT's for DAK in a prob bet and took another that the birds won't make the playoffs. Also took the over for 6.5 wins for APP

Smart man like myself
App and Eagles fan !!

I guess you all cannot be smart in choosing your teams all the time. At least you were smart in one case by choosing App..St.

Well, our EAGLES have been kicking A$$ much like APP.
I am happy with our football season